Sivlerback DPOY said:

Mind if I highjack your thread and put my first round prediction here?

1 - STL: Bradford, Sam - QB - Oklahoma

2 - DET: Suh, Ndamukong - DT - Nebraska

3 - TB: McCoy, Gerald - DT - Oklahoma

4 - WAS: Okung, Russell - T - Oklahoma St.

5 - KC: Bulaga, Bryan - T - Iowa

6 - SEA: Clausen, Jimmy - QB - Notre Dame

7 - CLE: Berry, Eric - FS - Tennessee

8 - OAK: Campbell, Bruce - OT - Maryland

9 - BUF: Haden, Joe - CB - Florida

10 - JAX: Bryant, Dez - WR - Oklahoma St.

11 - DEN: Williams, Dan - DT - Tennessee

12 - MIA: Pierre-Paul, Jason - DE - South Florida

13 - SF: Morgan, Derrick - DE - Georgia Tech

14 - SEA: Thomas, Earl - SS - Texas

15 - NYG: Weatherspoon, Sean - OLB - Missouri

16 - TEN: Williams, Trent - T - Oklahoma

17 - SF: Mcclain, Rolando - ILB - Alabama

18 - PIT: Wilson, Kyle - CB - Boise St.

19 - ATL: Graham, Brandon - OLB - Michigan

20 - HOU: Pouncey, Mike - OG - Florida

21 - CIN: Spiller, C.J. - RB - Clemson

22 - NE: Mathews, Ryan - RB - Fresno St.

23 - GB: Brown, Charles - T - USC

24 - PHI: Iupati, Mike - OG - Idaho

25 - BAL: Gresham, Jermaine - TE - Oklahoma

26 - ARI: Odrick, Jared - DT - Penn State

27 - DAL: Davis, Anthony - T - Rutgers

28 - SD: Best, Jahvid - RB - California

29 - NYJ: Tate, Golden - WR - Notre Dame

30 - MIN: Price, Brian - DT - UCLA

31 - IND: Cody, Terrence - DT - Alabama

32 - NO: McCourty, Devin - CB - Rutgers

Great mocks, both of you. I really hope we do get Berry, he is a beast. The only problem is.. well.. he's a beast and everyone knows it. I doubt he will fall to us at #7. I also do not think Seattle will take Claussen when they just traded for Whitehurst who they view as QB of the future. I think Berry will be picked up by either Seattle or KC, unfortunately.

I would advise against touching your gun anywhere around a police officer, and especially do not "toss it in the back seat". That is the best way to get your ass shot, or at minimum, yanked out of the car window by your throat. Your call, though....

@ballpeen said:

You don't need to worry about carrying a loaded gun in your car.

Just don't have it concealed.

If you get stopped, take it from it's concealed place and toss it in the back seat so the officer doesn't feel threatened and tell him/her it is there as soon as they approach.

People need to quit acting like a loaded gun is a bad thing.....a unloaded gun is a bad thing. Why have it if it's unloaded??? Just carry a ballpeen hammer...they work better for smashing someone in the head than the butt end of a gun.

I agree. If the Browns decide to keep him, he will "owe them one". Maybe his attitude will change for the better. Yet another positive outcome

@the-gipper said:

The ultimate point being that he now having committed this transgression will probably NOT be an acceptable commodity to most other teams, particularly in a trade. Somebody might pick him up if he is released, but not trade for him.

Contrarily, it would probably be good for the Browns to keep him. Why? He does have talent. But before he was not really malleable. He bitched about Mangini, bitched about his contract, and, while he backed off those complaints I think he still felt like he was such a privileged POS that not even those bitches could harm him. Not now. Now he MUST be contrite. He MUST behave himself. He MUST put out all he has and accept what conditions the Browns place on him. If the Browns ultimately decide to stand behind him and take him back into the fold, he MUST now kiss the Browns organizations ass, and bust his big fat ole butt for them just to prove that he isn't some bad guy, criminal, malcontent.

Fair to say?

Who were the victims? There is no way you are getting a loaded weapon past airport security. He had no intent of maliciousness. How is this a big deal?

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I would hardly call attempting to bring a concealed weapon onboard an aircraft a "victimless crime". He made the mistake or whatever it was, and I hope they can his ass.

Big Shawn Rodgers is taking a beating for the mistake he made yesterday at Cleveland Hopkins Airport. The media and fans are relentlessly blasting with him for jeopardizing his playing career as well as subsequently diminishing his trade value. I have been reading all off season that the Browns should trade Big Shawn in order to maximize his value, due to his age and history of laziness. However, all we could get from him (pre arrest that is) was most likely a 4th or maybe a low 3rd.

Maybe I am in the minority with this position, but I think that if we would have traded him for a mid round pick or package him in a deal for a mediocre player, it would have been a mistake. He is a playmaker on a team that lacks playmakers. He is a probowl Nose Tackle that eats up blockers and fits a 3-4 scheme perfectly. I know the Browns' Defense and Rubin played well after his injury, but I attribute that to more aggressive play calling and Mangini and Ryan desperately making changes to save their jobs. I think that Rodgers will be an even better player due to a revamped LB crew (Gocong, Fujida, Jackson, Roth) and now two solid CB's that can play man to man, not just zone (a la Brandon McDonald). Now that he is almost untradable, we may actually find out just how good he can be.

Now, if you think about it, this incident really isn't that big of a deal. I think most of us realize that Rodgers did not intentionally try to sneak a gun on the plane. He was not going to Hijack a plane in the name of Jihad. He did have a concealed weapons permit, and is legally allowed to carry a concealed weapon in Ohio. Now, that being said, he was reckless in not checking his bag prior to going through security. For that fact alone, he will probably be suspended, but not for as long as you may think.

This time last year, Marshawn Lynch was suspended by Goodell after pleading guilty to carrying a concealed weapon without a permit in his car. He received a 3 game suspension. That's not that long for someone who was not suppose to have a gun in the first place. In 2007, Carolina Panthers OL Jeremy Bridges was suspended for 2 games for pointing a loaded gun at a stripper at a parking lot. 2 games... I would be surprised if Rodgers received more than a 3 game suspension. I can live with that. But I want him back on the field and in a Browns uniform for the rest of the season.

As far as jail time... won't happen. Most he will get is probation. Remember, he has the money for great legal defense.

Look, there is a reason why there are xray machines and metal detectors at the airport. It is to keep guns off airplanes. That is, either from terrorists, criminals and idiot gun owners who forget to disarm. As a former police officer, I personally know and have heard of several officers who mistakenly went through security with their duty weapons (of course, they weren't charged). It happens.

I'm actually happy this happened. It was a victimless crime and something that is not as bad as people are making it out to be. It ensures that Rodgers will not be traded due to his trade value dwindling. I do not believe that the Browns will give up such an important piece of their defense for a low round pick or just release him because of a mistake that happens quite a bit.

Poll results from the old forum

Do you want Shawn Rodgers to play for the Browns next year?

• Yes: 21 votes
• no: 12 votes