@hoorta said:

I think you just did, am I missing something?

your missing the fact that thats what the colts would ASK for and need to give up the pick. I'm not saying the browns would offer that.

@hoorta said:

"some of you think the browns are the front runner to trade for luck... uhhh with what? Youll have to give up AT LWAST 3 first rounders(not a big deal yet) plus cribbs, Phil taylor, sheard, joe thomas. AT LEAST. where does that leave the browns? with a cant miss prospect but no team..." Rocky Racoon

ROTFLMAO, you're about as dumb as the poster who suggested Luck will fall to four, if you think the Browns would give up that much for Luck. PS, you forgot to throw Joe Haden in on the deal.

Total agreement Cobra. If dad Archie gets his way- the Colts may well just draft Luck, and auction off Manning to the highest bidder. Can't happen? Joe Montana to KC, if you've forgotten.

If Indy wants to stick with Manning for a few more years, they'll just auction Luck off. Holmgren & Heckert aren't stupid- I'm certain they'll inquire what the asking price is. If it's too high, they'll pass. Dan Snyder might not though.

I didnt realize how fucking dumb some of you guys are until now.

Where did i say the browns would give up that much for luck? That would be the asking price from the colts, they have all the leverage in the world.

@cobra-kai said:

You're right. You're realistic.... Realistically demented. Well done!

You think the Colts are looking for players from the Dolphins??? hahaha!!!!

Oh, no! Wait! They're trying to steal away all the talent from the Seahawks! MY BAD!!! :lol:

No, no, no!!! It's the Redskins! The Colts are desperate for their running back Roy Helu!

The Colts... want... draft picks. Not draft picks in 2016. They want 2012 draft picks.

There is no team, (not looking for a QB,) with as much 1st round pick firepower, as the Cleveland Browns.

I will not argue that point with you. If you don't realize that, you are beyond dense. Make me my large fries, okay?

In the big picture 2 first round picks this year, With one being AT LEAST the 21st plus while trading the picks for luck doesnt amount to much. Especially when the other teams may be willing to give up their WHOLE draft for luck, or 3 first round picks 3 years in a row plus players and other picks. I dont know why you ASSUME the colts want picks this year only when building for the future involves more than 1 draft. Why do you think the dolphins and redskins and seattle didnt pick QB's last year? they knew this year they could get the top QB in a decade if they give up enough.

Like I said the browns are too conservitive and most of the time fuck their picks up.

And again the colts will select luck, they most likely wont know in april if manning is going to be there for years anyways.

@cobra-kai said:

AARRRGGHHH!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!! Some dickbrain thinks the Colts won't draft Luck or trade down the pick!!!

EINSTEIN SHIT, RIGHT THERE!!!

Hey... moron... IF the Colts aren't taking Luck, (and that's a HUUUUUGE 'if,') THEY... ARE.. TRADING... DOWN!!!!!! You dolt.

Why in the fuck would the Colts just pick somebody else, instead of getting multiple, multiple, multiple picks for Luck, genius???

Ugh. I feel gross, for even responding to such a stupid idea.

Damn, you're dumb as fuck.

Of course the colts would trade down if they dont take him(tell the other dumbfucks that think otherwise) but if you think the browns will get him its a HUGE LONGSHOT. The browns are conservative and fuck up their draft picks more often than not. The browns CONSTANTLY have high draft picks yet have nothing to show for it except a 4-12 record, while the REST OF THE DIVISION IS IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Why the fuck do you think the browns are the front runners for luck? the colts are clearly the front runner and luck isnt someone they will pass on. If they do your extra 1st doesnt mean much with how low it is gonna be. The dolphins, seattle, redskins etc have just as much if not more in terms of overall to trade, especially in terms of players. The browns cant give up any players because they have only a couple decent players, and the colts would take the foundation of the team before they gave the browns luck.

I'm a realist and some of the dumbfuck homers on this board are straight Retarded.

@cobra-kai said:

NOBODY thinks Luck will fall to the #4 spot, so for the sake of saving yourself from further embarrassing questions, please stop typing dumbshit stuff.

The Colts don't want Cribbs, or Taylor, or Sheard, or the contract for Thomas, if they go with Manning. The Colts are looking for 2012 Draft picks.

If any team is in line to trade up for Luck, it is STILL the Browns, with our extra 1st round pick.

Apperently you're illiterate too. http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21364

The colts dont have anybody except manning. They need all the decent players they can get. Your "extra" first round pick is basically nothing more than a high second round pick if you REALLY think it matters.

The colts wont only be going for 2012 picks. They will go for 2012+2013 plus as many players as they want.

The colts most likely will take luck anyway even if manning can play and they know well ahead of the draft, because luck is the best prospect to come out since manning, they would be dumb to not take him and sit him if need be.

RGIII is a way better value for the browns, because they dont have to give up anything for him ecept their 1 pick.

When i looked at the other thread i started laughing at how ignorant some of you are.

Some of you ACTUALLY think luck will/can fall to the 4th pick.... hahahha seriously??? seriously?

some of you think the browns are the front runner to trade for luck... uhhh with what? Youll have to give up AT LWAST 3 first rounders(not a big deal yet) plus cribbs, Phil taylor, sheard, joe thomas. AT LEAST. where does that leave the browns? with a cant miss prospect but no team...

Or you could keep all of your picks/players and draft RGIII who could be good.