Zombo said:

Ummmm .... 'cause it's a BROWNS board?

Zombo

Hmm... So you are saying that Browns fans lack class?

naa, I doubt that is what you are saying. You are just assuming-- and showing your ignorance in doing so.

It is because there are SOME here that are so ignorant they don't understand that football is JUST A GAME. And ANYONE that gets hurt playing a GAME, has to suffer with those injuries the REST OF THEIR LIFE.

Are you really that dense to not understand that? or that immature to not be able to separate the two?

And yes, I call people out on my "home" Steelers board for doing the same.

@atenears said:

I'm really sorry Preacher, but did you see how many freaking straps they used to secure Big Gay to that backboard? Wholly shit, I don't think I've been that entertained since the Lilliputians strapped ole Gulliver down. Anyhow Thumbs up to you buddy, I hope you had a chance to wipe away that tear and hug those love ones around you when you saw the thumbs up ... I know I did.

Tell you what. The next time your mother father, son, daughter, brother, sister, is strapped to a board... make sure to laugh at the too.

I am aghast at this board right now. I understand rivalries. But what I don't understand is people acting like utter trash. And this... is acting like utter trash. While your buddies here might think you are funny, it shows how pathetic your world view really is.

But I keep forgetting. . . I am talking to a guy that still thinks he is a grade school bully. . . trying to meet others on the playground for a fight.

Simply no class. No one that makes fun of injuries has class. Period.

This goes beyond football. You are simply a damaged human being. I feel sad for you. But not sad enough to keep up any discussion with you.

Stay classy-- and see if you can find any more steeler fans to fight on a playground.. there are some other boards you can troll for it.

I also remember why I stopped posting here. There is no need to be associated with people that has this shallow a view of other people.

Atewhatever...

I have come to the conclusion. . . That you are a dispicable human being. I have never seen some experience schadenfreude to your level over an injury to another human being.

I really hope this is just an "internet personality." My Goodness. Grow up.

To the rest on this board. . . dang, that was a good hard hit. It is hits that which allows a defense to start thinking "you know, if we can get to the QB like that a few times a game... we could be something."

@dtbh said:

You actually believe that, huh, Preach?

No. They're frontrunners, just like Yankees and Red Sox fans. Prolonged success creates a fan base full of frontrunners. It's been evidenced time and time again. Sure, the Browns had them in their breif periods of success.

You actually have yourself convinced that the fact that the Steelers are the winningest team in the NFL for the past 16 or so years, and have GROWN to probably the biggest fan base reaching their pinnacle in 2005 when they lead the NFL in merchandise sales (gee, wonder why?), are completely unrelated? I know you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

There is a certain group of human population that don't know it's wrong to go through their lives just picking the winningest teams in each sport to support. In baseball, they're a mix between Yankee/Red Sox. In basketball, they're a mix between Celtics/Lakers. In football, it's Steelers/Cowboys. Or am I mistaken, and Dallas had a 'misplacement of their population'?

Displacement from the Mills. Haha.

May I suggest you do a little study on what happened to Pittsburgh in the early 80's. Yes, Litteraly 300,000 people moved away. Do we have bandwagon fans? Yep. But honestly, our team isn't a "sexy" team. They aren't pimped by ESPN, the NFL, etc. etc. The teams that get all the bandwagon fans are Dallas, the Pats,* and teams that are pimped for a couple years such as the Bengals a few years ago, San Diego, etc. etc.

Like I said, yes, there are bandwagon fans for the Steelers. However, most of those fans disappear with one bad season. The last two seasons have seen those fans disappear for us.

Kellen Winslow Jr. said:

Ditto! People will be jumping ship as if they were on the Titanic! If/when the steAlers become uncompetitive they would lose half of their fan base because half of their fan base are front running assholes that live in Ohio.

Uh.. no.

In truth, the Steelers and the Browns fan base is about the exact same (which is part of the reason for such the deep-seated dislike, familiarity breeds contempt). We were very uncompetitive in the 80's AND the city of Pittsburgh lost about half its residents as the mills and mines closed down. Those fans moved throughout the country. It would have been very easy to shift allegiance to the Dolphins in the 80's (especially with Marino as QB, a home-town boy of sorts), San Francisco (Joe Montana was a home-town boy of sorts as well) or even Chicago (who played the type of defense Steelers fans were accustomed to) among others. However, they remained loyal Steelers fans, which is why this team "travels" so well, It isn't really the fans that travel everywhere, but the displaced Pittsburgher's that show up to all the games.

There is a lot of smack between these two teams with a lot of history. However, this particular line, really has very little truth to it. Are there some bandwagon fans? Sure. Just like there were some bandwagon fans for the Browns at the beginning of this year.

********* However, I really don't understand the fascination with being an ass on an opponents fan-board. Come on people. You're no longer in grade school.

It's quite simple in my opinion.

1. Brady is hurt. Period. It is his index finger of his throwing hand, is it not? That is the last finger on the ball when you throw it, and creates a lot of control. There is NO way to judge BQ if he is injured.

2. Yes, you DO need to let a rookie (this is his first year on the field, so in essence, he is a rookie) play through his problems and mistakes. This year is over for the Browns. SO you let BQ try to figure out how to play through injuries, how to deal with INT's etc.

3. IMO he was probably pulled out because the finger was getting too painful. However, I don't have anything to place that on except common sense.

4. If RAC did pull him for his play, it is proof positive of an internal civil war in the organization. That is not a good sign. Why? Because if you all REALLY want Cowher, he won't go NEAR that type of situation. He will want full control of the players and who does and does not play. Also, Cowher does not value QB's like many others do.

So I am watching ESPN, and they show the interview with Quinn after the game. He said that "It is not the receivers fault when they don't catch the ball, it is my fault. When they drop the ball, it means I didn't get it them right." (or something close to that).

It reminds me of Ben blaming himself times when the O line completely blew games. It is the sign of a true leader.

As a Steelers fan, of course I hope the guy chokes completely.

As a fan of football, I have to say that while it is WAY too early to say anything about the kid on the field, that kind of attitude sure does say a lot about him in the locker room. If he has the skills, he will be a very good leader.

Foolish.

You absolutely DO NOT KEEP him.

Why? Because if Quinn hits a rough spot in his development (and he will, he is human and the Browns don't cheat a la the Patriots*) you don't want someone calling for D.A. to come back in. That is why you let him go, recover the cap space, and then go find a decent journeyman QB for a backup. If you already have that guy in Dorsey, then draft a Qb in the 6th or 7th round to come in and get pounded by the D during practice.

At this point, through good or bad, up or down, you keep B.Q. on the field unless he is injured or the team gives up on him.

The Browns wouldn't be able to control him because the Browns don't have a strong enough leadership on the team yet. I don't even think the Steelers could control him... Patriots? Maybe.

Just jumping on to say hi...

and a heck of a nice new forum. I really like it.

Yes.. I know.. My Steelers lost last Sunday. Hey, I never expected us to go 15-1... or even 14-2. Its going to be a dog fight...

Anyways...

God bless....

EDIT : Dang... Everyone's post count reset too!

Interesting!