@mangini4life said:

lets just say if i was not a jets fan, i would be wearing a browns jersey right now,

STFU. Its p**sies like you that make Jets fans look like pansies.

@believelandbrown said:

I can tell you're from Pittspuke from your horrible attempts at insults and redneck demeanor.

Go away.

+1............I hate those redneck Pitts fans almost as much as the backwoods Patriot fans. GTF out of here!

.........although I do agree with what, in his redneck way, is trying to say. That is: Mangini S***S! period.

@mangini4life said:

are you arguing with me on my "own" opinion?

NO! you have your opinion, and I have mine. Relax!

@mangini4life said:

in a 4-12 season when the steelers should have destroyed us? just pass me that shit your smoking cuz i havent had a good nights sleep in days

Bud........go hang out at : http://jetsinsider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27 you will feel better!

@mangini4life said:

i know, thats why i want parcells.

DUDE, PARCELLS IS NOT THE ANSWER, HC OR GM. Get Over It!

@mangini4life said:

mangini destroyed big ben in the season when jets were 4-12, check jets record 2007

19-16 is not so much destroyed. Check last time Jets WON in pennsylvania, then come back and talk.

@mangini4life said:

where have i heard that before?

yeh, I know. It's sad,.......BUT we are NOT SO FAR OFF AS YOU THINK.

@mangini4life said:

this team is built to win now, we have a lot of older veterans in their prime

Old as in who? Faneca......eh. Favre? ..He's GONE, hopefully. Jones? RB position is easy to fill. Coles? ..Yeh he's up there but ef that BI**hy B**tch. We are young but need LB support no matter what type coach we get, 3-4, or 4-3, and of course need secondary hep, bad. We be alright. Mark my words.

@socalbrownsfan said:

Uh oh, not on the job training yet again, where have I heard this about a new Browns coaching hire?

funny.........umm,..all your HC's since re-estabishment?

@mangini4life said:

keep telling yourself that, watever helps you sleep better

i know i wont be getting much sleep until i find if woody had stolen parcells away from the dolphags

F**K Parcells, young one. Been there......Done that. You want him for 2-3 years and leave? I want a long term, building coach ala Cower, but NOT COWER. I want consistency and you wont get that with Parcells. 1-2 maybe 3 and GONE!!! And I sleep FINE. Its all part of being a J-E-T-S Fane! Gotta LOVE IT!

@mangini4life said:

read the whole post, i'm a jets fan, not a browns fan

Sorry my Brother! We all have our own opinions on our Jets. Its part of life being a Jets fan, as you know. We'll get through it,..................................................................SOMEDAY!!! Keep your head up, my man!

@mangini4life said:

Eric Mangini Says Goodbye to His Players

Published: 12-29-08

By Eric Allen

Senior Managing Editor

Article Permalink: http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/s...-to-his-players

Moments after Eric Mangini addressed the New York Jets a final time this morning, the players addressed the departure of their former head coach.

“It’s a level of disappointment,” said veteran LG Alan Faneca. “You feel like you ended the season bad and then this happens. You feel like you let him down.”

In two of Mangini’s three seasons, the Jets finished with a winning record. But they stumbled badly down the stretch in '08, cooling off in December as they went from playoff lock to on the outside looking in.

“That’s the NFL. The margin for error is so slim. One or two plays and we’re right there in the playoffs,” said safety Abe Elam.

Woody Johnson has set a high bar for his team and this was a tough move he felt he had to make. The Jets failed to obtain playoff entry for a second consecutive season and that hadn’t happened since the NFL approved Johnson's purchase of the franchise on Jan. 18, 2000.

After winning eight of their first 11 contests, the Jets did not meet their own expectations as they lost four of five. There was just no brake to the slide and Johnson and general manager Mike Tannenbaum made a decision to part ways with Mangini late Sunday night.

“We had a disappointing season based on the personnel and the guys we had in here," said wide receiver Laveranues Coles. "We had a great coaching staff also that gave us a lot of opportunities. You can’t put all the blame on the head coach or the coaching staff. I think a lot of that blame falls on the locker room and it starts with me first.”

There were no celebrations today at the Atlantic Health Training Center in Florham Park, N.J. Johnson and Tannenbaum praised Mangini for his efforts and thanked him for what he has done for the organization. The players took the high road as well, placing blame on themselves for a lack of execution.

“With the way that we performed with everything on the line, I knew we were doing him in,” said a visibly dejected Jerricho Cotchery. “It comes down to making plays in December and beating the man across from you.”

The Jets just lost too many battles and Mangini lost his job as a result. Cotchery called the dismissal “the toughest thing” he’s gone through in his career. He respected Mangini for giving him a chance on the football field and he knew him unlike many did away from it.

“Getting to know him as a family man, as a dad, as a husband to his wife, I saw the kind of guy he is and I’m really glad I got the chance to get to know him,” J-Co said. “He’s a really good guy. He’s taught me a lot about football and life.”

Mangini, often a stoic presence on the sideline, had a soft side that most never got the chance to see. He was a complex figure, fiercely guarded and protective of his team and a man who worked tirelessly. He not only wanted to win football games in the worst way, but he gushed about his family and took on a great community responsibility.

Extremely tough on his players in the early stages of ’06, the then-35-year-old set a tone of accountability. Even though he would lighten up along the way with shortened practices and even the use of the indoor fieldhouse this season, there will always be the memory of Brett Favre running a penalty lap at a Hofstra training camp practice.

“When he was being tough on us, it wasn’t because he wanted to be a butt, but it was because he wanted to get the best out of us and he wanted to win,” Coles said. “Him relaying that message and letting the guys know he truly cared about us was really important.”

The hope Johnson and Tannenbaum share is that they’ll find a replacement who will build off Mangini’s foundation. There is talent here and the Jets will find a good mind to lead them in 2009.

“Whoever they bring in, I know we definitely have a lot of good pieces in place as far as personnel to really have some success,” said veteran RT Damien Woody. “I trust that Woody and Mike will be thorough in their search and bring in the right guy so they can take advantage of everything that’s in place already.”

The final game of the Mangini era was a 24-17 loss to Miami at the Meadowlands. The Dolphins claimed the AFC East with the victory as they completed a dramatic turnaround from worst to first. But the Green & White never quit on Mangini.

On their final play from scrimmage and 96 yards away from the end zone, they attempted to pull out a miracle with a bunch of laterals. If you were at practice over the past three years, you know it was a play practiced by Mangini because he prepared his guys for every possible situation.

“We fought all the way until the last play,” Coles said. “When a team quits, you don’t have that at the end of a ballgame.”

The Jets and Eric Mangini parted ways today. They had a successful relationship but perhaps they’ll both grow more now that they're apart from each other.

“I have always believed things will work out the way they’re supposed to,” said team MVP Thomas Jones. “I think Eric will wind up in a place he’s supposed to end up and I think the team will go in a direction it’s supposed to go. I think everything happens for a reason.”

That's so nice a piece of writing. WHAT DO EXPECT CLASSY PLAYERS TO SAY ABOUT THEIR EX-HEAD COACH? They are not going to go out and bash him. They still respect him of course, but Im pretty sure they are ready to MOVE ON from this mold.

@mangini4life said:

lets see, tannenbaum was a lawyer by profession, was a contract lawyer all his life and all of a sudden becomes a talent evaluater, coincidently when mangini came over? yeah ok

Well it looks as if it has panned off, in a good way. 7 pro Bowlers this year? Who's your GM and how many are the Browns sending to the Pro Bowl again???

RIGHT..................... two lonely soles.

Plus, as of now we have a souting director named Terry Bradway who loves doing what he does, and is the talent evaluator. Mike T is the numbers guru., Get your facts straight.

@earl34 said:

My point EXACTLY. NY writers and fans will spin it anyway that they want to legitimize his scapegoating.

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@earl34 said:

Dude...go to Gate D, please. In case you didn't know your own team (and I'm sure you don't) Mike Tannenbaum has absolutely no scouting experience (as his choice of Favre demonstrates). Eric Mangini had more of a say in all of those pickups than any of the crap that you spew. Why the hell should we listen to the coach's EX-team? That's like listening to your girlfriend's EX-boyfriend. His opinion is biased and so is yours.

Dude, scouting refers to pre-draft agenda, which is Terry Bradway's job with the Jets. I know my team, have season tickets, go to atleast 4-5 home games a year, have input from close ties to the team, etc. You cant tell me that Jones would have 15td's with Pennington under center this past year. GROW THE F UP. Yes Farve S**KED the last 5-6 games but he was the right choice for THIS YEAR, but it didnt work out, and niether would have CHAD who would have been let go after this season anyhow. Mike T did a great job although we fell short of the playoffs/ Lets see, since Woody bought the team in 2000 we made playoffs how many times? 4, YES 4 and you guys what? 1..........whats that.......1?

And............haha......you only wish you had a gate D, which is right near my section

@darubes said:

FoxSports just had their first mock draft on the computer this morning and

at #5 they have the Browns taking none other than....................Malcom Jenkins.

This was before Mangini was confirmed.

Personally, I would rather see a pass rusher. It doesn't matter WHO you have at

corner if you don't have a pass rush.

Hey guys, I have many Browns fans as friends and getting Mangini will set you back another 3-5 years from anything as he is set in his ways and stubborn. He lost his team in NY with the way he treated players and he will to you too. I hope well for you guys as I dont dislike the Browns, but I think your team should have looked hard at other available coaches. Maybe Im wrong.

@mangini4life said:

I know a lot of jets fan might tell you guys bad things about mangini, but they are mostly clueless. mangini took herm edwards no talent soft pussies and turn the team into a winner. we had 1 prowbowler in 2006, 0 in 2007 and 7 in 2008, mangini is a hardass like parcell and takes no excuses from anyone, and whoever doesn't fit his mold will find himself on the outside looking in. mangini is a hard working intense guy and he is all bussiness all the time. you will see him turn primadonnas like winslow jr and turn them into smart, hardworking, character players.

Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.

1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).

2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.

3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.

Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.

Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.

Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.

While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.

Good for you guys! Another 3 years of no game adjustments at half time and I just cant wait to see if he adds a pass rush.

Oh yeh.........and you got yourself another fat a** that will walk the sidelines with ZERO emotion or FIRE.

@ytownbrownsbacker said:

You are sure that the FO put 7 guys into the pro bowl? The coaching staff didn't have anything to do with it? I'm sure that lousy HC who brought them to the team didn't have anything to do with it?

LMFAO

Of course I am sure. Same coaching staff and game plans as last year where T. Jones (PB) only had 1 TD, yet behind a re-vamped OL (That the FO signed, D. Woody and A. Faneca, (PB) he had 15TD's and 1300 rushing. AND The addition of Farve (PB), whom was brought in by the FO, made opposing DF's respect the pass for once, opening up the running game.

The FO brought in a legit NT in K. Jenkins (PB) who stuffed the run.

The coaching staff especially on DF, which is where Mangina supposedly excels, stunk all year. I think Mike Tannenbaum did a great job this year and it had to be hard for him to fire his buddy, but he put business first.

Masters said:

The same owner who wasn't willing to actually meet with Cowher, as being reported now? The same owner who partly went out and got Favre so not to be second fiddle in the NY media to the Giants? The owner who has a lawyer as his GM?

I ain't saying Lerner is any better, but come on dude.

If you had a qb in Pennington comming off many surgeries, a year left on contract, soft arm, playing bad (hardly beating back-ups in practice as well) and Farve becomes available comming off a great year, I could see where the decision was made. Dont get me wrong...I wasnt happy with the Farve signing and dont think he should be in the Pro Bowl, BUT this FO has put like 7 of THEIR guys in the PB this year, not too bad. And Mike T is a cap guru as GM. Cower only wanted to speak directly to Woody to tell him NO, not to negotiate a HC position.