@earl34 said:

Well said. Obviously, the Browns have injury, play-calling and execution issues but let's not take anything away from the Jags.

Here's a team without a fan base who is the tongue-in-cheek joke of the NFL. They have a good coach and I don't care what anyone says...when Garrard isn't pressured, he can win games. He's a tough SOB and he's got a tremendous running back in MJD. They've had quality wins this year. They are much better than people give them credit for.

You are the only team with injuries.

We are only missing our best pass rusher in Kampman.

I hope you don't count on McCoy being your franchise QB. That kid is softer than an 80 year old man in a cold swimming pool.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I've never seen a homeless guy shit on the street in Myrtle Beach, so I'll take it as being infinitely cleaner than Jacksonville. And that's saying something, since the Dirty Myrtle is...well...dirty.

You're right, Hillis is a good example of that. Maybe the Jags should take a page out of our book, seeing as how Hillis has been more productive than MJD.

Call me when MJD catches up to Hillis, I'll be waiting by the phone.

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you compare Hillis to Mojo? Go ask 32 GM's who they would rather have, including yours.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I watched the game in 80 degree weather on television in Myrtle Beach. Doesn't mean we're prime spot for an NFL franchise.

And I agree, all 19 of your fans were going nuts. You could almost hear them on the television over the sound of Colt McCoy calling line audibles.

Eric isn't our offensive coordinator. You're a dumbass. A head coach calls about as many plays in a game as you have teeth. That is to say, three.

Your team isn't that good, and the guy who you have a shrine of in your signature isn't that good either. He is the perfect example of what happens when you put a goal line back at RB full time...

Myrtle Beach? I've been there a few time........Strip club, minature golf course, waffle house.............wash, rinse, repeat.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'm not making excuses. Keep thinking your Jaguars are a playoff team. I'm a realist, though. And I know why we lost.

Hillis did get shut down on the ground. And how do you fix that? Well you obviously keep running the ball at the exact same hole, with the exact same blocking scheme.

I'll have fun watching the LA Jaguars pick before the Cleveland Browns in next years draft.

We watched a game in 70 degree weather today in Jacksonville Florida in the end of November. Stadium was going nuts. If you were here, you would know this isn't the sign of a team moving to LA.

Ask Hillis how the brick wall named Pot Roast feels when you run into it.

Good game plan though.. We have the worst pass D in the NFL and you guys choose to keep trying to run it up the gut. No wonder Bill fired Eric.

I am here to NOT eat crow. I told you we would stop Hillis on the ground, and we did. He caught the ball well though, but one thing you guys learned that everybody else has learned.

Nobody runs on Pot Roast. The best DT in the NFL.

People putting Hillis on the same level as Mojo makes my stomach turn.

Things I have learned here in the last 5 days:

1. The only thread talking about the Jags game didn't get any real action until Thursday. Jaguar message board starts talking about the next opponent 24 hours after the last game. That is odd to me that on a NFL message board, fans wait this long to start talking about a game.

2. The tarp joke came out. This is actually scientifically 100% guaranteed these days on other peoples message boards.

3. A joke about doing your sister came out. Even though it was from a guy with the word Tampa in his name who doesn't even live in Tampa or Cleveland.

4. A Browns fan actually had the audacity to make fun of the Jaguars colors.

5. If I didn't know any better, I would think they were letting 3-6 teams into the Playoffs these days, just by reading this message board.

6. You have made fun of a potential blackout. Look at it this way, we haven't blacked out a single game this year, and are coming off one of the biggest Hail Mary victories in the history of the NFL, and people still don't want to show up to watch the Browns play. This game has been a bruise on our schedule all year.

7 The hope you guys put in Hillis and McCoy is kind of sad. Hillis is a fullback who will wear down like a set of Wal-Mart tires, and McCoy will look like a QB drafted in the middle of the 3rd round once there is some reasonable game film on him.

@tampadawgs said:

Thats funny......anyways my point was proven, now on to the game

CAn you promise us that when your defense who is know where close to the Jets or Steelers or Saints or Chiefs get there doors blown off by our O-line, Vickers and Hillis you will come back and say Hi, cause every other teams fans they just go away, but since your the only Jags fan that has come on this board...HMMMMMM ( like I said Shitty fan base ) I like your style, your comeback are not that great, but you try...I like that....

I don't think we have a bad fan base. In fact, I think we have a great fan base. We are still a relatively young team, keep that in mind. We are just now starting to get to the point where kids who were born as Jaguar fans are now starting to have the means to purchase season tickets for themselves. We also have one of the best message boards as well, you should check it out.

How did this go from talking about a football game to someone comparing crime statistics to a city he doesn't even live in.

You are probably that guy who wears a Browns jersey to a Bucs/Falcons game. Everyone knows that guy.

@theclevelandsound said:

Brown and Orange go together, shown not only by visual appeal, but by the technical basic color wheel used by most art students and artists.

Turquoise, Black, and Yellow do not, and should not, ever go together. Ever.

It is teal, black, and gold...

The Dolphins are turquoise.

You got black right at least!

@theclevelandsound said:

My only criticism of Jacksonville is the god awful uniforms. The ones u wore last week are your best ones. Otherwise, the color scheme is HORRIBLE.

Wow. Really? A Browns fan making fun of somebody's uniforms. I never thought I would see the day.

@destinfunk said:

Making the trip over from Destin in the Panhandle..My first Browns game in 2 damn years!

Whats good to do in J-ville..I have never been...any any other Browns Board folks going?

According to tampadawgs, you can come to Jacksonville, and nail your sister while watching football in a horrible stadium.

Funny, someone living in Tampa is making fun of someone else' stadium. Raymond James Stadium is a God-awful place to watch a football game, let me tell ya...

Also, Anyone who makes fun of Jacksonville forms their opinion from "visiting here on work". I visit Austin, TX for work all the time, and that city sucks.... think anyone would call me crazy for saying that?

@tampadawgs said:

LOL- your funny never got cocky once, whats Cocky?? me saying that your not going to stop Hillis....Well your not nobody really has, and your defense is not as good as other we have played in the past. So me being a Browns fan on a Browns website saying your not going to stop the Browns best player is cocky well I guess I am then

Yes we are 3-6, yep we are 9 games

Tampa is 6-3

Kansas City 5-4

Cincy 2-7

Altanta 7-2

NY 7-2

New England 7-2

New Orleans, Pissburg, Balt all 6-3

So tell me how would the Jags do with that ???? We are 3-6 and we are who we are

See I do not hate on the Jags, I like the Jags I have gone to plenty of there games, shitty Statuim Sorry it really is, but I like them, I just think being a Browns fan again on a Browns website the Browns take down the Jags, I know its Crazy thinking that a Browns fan thinks his team is going to win.....

and Sorry been to plenty of NFL games all over and the Jags have really nice fans, even when they lose there happy go lucky, but thats the area, they marry there sisters in Jax, sorry true there all the time, and your crime rate holy Sh#$!!!! Hire some Police please!!!!!

sorry anyways

Browns win 24-14...Jags hold Hillis to 115 and 2 tds......

What has anybody said in here for you to feel the need for a personal attack on somebody's city? There is always one of you on every teams message board. I come in peace trying to talk some football, and there is always one person who can't resist talking about tarps.

Bad stadium? Marrying sisters? Have you ever really even been to Jacksonville?

Are you really in a position to be making fun of someone else' city?

@theclevelandsound said:

Just don't tell us you are stopping Hillis. Because you aren't. Otherwise I agree with you completely.

What does "Stopping" mean?

We hold him under 100 yards. I will stand behind that comment, and will come back for some crow if I am wrong.

@tampadawgs said:

I love when other fans come here and say, well our defense can play the run pretty well and think they can stop Hillis...

I know this much all the other runningbacks in the league are not 250lbs and runs like Hillis, you will not stop him sorry....Then again we might not stop Jones-Drew

As for you selling out every game, what I think is funny is your fan base is so bad that they cover most of the top part of your statuim with tarp...The only time you have a sellout is when the Florida-Georgia game is played there....Please dont try to Bul$shi# me about the Jags fan base, I live in Florida and see all the time. Now I will say Jags fans are pretty cool not a bunch a pricks.....

Jags are no joke, but Browns win

24-14

First of all, the Jags stadium still holds 67,164 WITH the tarps on. That is more than 11 other stadiums in the NFL, including teams as popular as the Steelers, Colts, and Bears.

The stadium was remodeled in order to host the Jaguars as well as the annual Florida/Georgia game, and ACC Championship game (when it was here).

Jacksonville has about 1.3 million people, and a stadium that holds 85,000 people was not a feasible option for us, or any city with that ratio.

Bottom line...you guys are 3-6, so I wouldn't be too cocky about going on the road and getting a victory. We play against self proclaimed "Best RB's in the NFL" every week. This week will be no different.

Both of our teams will not make the playoffs, so just enjoy the game, and be original for once, and not make unnecessary tarp jokes when it really isn't necessary.

@theclevelandsound said:

You have made the same mistake the Patriots, Ravens, and Jets fans have made. Those are the top 3 rush defenses in the league. And Hillis rushed a total of 415 yards against them.

You aren't stopping Hillis. Face this as a certainty. End of discussion.

I like your other points though. I have watched Knighton. He is a stud. Whats his nickname again?

Pot Roast

Hi. Jags fan here.

I have to tell you, most teams have the luxury of going through their schedule at the beginning of the year, and checking off automatic wins. The Jaguars have NEVER had that luxury as long as I have been a fan. We have a knack to compete with the best teams in the NFL through the entire game, and lay an egg against any teams we are supposed to beat.

With that said... now onto my thoughts....

1. I haven't watched much film on you guys, but from what I hear, Hillis is having a pretty good year. We held Foster to 50 something yards yesterday, and he is supposedly one of the top RB's in the league. We contained Chris Johnson to under 100 yards rushing (until he broke off a big on in garbage time when the game was already out of reach). So basically, the Jags are good at stopping the run when they have to.

2. We have absolutely no pass rush. In fact, it is embarrassing. QB's usually have time to make a sandwich behind their offensive lines when playing us, which exposes our already terrible secondary. Aaron Kampman was just starting to make our pass rush respectable, then he tore his ACL in practice last week. Not good. The Jags have been hexed at the DE position since Tony Brackens retired.

3. Our defensive tackles are the highlight of our defense. Terrance Knighton is an absolute beast and is basically unmovable, and frequently demands double teams. Our rookie DT Alualu has shown signs of being potentially great, but still has a lot to learn.

Now onto the offense:

1. David Garrard is Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde. You don't know which guy you are going to get week to week. People in Jacksonville (me included) are usually calling for his head every week, and we all know we will be drafting a franchise QB next year in the draft. Until then, we are stuck with Garrard (or Garbage as I like to call him).

He has played lights out the last two games (Dallas & Houston). These are two TERRIBLE pass D's, so in my eyes, he just did what he was supposed to do.

Garrard's favorite target is TE Marcedes Lewis, who in my opinion is a top 3 TE in the NFL. Mike Thomas is slowly emerging as the Jaguars #1 receiver. He is reliable, and knows how to get open. I have never been a Sims-Walker guy.. Most people around here love him, but he doesn't have the ability to create separation like a #1 should, and has dropped some crucial passes this year.

2. Mojo......well, he is Mojo.....

3. Our 2nd year left tackle Eugene Monroe is really starting to come around, and has been very good in pass blocking, but still lacks run blocking. When you have to go against Freeney and M. Williams twice a year, naturally, you are going to get better... and I believe he is going to be a staple of our O-line for the next decade.

4. Special teams has been pretty decent. Deji Karim is a quick little guy and is capable of taking it to the house every time he touches the ball. Kasim Osgood is a very good STer, and always seems to be the first one down the field. Our punter is also Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. Scobee is coming off two misses yesterday (one BAD one), so I am a little concerned about his confidence entering Sundays game.

As a Jaguars fan, I expect the Jags to stop Hillis, and make Colt beat us with his arm. If we lose because McCoy throws for 300 and 3TD's, then I will leave the stadium not being upset, because with our current personnel, that game plan gives us the best chance to win in my eyes.

Good luck this Sunday, and lets hope for a NO INJURY game... God knows we have had enough of them.