@sj_browns said:

You're looking at this from an uneducated fans perspective, not from a football perspective. GMs and coaches will look deeper into bqs situation and realize the right side of his oline is weak and he has to rely on a bunch of rookies and backups for weapons on offense. They'll also see he has things to improve on, but all inexperienced qbs do. Even if a team tries to lowball the Browns, they're not going to accept a 4rth for bq when he hasn't even had a fair shot. BQ hasn't even played a full 16 games yet. I think the Browns will give BQ a fair shot and go from there. Also, can you stop talking to us as if we work for the Browns and we have the ability to trade quinn? We're just fans dude.

Whoa!

Let's take a step back and a deep breath. I kinda had the feeling that I wasn't communicating with the Browns front office by the mere fact that someone posted that they'd deal Quinn for...what was it? A bag of balls and some knee pads? Or was it the presence of the emoticons? Never mind.

Look, if there has been some misunderstanding concerning one of my posts, let me be the first to apologize. It was not my intent to come off in the manner with which you perceived.

I believe that you may have responded to my initial post with something to the effect of: What? Trade Brady Quinn for merely a 4th rounder?

To which I thought I replied by asking you to place a value on him based upon what we know today. Now, if you believe that he's worth more than a 4th round pick (which is what I suspect), then that's fine. I just wanted to see how Browns fans valued him - not try to broker some message board internet trade agreement to forward to Billy Devaney (Rams GM).

I fully realize that many Browns fans feel that Quinn may not have had a full hearing in terms of his capabilities. But that hasn't stopped the media (or even this message board) from suggesting he could get dealt or that a new QB could come in to replace him. I'm just getting into a conversation that's been going on for much of the season. I came onto this board thinking that there were some intelligent Browns fans/bloggers who might have an idea of how the organization operates and whether or not they'd consider deals for Quinn. If so, what would they suspect the price would be?

No big deal, though. Good luck fellas.

@bob806 said:

I think they're going to hang onto Quinn. In today's NFL, there simply isn't an abundance of great QB play, so I think BQ will be an "above average" QB, but never a star QB.

You've got P Manning, Brees, T Brady, Rivers, Favre, Warner, & probably Big Ben as top tier QBs. There are a few young ones that show promise, but basically even guys we thought were going to be stars (ie: Carson Palmer, Vince Young), haven't exactly lit the world on fire.

If I were you, I would be thinking defense in the draft, that's what I'm hoping for here. If you miss on that high-profile QB draft pick, you're toast as a franchise. The Rams have given up a ton of points...is Bulger's career over?

I wouldn't necessarily say that Bulger's career is over, but he has a bad case of Battered Quarterback Syndrome that will likely require a new team and at least one season as a back-up before he's able to contribute in any meaningful way. He's owed a hefty roster bonus heading into next season so he's effectively done in St. Louis. Kyle Boller has been provided with opportunities this season, but he continues to have huge problems with accuracy. I don't believe that he's a starter in this league. I'd like to go defense in Round 1, but without some level of competency at the QB position, it's hard to turn any team around.

I personally like Jimmy Clausen, but the clock is ticking on Steven Jackson's shelf life and I don't care to go through some of the normal growing pains you see out of most rookie QB's. This is where my primary interest in Brady quinn comes from who, though not necessarily great, has seen what NFL defenses have to offer and might be able to manage an offense with a decent rushing attack.

We'll see how things will turn out. I've asked opinions on Quinn's worth, but haven't really received any answers - regardless of whether or not if folks believe he'll be put on the trade blocks. The Rams may need to go after Clausen and luck up in some other areas.

@sj_browns said:

A 4th for Quinn? Really? That's all?

Well, strictly in terms of Quinn's present day value (as it relates to draft picks) what do you believe he should fetch? I mean, if you subscribe to the "power of positive thinking," the Rams' 4th round pick could be viewed as a late 3rd. Also, if it meant anything to you, I could envision agreeing to flip-flop #66 and #68. Finally, #68 and our 4th likely gets you into the lower third of the 2nd round if you were so inclined.

If you're interested in a player to go along with the 4th round pick, who would you seriously want on our roster?

Hi Guys,

As a Rams fan, I definitely feel your pain over another tough season. My question deals with Brady Quinn and what you think the Browns organization would accept in trade for him. Although I realize that he's no Dan Fouts, I find it hard to believe that he's terrible either. Despite it being difficult to grade Quinn (considering the O-line play, lack of a running game, and no WR's), I think that Mangini wants to dump him. And after the mid-season benching, I don't believe that Quinn can fully trust him either.

Like the Browns, I feel as though the Rams can provide him with a maturing O-line for protection. But unlike the Browns, I believe that our running game has the potential to open things up for him more than what he's seen during his tenure with Cleveland. Although I'll take more, I'm only looking for solid - not great, but solid QB play out of Quinn.

What would be your reaction to the Rams offering up a 4th rounder for Quinn?