Baker apologists getting SMASHED itt

@ap1 said:

You didn't mention any of them. But step off the block and take a 5,000 ft view of things. In the calendar year 2021, the Browns are a touchdown turned fumble turned touchback away from the AFC Championship Game; this season, they're a dropped punt snap away from a Week 1 win in KC and a blown call on a horrendous OPI against the Chargers from being 6-1.

The Browns are literally three plays from Stefanski going to the AFC Championship in his first season and being in the AFC Driver's seat in his second season. 

He's won the same number of games halfway into his second season as Hue Jackson, Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens did from 2016 through 2019.

Does KS walk on water? NO. Can he turn water into wine? NO. Are there adjustments that need to be made? Certainly. Do I trust him to make those adjustments? I do.

The title of your thread starts with "This is ALL Stefanski's fault."

The Browns are winning, take a breath, put the pitchfork down, dunk the torch in water. They could have hired Matt Rhule or Joe Judge.

How many times would a good offensive play calling coach dial up a draw on 3rd and 10?  Sounds like a coach that doesn't trust his QB, or horribly inept at calling plays.  Which is it?

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Go away.

Stockholm syndrome is a real thing.  I guess now you know.  I'm sorry you like being tortured by this horrible play calling.

@ap1 said:

Hahahahaha...isn't it the truth?

We were all so much better off as Browns' fans with the successes of such offensive revolutionaries as Freddie Kitchens, Hue Jackson, Rob Chudzinski, Pat Shurmur and Chris Palmer...

which of those did I mention?  I said Alex Van Pelt.  The others were clowns.

Just because this coach brought a level-headed, professional demeanor to the organization that coincided with a couple winning seasons you guys want to put him in the god-tier level of coaching exempt from any criticism.  He's far from it.  Look at that 3rd and 10 draw play.  Straight Retarded.  He just can't call a game.  Run, run, pass, over and over and over and over again.  Opposing teams know it too. 

Hand over the F'ing offensive reins to Alex Van Pelt and let him call games like he did last year when Stefanki was sitting home in his basement watching the Browns RUN the score up on the Steelers in the WC round in last year's playoffs.

Baker isn't doing ANYTHING in this conservative dink and dunk offense Stefanski has installed.

He ruined WR Stefon Diggs in Minnesota until he left for Buffalo to become a pro bowl-type receiver.  He is ruining OBJ now.  The guy just doesn't like the pass game.  He has installed this 1991 archaic offense of running the ball constantly instead of the upgraded 2021 passing attack of today's NFL. 

Look at baker when we spread the offense and let him throw indiscriminately.  He balls out.  Stefanski in Minnesota made Kirk Cousins regress (now Cousins is doing better without him), and now Baker--not to mention the WRs. OPEN UP AND SPREAD THE OFFENSE AND GUN SLING -- THAT'S HOW YOU SET UP BAKER TO WIN.  Otherwise Baker should leave, because Stefanski is killing his value.  

Baker SUCKS.  Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good.  DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth.  Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods.  Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.

Zombo said:

Hi Debbie Downer.

He had a horrible day.

We won on the road anyway.

I have never been prouder.

Z

lol wut?!  "Never been prouder" of that performance? Ok, I'll remember that take when my daughter brings home a failing grade with a smile.  I'm so proud of you sweetheart!  Can you bring home a lower grade next time?  There you go sweetie, here's a snickers bar.

Was Baker drunk today? He SUCKED. NOT a "franchise QB" sort of day. Throwing above, behind, wide of every ALL day. TERRIBLE showing.

Baker and that bum Beckham Jr need to GO.

baker: I give up on this bum. I gave him 2-3 years but he just can't read zone. At all. He came into the league as the most accurate QB of the draft but can't throw with accuracy anything over 10 yards. He's hesitant int he pocket and throws WAY too many INTs. He's just a wreck and his confidence is shot.

Odell is a loser through and through.  He's no better than Braylon edwards.

Havent won an opener in 16 years.  WTF is wrong with this franchise?  Pathetic SHI# stain LOSERS!

What can I say anymore. It's actually harder to suck this long than to occasionally be good and have a great season. This team is f'ing cursed.


Hey at least we can will have Fields or Trevor as a consolation prize--which I'm fully expecting them to turn into a pumpkin once they put on the Sh#% stain uniforms.

SAME BORING CRAP. These unis are a tip of the hat to all you boring boomers out there.

This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type.  HATE this pick.

@thenew23 said:

From Albert Breer on "Monday Afternoon Quarterback"

"Browns QB Baker Mayfield graded out well after the coaches looked at his tape on Monday. As they saw it, there were nine drops in the game, and if those had been catches, he’d have gone over 400 yards. And the pick six to Oakland’s Gareon Conley and a fumbled center exchange weren’t on him, as they saw it. He wasn’t perfect, but the staff there is pretty confident in what they can do with the kid."

I hate to be premature, but I think we finally found our Franchise QB... now its time for the rest of the team to step up and start believing in themselves.  Gotta expect to win games!!

You hate to be "premature"?  I think you're LATE on the notion he is our franchise QB.

Hue seriously needs to be fired if we lose next week.  Enough is a F'in NOUGH!

Nope.  What goes around comes around little faggots.  Remember they wouldn't trade us Garoppolo?  They said they'd do him right by sending him the San Fran instead of Cleveland.  F off.  You aren't getting the QB YOU want now.  ROT.

you gotta be an idiot to believe this

nobody has time for this ish, gramps.

@dutch-oven said:

I like Barkley. I think he's an impressive prospect, and I think some of his issues last season with mediocre games can be accounted for by defenses obviously selling out to stop him, and daring Baker Mayfield-Lite to beat them. Barkley was getting hit the second he got the ball vs OSU repeatedly. 

But people want to use the #1 pick on a player:

1. Whose position has the shortest shelf-life of any position in football

2. Who plays a position that time after time has been ably filled by lower drafted players

3. Who plays a position that many teams prefer to rotate multiple players to fill instead of depending on one workhorse

4.  Who plays a position generally devalued in 2018 NFL 

I just do not see the logic in taking Barkley or practically any RB ever this high. 

The average life span of an NFL RB is just under 3 years.....6 years for those making opening day roster and Pro-bowlers 11 years.  I believe barkley can be a pro bowler.

if they aren't "enamored" with any of the top QBs you take Barkley number 1 and take one the QB's you aren't "enamored" by with the number 4 pick. 

Pure manimal!

Don't screw this up Dorsey!  You take this beast number 1 overall and the next best available QB.  Don't be an idiot!