@thomam3 said: Tom Tupa is only 51. TD-INT: 12–25 Passing yards: 3,430 Passer rating: 60.5 Thats better stats there. I'm going with Tupa.  Wow you're right, how'd I miss that? He was also a decent punter. Tom Tupa No. 19, 7, 9 Position: PunterQuarterback Personal information Born: February 6, 1966 (age 51)Cleveland, Ohio Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 225 lb (102 kg) Career information High school: Broadview Heights (OH) Brecksville College: Ohio State NFL Draft: 1988 / Round: 3 / Pick: 68

@dutch-oven said: I guess I would think you would have picked a fullback that was actually good? You can be honest - it was because he was white, right? He wasn't really "white".   He was actually, like, Polynesian or something...wasn't he? Or, actually, upon further review...it seems that the Vardells have a lot of Native American.

@the-cysko-kid said: You can teach a guy with bad throwing mechanics to throw better. You can improve arm strength. You cannot teach a dullard to be smart.  Kizer is smart- off the field. Between the lines? Not so much.  I've been preaching from day one you can't coach accuracy, and in that regard, anyone seen massive improvement from his ND days? Famous for bad turnovers at the worst possible times in college, still happening in the pros. I doubt he'll ever "get it" anytime soon. Maybe in 5 years on another team. Coaches and GMs are always looking for guys with athletic talent they think they can "fix", LOL like Hue and RG III.

No way. Gerhart is more of a running back then a fullback. Gerhart makes quit cuts while keeping shoulder up-field the whole time. He makes less contact then Hillis did. Hillis was a head case.

Honestly I would want us to sign a guy like Gerhart, and also draft a third round type guy, like either Hyde or what's his name from Baylor. With Gerhart, draft pick, and the trio of Baker, Lewis, and Obi, we have a stable to run through training camp and preseason, then we can see the best man on the field, where as last year we went in so sure, shuffled the #4 and #5 RB's on the roster for the whole preseason and watched our top 3 guys go down with either injury, trade, or miss use.