@walterwhite said:

I was shitfaced in Heinz Field when I watched it in person, now watching it on TV and here are my notes.

1. The o-line is there. It's getting very strong and very solid. Love Bitonio.

2. Jordan Cameron flat out cost us a TD, he fell fucking down and we settled for a field goal. Stay on your feet and that's 7 points.

3. Brian Hoyer had 3 interceptions dropped. Once by Shazier, one by Taylor, one by Allen. He still throws some very questionable passes. I don't think he's set in stone to be a great starter. He got away with A LOT. He can also be soo oooo good when he's confident. He is going to struggle without Gordon.

4. Ben Tate, Terrance West, and Isaah Crowell are a 3 headed monster. Love it.

5. Hawkins & Gabriel are quality starters. The lack of a true #1 is disturbing. Should of drafted Watkins, Evans, or Benjamin.

6. Joe Haden is overrated. He gets burnt far too much to be elite. He causes a lot of penalties too. Had 2 or 3 this game. Joe Haden is an above average corner but not elite. He's just the best we have. He's Antonio Browns bitch. Justin Gilbert is totally fucking lost. I don't know whats worse, his lack of coverage or the fact he has the tackling ability of a frightened college mentality back up. I would bench him on principal alone.

7. Ryan Shazier is a fucking animal. DROY material.

8. Paul Kruger is coming along nicely. Glad to see him earning that $

9. Donte Whitner is all bark, absolutely zero bite.

10. Whoever is the tackling coach, should be shot. I'd have these fuckers running gassers until they died. Fucking pathetic.

11. Armonty Bryant fucking slammed Big Ben. It was amazing.

12. 30 seconds left in the 3rd on 3rd and 1 and Hoyer or someone fucked up a hand off. Settled for a field goal. We should of scored there or got the first down. Too many mistakes like this cost us games.

13. Stay in this no huddle pistol as much as possible.

14. The fake punt... That's balls right there. That's playing to win. That's a perfect example of why the Steelers are better than us. They play to win. That changed the momentum. We had them pinned and another classic fuck up by Haden and Gilbert.

15. We lot off the fucking gas in the final minutes. This is on Shanahan and Pettine. We quit doing what got us to comeback. Total fucking pussy shit. I can't believe we punted with 4:30 left. We had it 2nd and 7 and we should have just kept fucking pounding it or did a play action. This was a momentum shifter.

16. Our final drive, sacked for -6 yards, at this point WHY NOT LET THE FUCKING CLOCK RUN OUT TO FORCE PITT TO USE A TIME OUT? Next play, incomplete pass... next play a screen for -4 yards. Got scared and played like fucking dummies. Instead of giving Pittsburgh 20-30 seconds with no timeouts, we gave them 49.

17. Am I fucking dreaming or how did we FUCK UP THAT PUNT INSIDE THE 1? That's fucking pathetic. Another classic Cleveland opportunity we let slip.

18. Gilbert burnt twice in the final 30 seconds. Why didn't they fucking pull his ass earlier? The 20 yard pick up Gilberts dumb fucking ass was 6 yards away and laying on the fucking ground. God what a bum.

Are there things to build on? Yes.

But it was classic blown opportunities (the fake punt, punt inside the 1 and shitty coaching (our final drive, not forcing them to burn their timeouts, not pulling Gilbert) in the end that got us.

I blame Pettine, Shanahan, and Gilbert for losing this game.

Bright Spots: 0-line, RB's, Hoyer, Hawkins, Gabriel, Dansby, Kruger, Mingo, Bryant, Kirskey.

Fuck Sticks: Whitner, Haden, and Gilbert.

In the end, it was a fucking heartbreaker but we were out coached.

right on!

@kvoethe said:

For me it was the Browns double overtime victory over the jets. Ill be honest, it was freezing and i was ready to leave early, but my friend at the time refused to go. He saved me from being ' that guy' regretting leaving early.

Since then i never leave a game early, you never know what might happen. This past weekends steeler game reminded me of that.

I was freezing cold, out of beer money, and ready to head back to y-town. We stuck it out and ended up having an amazing time.

I dont see the friend anymore, he became a crackhead and used to call people out of his yearbook trying to get money, but damn what a memory.

That's mine too. I don't remember it being cold.

I hope that was us being good and not the Squealers laying down and playing Prevent D.

@masterdog said:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11465461/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-files-10th-trademark-johnny-cleveland

"While he waits to get his trademark to Johnny Football registered, Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel has filed for a trademark to a new nickname: Johnny Cleveland."

Is this all this fool care about? How bout learning the focking playbook!?!?!

Has he earned it?

Who gives a flying fxxk? Do u really care what happens off the field? Do you sub to People magazine?

Schwartz is a PC of shit

It was a woman...with a beard.

And I forgot to mention...it'll be on mute, in honor of Bernie.

#1, as always - I'd like to see an OL that is good....for once in my lifetime. Protect the QB and open holes.

I read it. Used to be called YELLOW JOURNALISM. All the more reason to BAN ESPN.

We're getting a lot of press. After the pick last night ESPN was so depressing so I switched to Nfln and it was much better. My favorite is Mayock.

Seems like a great kid

Nobody wants to win more than Johnny

I'm just a stupid fan that's watched football for 50 years. I've seen top picks play like crap and get cut, I've seen lowly draft picks go to the Hall of Fame. I've watched Manziel maybe 5-8 games and I have to say I cannot remember a better or more exciting player that I would like to have on my team based on the limited amount I've watched him.

I would not be at all surprised...actually I expect the Browns to sign a waived/cut Sanchez any day now.

@topdawg31 said:

Absolutely no point in going forward with the current regime. Their entire draft was a bust. Their FA signings were a bust. They cut players that go on to have pro bowl seasons compared to what they kept on the roster. Our DC is a joke. We can't gain 2 yards when given 7 trys. Really? Someone please try to convince me as to why this group can win more that 4 games next year, cause I don't see it. And please don't use the continuity BS, the only continuity this group will bring is back to back 4 win seasons. Every free agent on this team is going to bolt for higher ground leaving even more holes to fill. PLEASE JIMMY FIRE THEM ALL, it's all I ask for Christmas.

I agree dude. I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid anymore. I look at the record and that's it.

You said -

I think we can all agree that Peyton, Rodgers and Brees are now superior to him. I've compiled some extensive stats that make arguments for slightly less Herculean QBs:

I wouldn't agree to that in a million years - Tom Brady is the BEST QB TO HAVE EVER PLAYED THE GAME.

I don't care what the players think. The uniform belongs to the fans. I believe in tradition and if changes need to be made-make them after I die. No this is not sarcasm.

I get DTV, record the game, then about an hour after its started, start watching the DVR.... That way, no commercials. This costs $200 to $300......

Now, if money was a problem, I'd take NFL Rewind I think its called which has the games played back later in the day - I think late Sunday night. NFL.com for $70.

I think Weeden will be fine with lots of reps and the coaching....but most importantly a good reliable running game

Bademosi got lots of good praise from Dieken and Donovan....they sounded like they think he'll be the starter and he'll be a good one.

nobody on this board knows if he can make the transition or not

and by the way DE's turn into LB's all the time - just look at the top of the draft every year