@the-gipper said:

Ron Jaworski is doing his Top 30 NFL QBs. I believe the Final List will look like this:

1. Rodgers

2. Brees

3. Brady

4. P. Manning

5. E. Manning

6. Roethlisberger

7. Rivers

8. Cutler

9. Flacco

10. Romo

11. Ryan

12. Vick

13. Schaub

14. Stafford

15. Newton

16. Alex Smith

17. Freema

18. Hasselback

19. Dalton

20. Bradford

21. Carson Palmer

22. Cassell

23. Sanchez

24. Fitzpatrick

25. Kolb

26. Matt Moore

27. Flynn

28. Ponder

29. Gabbert

30. Tebow

The question is: who are overrated/underrated in your opinion?

Note: The Colts/Browns/Redskins did not have a QB ranked because it is believed that all three teams will have a rookie at starting QB. The Jets got 2 QBs probably because of A. the fact that Tebow was a starter last year and B. the fact that they are Tebow suckasses and just want to play up his hype.

(Ghoolie: note, with these past 2 posts I am trying to get some football discussion going)

Hello Kasko

How are you?

Reds are doing well this season. What say you?

@tour2ma said:

Excellent! Hail to the Redskins...

But if there's any truth that we tried to match the 'Skins ridiculous offer (#1 and 2 in 2012, 2013's 1 and 2014's 1), I'd be seriously pissed at our FO...

This. This is a Daniel Snyder move. Anyone that wanted the Browns to trade 3 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick to move up 2 spots in the draft is an idiot.

I'm a fan of RG3, but that is the most lopsided trade I've ever seen in sports.

@hoorta said:

Cal, you have to take everything you see on Bleacher Report with a serious grain of salt. You want my .02 on what's really going to happen come April? The Browns will get into a bidding war over RGIII.

Yes, I know you want to give Colt another year with better receivers. I did too- until I spent about 3 hours this past week looking at Browns 2011 games, and the Baylor- Washington game. Trust me, Griffin can make throws Colt will NEVER be able to make, not if he spends the rest of his life in a gym working to improve his arm strength. You notice the Eli to Manningham toss in the SB? That pass is a yawner for Griffin.

Only a question will be if Manning winds up with the Redskins and Griffin falls into our lap. It's an absolute no brainer on the Browns part to take RGIII.

I think the Foreskins go hard after RG3 if they don't get Manning

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Yes yes yes, dumbasses. Congregate and talk like you are NFL execs who know what teh fkuck is going on.

Even though this Rubic's cube only has 2 pieces and you dumb asses STILL can't get it............... here is the down and dirty................

1) As a QB COlt McCoy is a dumbass, noodle armed, slow wit, blind as a bat SHIT PILE as a QB/

2) Colt McCoy will never start in the NFL again.

3) RG3 is the BEST talent in the QB field.

4) RG3 is within the graps of The Browns.

NOBODY in their right fkucking mind passes on this kind of talent when it may only take a second round pick to move up and guarantee we get him.

Right Tackles and fatass overpaid Joe THomas are not going to get the Browns anywhere. These are dime-a-dozen players and can be picked up at any jail or drunken biker saloon.

When a team doesn't have a QB, all the other pieces don't mean shit. THEY DON'T MEAN SHIT.

Should the Browns stand pat with McCoy, then I will bet anyone $1000 per win in 2012 over 5 - 11 versus $1000 for any wins under 5 - 11.

In other words, 5 - 11 scratches.

" I wouldn't give up picks to move up"

Good shit beasiality, WTF are you idiots smoking. As if anyone in their right mind would pass on this kid if McShit was their QB.

Is that what it would take to move up to #2 according to draft chart?

If so, that's a small price to pay to grab a franchise QB, if the FO thinks he is one. 2nd round picks rarely tun into all pro type guys.

Idk, who was drafting #4 the year Mcnabb was drafted, but with hindsight I'm sure they would've gave up a second rounder to get him.