@dtbh said:

Corey Williams and Braylon Edwards for Julius Peppers and Muhsin Muhammed.

I know it's more of a fantasy, Madden trade but they'd finally get a good receiver opposite Smith, they'd get Williams and we'd get Peppers to play in a 3-4 like he wants to. We'd also get a veteren WR while we groom our rookies and draft another at some point.

We could even throw in a draft pick to make it happen. We could even ship them one of our extra QB's.

I do not know the logistics of the contracts however.

Although I wouldn't mind this trade in our offense as the #2 Edwards would be a waste. Jake has a little to much tunnel vision towards Smith.

@breeze said:

yea i would say it to your face..i say it to panthers fans all the time. The browns have a better city, fan base, and history then the panthers will ever have as a franchise. Whats your next trade proposal? Dwayne Jarrett and Dante Wesley for Braylon Edwards?

If your dumb enough to take it, sure. Both of those guys you mention are barely worth a roster spot, I will admit that, this is why I didn't mention them. Where Rosario has the talent to be a good starter and has shown that. He is just in the wrong system sounds a lot like the guy I started this thread about. Now if you want to talk football I'd be more then willing to continue this conversation. But if you want to insult a fine organization and city then go ahead but I am not here to do the same to yours.

@breeze said:

this is what bothers me about Panthers fans...I'm from Charlotte and i hear stupid crap like this all the time. You are overrating Rosario way too much. This is just another example of a Panthers fan who lacks football knowledge. Why the hell would we trade a starter who would benefit your team immediatly for a backup TE and a backup RB who just got drafted? Go back to Bank of America Stadium and eat your cheese and drink your wine douchebag

For the record Rosario will be a starter at the next passing team he gets on. With Smith on this team he is Jakes 1st, 2nd, and 3rd read. He will floourish in the 1st offense that uses his athleticism regularly in the passing game. And we are talking about a guy many of your own fans have stated that he doesn't fit your scheme. I have even heard a couple people talking about just cutting him outright. Then you come on here acting like you know everything insulting someone who only wanted to get a browns fans perspective. This is the reason I can't stand these forums everyone who post knows they are doing it so anonymously so they think they can be assholes without any repercussions. Cause I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Go back to watching your 4-12 bottom feeder team that your so proud of.

I started at Clemson the year Davis did so I watched every game of this guy. He is highly underrated. I question his intelligence though but only because he stayed at Clemson last year even when they lost almost there entire starting Oline to graduation. Can't really blame a guy for being loyal but I saw the writing on the wall. His play and stats diminished because of our poor line play not because of his lack of talent. I really think you guys got a good one in davis.

How bout Rasario and a 5th and an optional 4th if he starts at least 14 games?

Hey guys as you can tell by my screen name I am a Panthers Fan and wanted to join this board to give you my 2 cents on a possible Williams trade.

First off I like his potential but its just that potential. We don't know how that injury if is going to effect him long term or if can transition back into the 4-3. So what would you guys want out of him? As far as players we have let me give you some highlights of some of the guys we are likely going to want to trade.

TE Dante Rosario- Positives: This guy has tremendous athletic ability. Can really stretch the field. Makes big plays at big times (see Week 1 last year Vs. Chargers). That game because Steve Smith was suspended Rosario was Jakes go-to guy catching 7 passes for 96 yards and the game winning at the buzzer TD. He once again was the go-to guy last Night and he made some big playes. Negatives: Inconsistent, after Smith came back and Jake started throwing to him the most Rosario didn't get targeted as much and King is the better run blocker so he saw most of the action at TE the rest of the season.

HB Mike Goodson (Rookie)- Postives: Little Spark Plug. This guy is electric. Week 1 this preseason he showed us his awesome speed and agility. So much so that we are going to try and work him in the slot to hopeful have our own Wes Welker. And this last week he showed his ability to take it up inside. I think he was our best pick in this draft. But as you know we are stacked at RB and thin at DT so I think he would be tradeable but I would regret it. Negatives: Game 1 he fumbled twice but one shouldn't really be a fumble except according to the NFL the back of the hand is not considered a part of the body. But I think the Coachs addressed that this week in practice because in week 2 he ran inside more often and didn't fumble.

We also have James Anderson and Landon Johnson (maybe even Connor if Beason isn't out for long) at LB. Sorry we are very thin at OLine and DLine. We also have some very good Returners (Great Speed) and we wont keep them all.