@wrrebel said:

Yeah he seemed pretty washed up last year.

The only way it would makes sense is if he signed a contract like bobby engram did last year and competed for a spot. Which he obviously won't.

Let's face it we have to get better at wr. If we had any good wrs last year we would have won 3 or 4 more games. All our wrs are number 3s. They are slow. All I keep hearing is we won't be very active in free agency. I don't think you can count on a rookie to make a huge impact. I hope we at least sign a veteren wr.

I'm not so sure WR is such a huge position of need. The system last year wasn't what I would call WR friednly and WR's often need a few years to adjust and truly come into their own. We saw flashes of Robiskie looking like a quality NFL WR towards the end of last season.

This team needs D Linemen. D linemen and more D linemen. The cupboard is completely bare. I'd draft a D linemen in the first two rounds and hopefully sign a couple. Justin Bannan is one I'd look at in FA. Also Mike Patterson from the Eagles.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

well The Guy has Raped nobody or he would be LOCKED up. Thats bottom line.

You don't know this anymore than I know he did do it..... It's simply a case where there were the facts were not there for the DA to charge him and take him to trial.

The bottom line is that this guy is not a quality human being, regardless how he was raised.

@ballpeen said:

I agree. I am thinking LG.

Maybe not this year....I doubt the guy is ready to start this early in his career.

Same here...I read where he didn't start playing football until his Junior year in High school? They may be thinking that his upside is huge and will want to groom him for awhile.

Not sure where guys on this board are thinking Steinbach is an elite Guard. Maybe 4 or 5 years ago this was true. He's 30 and in the twilight of his career now.

nmills said:

1. CB

2. Safety

2. RB

3. OL

3. QB

5. Safety

6. WR

6. DE

It looks like to me they drafted more for need than BPA. Every position they said they wanted to address they addressed. I highly dought the BPA just happend to be the position we needed at every pick. Even with that said though I really like how our draft turned out

Hardesty had to be the BPA.....That was not a position of need....At least not compared to the Dline, RT and WR position.

Even at safety you still had one of your guys there in Burnett.

Unless Heckert thinks Davis is not going to be here and has doubts about Hillis. I love Peyton Hillis and think he could be the perfect back for the weather in Cleveland.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

I love the new direction this team is going in: Smash mouth football! To me, it's the only way to play. Look at the greatest defenses of all time: 70s Steelers, 86 Bears, 2000s Ravens, what do they all have in common? They all beat the living crap out of offenses. Nobody wanted to play these guys and they each have some of the hitters of all time. This is where I want Cleveland to be. I want to be a team that people don't want to play because they are full of hitters. With new additions like Haden, Ward, Hillis, and Hardesty, there is no doubt in my mind that we are heading towards a smash mouth defense and grind it out offense. I am absolutely pumped for this season and beyond. Who's with me?

A smash mouth D starts with the line and this current line is old or in trouble with the law and not one to get excited about.

Coleman, Smith and Rogers have been in the league, 9 years, 10 years and 11 years. Wow! Mosely and Rubin are really going to have to step up.

The Browns need to get younger and more talented there. This position was not addressed at all which also surprised me.

Let's take anotther RB instead!

Hate to rain on your parade...But it's the truth.

@atenears said:

Wow, good point. I guess I was just under the impression he was the savior on the Right side, hadn't thought of Steinbach's replacement.

He might be the RG...I have no idea. I haven't heard.

I just know that Mangini didn't seem overly excited about Steinbach and Lauvao is a LG and LT

@vdogrowz said:

There were no more RB's left on the board in the class of Hardesty, and he would not have lasted until our 71st pick. After Hardesty, there were no RB's taken in Rd 3, only one (McKnight) picked in the middle of Rd 4, and no RB's selected in Rd 5. Trading up for Hardesty was a good move.

Sure, if Rb was a bigger need than Safety, or ILB or WR or DT/DE.

Harrison Hillis and Davis are all young, capable RB's.

The Browns starting tackles are over 30 and the starting NG is now in trouble with the law. Fujita, Bowen and Barton are 30 years old and older and The safeties are terribly below average. one of your ILB's is coming off a season in which he was out all year.

Yet we take a RB? I think it's almost shocking

nmills said:

he signed with Chicago, how bout Jarret Brown lets turn him into a WR

I found his 40....4.53

His vertical really isn't great as far as NFL WR's go....But I still like your thinking. A lot.

nmills said:

he signed with Chicago, how bout Jarret Brown lets turn him into a WR

Wow....I love that thinking! I'm pissed I didn't think of it! lol!

What was his 40 time?

Sign Freddie Barnes and bring him in.

This would be an obvious pick up for the Browns

@gips said:

Lauvao has mangini's fingerprints all over him and i believe he will be our new RG this guy is way underestimated..

Has there been anything said about which side he will play on? I figured he was more than likely Steinbach's replacement.

I got the feeling last year that Mangini wasn't a fan of Eric....Didn't like his lack of weight.

@nw-ohio-brownie said:

Mays can't cover anybody and in this league that is bad news. He's Cato June: a college safety that translates to a LB in the pros.

This is actually the only knock on Ward. Many doubt he has any cover skills.

But he's a fearless stick that will be very good against the run.....And I have to believe that is what Mangini was looking for.

Are teams that worried about Blount being a cancer? This kid can play. He is too talented not to get drafted. There are some other factors going on besides his past mishaps at OU

I don't think the Browns need to give him a shot. They already have Peyton Hillis, and I love Hillis.

nmills said:

I like Hardesty but I agree with you there, would have rather had Burnett. We could of still picked up Dixon, Dwyer, still can get Blount or we could've traded a 5th for Lendale White or Leon Washington.

Thanks....I think you are right on!!

As I sat there today when Hardesty was chosen my jaw dropped. Really? Another RB? With so many on the board yet?

I love Ward and will say again, had the Browns taking Morgan Burnette instead of Hardesty we could have seen these two play side by side for a long time. Ward is the hitter and while Burnett can hit too, He is more interested in going for the ball.

Ward and Burnett could have put a lot of fear into NFL WR's.

I hate this pick. A striaght ahead runner who runs too high.

This team needs to fill so many holes. RB was not one of them. Especially after picking up Hillis from Denver.

Harrison, Davis, Hillis and we draft another RB? Makes no sense to me at all.

Morgan Burnett was there, as was Pat Angerer. Two guys that would've helped much more than yet another RB.

I love Burnette. A big Safety that can play either Free or Strong.

9-7.

I won't be completely unhappy with 8-8 but I expect 9-7 with that schedule.

@manbearpig said:

what makes my posts less valid than others? the browns can't tackle, we have seen that! I want to know what they are doing. delete this, I am starting to think that you are browns elitists now. I love my team and I love Cleveland but I wont tollerate assholes.

Wow....That isn't only too emotional, That's embarrassing.

Greetings from an old 88Mike! (64Charlie)

Glad you are on board.

Aloysius said:

I think Blount getting into trouble was about new HC Chip Kelly telling his star player he couldn't slack off. Not great news, but I don't think it's a big deal.

With Jeremiah Johnson gone, Blount's in line to get a ton of carries. Hopefully, we'll see more performances like this one.

Even if Harrison and Davis impress this year, I'd love to have Blount come in and close out games for us. Worn out defenders won't be able to bring this guy down.

It was more than that Aloy. The guy admitted he quit going to class and wasn't working out. That from Blounts own lips.

That is much more than a simple "Don't slack off".

I think he's a complete stud as well. But I don't think he'd ever be considered by Mangini. I don't see him being the high character and motivated player that Mangini wants.