As you know he had that video that went viral a couple of days ago, and in the last year of his contract, the Giants might be tempted to move on.
Would you trade Corey Coleman and the 4th Pick for OBJ ? He would reunite with one of his best friend in Landry and have his college receiver coach with him.
I mean you would have Gordon, Beckham, Jandry......
Hire:
- Gary Kubiak, OC
- Dave Toub, STC
Release:
- Nate Orchard
- Cody Kessler
- Ricardo Louis
- Sammie Coates
Resign:
- Rashard Higgins
- Danny Vitale
FA Signature:
- Allen Robinson, WR (1 year, $16 million)
- Aaron Lynch, DE (1 year, $6 million)
- Terrence Brooks, S (2 years, $2.7 million)
- Sebastian Janikowski, K (1 year, $2.5 million)
- De’Anthony Thomas, WR (2 years, $3.4 million)
Trade:
- Send two 5th Round Picks to the Chiefs for Alex Smith
- Send 4th Round Pick from the Panthers to the Giants for Ereck Flowers
Draft:
1st Pick: Sam Darnold, QB USC
4th Pick: Saquon Barkley, RB Penn State
33rd Pick: Deshon Elliott, S Texas
36th Pick: Jaire Alexander, CB Louisville
(Trade 62nd and 65th Pick to the Bears for the 40th Pick)
40th Pick: Deon Cain, WR Clemson
Remaining picks:
(Fourth round: (2) Own pick, Panthers' pick via Andy Lee trade).
(Fifth round: (2) Own pick, Chiefs' pick (conditional) via Cam Erving trade.)
Sixth round: (2) Own pick, Steelers' pick via Justin Gilbert trade.
Seventh round: (1) Own pick.
Biggest backup needs for remaining picks:
- Linebacker
- Center
- Pass Rusher
- Special Teams Gunner
2018 Browns Starting Lineup:
Offense:
QB: Alex Smith
RB: Saquon Barkley, (Duke Johnson)
(FB: Danny Vitale)
WR: Josh Gordon, Allen Robinson, Corey Coleman
TE: David Njoku, (Seth Devalve)
OL: Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Shon Coleman
Defense:
DL: Emmanuel Ogbah, Danny Shelton, Larry Ogunjobi, Myles Garrett
LB: Jamie Collins, Joe Schobert, Chris Kirksey
CB: Jason McCourty, Jamar Taylor, (Briean Boddy-Calhoun)
S: Jabrill Peppers, Deshon Elliott
Special Team:
K: Sebastian Janikowski
P: Britton Colquitt
LS: Charley Hughlett
KR/PR: Jabrill Peppers
Hehe I got one nice pick
The two biggest needs today is a ballhawk midlle fielder free safety who could start down the road this season and a starting slot receiver.
145th Pick : Xavier Woods, S Louisianna Tech
175th Pick : Howard Wilson, CB Houston
181st Pick : Dede Westbrook, WR Oklahoma
185th Pick : Paul Magloire Jr, LB Arizona
188th Pick : Aaron Jones, RB UTEP
All pd these guys were very productive and have a really high SPARQ score
Desmond King or starting slot receiver at #65.
Desmond King at 65 and it's a perfect night
Didn't even have to move up. PERFECT
TRADE : The Browns trade the 52nd Pick, the 175th Pick and 2018 Eagles 2nd Round Pick to the Jets for the 39th Pick.
39th Pick : Deshone Kizer, QB Notre Dame
TRADE : The Browns trade the 65th and the 145th Pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for the 59th Pick
59th Pick : Marcus Williams, S Utah
181ft Pick : Dede Westbrook, WR Oklahoma
185th Pick : Paul Magloire Jr, LB Arizona
188th Pick : Nate Hairston, CB Temple
Would you be happy with that ?
2017 Starting Lineup :
Offense :
QB : Patrick Mahomes
RB : Isaiah Crowell, (Duke Johnson)
(FB : Dan Vitale)
WR : Corey Coleman, Kenny Britt, Dede Westbrook
TE : Gary Barnidge, (Seth Devalve)
OL : Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Shon Coleman
Defense :
DL : Emmanuel Ogbah, Danny Shelton, Xavier Cooper, Myles Garrett
LB : Dominique Alexander, Chris Kirksey, Jamie Collins
CB : Joe Haden, Gareon Conley, (Jamar Taylor)
S : Marcus Maye, Budda Baker
Special Teams :
K :
P : Britton Colquitt
LS : Charley Hughlett
KR/PR : Dede Westbrook
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
12th Pick : Patrick Mahomes, QB Texas Tech
TRADE : Browns trade the 33rd, 175th Pick and 2018 3rd Round Pick to the Raiders for the 24th Pick.
24th Pick : Bishard "Budda" Baker, DB Washington
52nd Pick : Marcus Maye, S Florida
65th Pick : Sidney Jones, CB Washington
108th Pick : Gareon Conley, CB Ohio State
145th Pick : Dede Westbrook, WR Oklahoma
181st Pick : Vincent Taylor, DT Oklahoma State
185th Pick : Paul Magloire Jr, LB Arizona
188th Pick : Jonnu Smith, TE Florida International
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
The best talent in the draft who happens to play at a premium position. This would form one of the best d-line in football with him, Ogbah, Shelton and even Nassib ala Giants. No brainer.
12th Pick : Marshon Lattimore, CB Ohio State
Him and Tabor carry the same grade for me but Lattimore doen’t have the off-field concerns Tabor has. Marshon has range and smooth hips. He can run with everybody and has great closing speed. A playmaker with the ball in his hands, he can become one of the premier player at his position.
33rd Pick : Patrick Mahomes, QB Texas Tech
There it is. It might be a slight reach here but we don’t have the choice. He is still a good value because he is really talented. His body, arm and toughness scream AFC North. But he will require some time but I trust Hue on this one because he would be the most talented QB he has coached in Cleveland. His footwork and his mechanics are out of control sometimes but the tools are there.
52nd Pick : Desmond King, S Iowa
This is a man crush here. I think he is too short and not fast enough to be an outside cover corner but I believe he is smart enough and tough enough to be a great safety and nickel corner. He posseses elite ball skills and is stout against the run. Let him do his things deep and the Browns got themselves a 10 years starter.
65th Pick : Jamaal Williams, RB BYU
Running back was probably the best position group last year. But Crowell is a RFA this year and who knows what might happen. This running back class is one of the best of the decade and it would be smart to take advantage of it. Williams would be a steal at this point. He is a one cut physical runner who reminds me of Demarco Murray.
4th Round (Compensatory) : Vincent Taylor, DT Oklahoma State
With Garrett, Shelton and Ogbah set on the d-line, Bryant is the only question mark. He is still a good player but he will be 32 next season and didn’t play a single snap last year. So the Browns should be looking for his potential replacement. Taylor is quick off the snap on passing downs and handles blockers well in the running game which make him a complete prospect with a high ceilling.
4th Round (Compensatory) : Jon Toth, C Kentucky
I believe the Browns should be very agressive in order to sign JC Tretter to be the new starting center. Butl it’s still far from done. Outside of QB, this is the biggest hole on offence. Toth is an athletic and experienced center with strengh who is a terrific run blocker. He also uses his hands well on passing downs. He was really good in the senior bowl againts bigtime competition.
128th Pick : Kendell Beckwith, LB LSU
Kirksey was pretty good last season and earned his chance to be the starting inside backer next season. But I still have my douts about him. Plus he doen’t have a backup right now. Beckwith is a true inside force against the run who can tackle everybody. He also showed some nice moves in space on passing downs. A nice developing piece.
158th Pick : Adam Bisnowaty, OG Pitt
The Browns have a really solid guard duo in Bitonio and Greco. But both suffered the same foot injury last year and might not be ready for the beginning of next year. Also Greco isn’t getting any younger and they still need depth along the o-line. Bisnowaty played mostly has a tackle but will benefit from moving inside. He showed well at that spot at the senior bowl.
5th Round (Compensatory) : Michael Roberts, TE Toledo
Barnidge is one of our best veteran but just like Greco and Bryant, he isn’t getting any younger. Devalve is a nice project but he needs competition for the TE2 spot. Roberts is a local guys who catches balls like oranges with his huge hands and is a prolific red-zone threat with upside.
176th Pick : Stacy Coley, WR Miami
Pryor and Coleman will secure the outside receiver spots. But the WR3/slot spot is a question mark. The second year wideouts will have a chance to compete as well as Hawkins but Coley offers better speed and route running. He could also run outside routes and be succesfull. He is also a threat as a returner. Good value.
Let me know what you think !
Well, Allen at the top of the second is an even bigger reach IMHO than taking Trubisky #1 overall. You sure can judge a guy by his stats at the college level. Unless his receivers have hands of stone- the completion % is a big red flag. I've come to the opinion- you're either accurate by the time you hit college, or you're not. Our pal Griffin still struggles with it after 4 years in the NFL. http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3918298/josh-allen
I'll try to be fair- Walter Football doesn't even rate him as a prospect- yet. He's #9 here. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1007134&draftyear=2019&genpos=QB That screams 4-5th round project. I did take a quick look at some of his highlights, and on first glance reminded me of a more mobile Joe Flacco.
If Mitch stunk in his bowl game (not exactly) Josh was worse in his. Both of them may not even declare making this a moot point. You can start Camp Allen, but it's going to be mighty lonely in there.
Matt Miller had him at number 3 to Chicago and his 16th player overall
Allen isn't even in the top 20 in the ranking I looked at. His stats are pedestrian. 56% completion rate, Trubisky blows him away in TD\Int ratio. This in a second tier conference. As you infer AG, major project.
You can't judge a player a QB based on his stats especially at the college level !
Yeah Trubisky might be a better player right now but he won't be available at the top of the second round and I don't want to reach for him earlier.
Plus we said the same things about Wentz last year. It's all about traits not stats.
Too early to speculate what the Browns may do in the draft. Can't say I know much about Allen- his name hasn't come up yet. Doing some research- for good reason, he's only a sophomore and isn't eligible. And his stats aren't anything to write home about either. My quarterback pecking order is currently Trubisky- Kizer- Mahomes- Watson.
Letting Pryor walk would be a mistake, unless he's asking for the moon in a new contract. I could see the Browns going after Switzer from NC, a younger and cheaper alternative to Hawkins.
If the Browns don't sign a FA o-line as you suggest, drafting one no later than the pick we got from the Titans in the second round is imperative in my book, because Erving flat out sucks.
Allen is a RS sophomore so he's eligible.
Pryor isn't a N1 wideout. Giving him that type or money is a mistake. We drafted 4 guys last year, let's see what they can do.
I said they should sign Tretter, the center from the Packers. He graded as the 11th best center last season and will probably leave because the have Corey Lindsey who is still in his rookie contract.
Staff :
Fire Ray Horton and hire Gus Bradley as the new D coordinator.
Cuts :
- Robert Griffin III
- Tramon Williams
- Demario Davis
- Ibraheim Campbell
Trades :
- Cam Erving for a conditional pick
- Joe Haden for a 2018 3rd Round pick
Resignings :
- Jamie Collins, 5 years, $51 millions
- Give Isaiah Crowell the tender
- Stephen Pea, 2 years, $3,2 millions
- Britton Colquitt, 1 year, $1,3 million
- Let Terrelle Pryor go
FA Signings :
- Safety Tony Jefferson, 5 years, $35 millions
- Center JC Tretter, 4 years, $28 millions
- Kicker Phil Dawson, 1 year, $3 millions
Mock Draft :
First round (2): Their own pick and the first-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles
Second round (2): Their own pick and the second-round pick from the Tennessee Titans
Third round (1): Their own pick
Fourth round (2): Selections are compensatory picks for losing Mitchell Schwartz and Tashaun Gipson in free agency.
Fifth round (3): Their own pick, a compensatory pick for losing Travis Benjamin in free agency, the fifth-round pick from the New England Patriots
Sixth round (1): Their own pick
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
Slam dunk, no brainer don't overthink. There is one road to take here, this one. A faster Aldon Smith.
12th Pick : Jalen Tabor, CB Florida
It's time to move on from Joe Haden. I hate that because I love him but he is just not reliable any more. So they replace him with the best corner of this class who happens to be from the same school.
33rd Pick : Josh Allen, QB Wyoming
Reaching for a QB at the top would be a huge mistake. I really wanted Luke Falk here but Allen is a great value at this point. He would certainly need time before starting, but he comes from a pro style offense and has everything you want in a QB except experience.
50th Pick : Desmond King, S Iowa
The free safety position was a disaster this season. King isn't fast enough to be a corner but instinctive and smart enough to be a great ballhawk safety at the next level.
65th Pick : Adoree Jackson, CB USC
Calhoun was a surprise but needs competition in the slot. Jackson is an outstanding athlete who would finally give us a weapon on special team. Could be used on offense too. Reminds me of Devin Hester.
4th Round : Vincent Taylor, DT Oklahoma State
Kendell Beckwith, LB LSU
5th Round : Jordan Willis, DE Kansas State
Tyler Orlosky, C West Virginia
Tyrone Crowder, G Clemson
6th Round : Stacy Coley, WR Miami
2017 Starting Lineup :
Offense :
QB : Josh Allen
RB : Isaiah Crowell, (Duke Johnson)
(FB : Dan Vitale)
WR : Corey Coleman, Rashard Higgins, Andrew Hawkins
TE : Gary Barnidge, (Seth Devalve)
OL : Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, John Greco, Shon Coleman
Defense :
DL : Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Desmond Bryant, Emmanuel Ogbah
LB : Dominique Alexander, Chris Kirksey, Jamie Collins
CB : Jalen Tabor, Jamar Taylor, (Briean Boddy-Calhoun)
S : Tony Jefferson, Desmond King
Special Teams :
K : Phil Dawson
P : Britton Colquitt
LS : Charley Hughlett
KR/PR : Adoree Jackson
One offseason. That's what it would take.
Ngakoue doesn't belong in the same categorie as Spence. He would give us 10+ sacks right away and shows up against the run.
As for Alexander, respecfully, ARE YOU ON DRUGS ?? Last time i check, Tyrann Mathieu was supposed to be a nickel too.
8th Pick : Noah Spence, DE Eastern Kentucky
Best pass rusher in this class. Special talent.
32nd Pick : Mackenzie Alexander, CB Clemson
Undersized, no picks, blablabla... PFF stud, MONEYBALL.
65th Pick : Hassan Ridgeway, DT Texas
3 down D-linemen who can start right away.
77th Pick : Shon Coleman, T Auburn
Should be taken earlier but cancer survivor and 25 years old rookie.
99th Pick : Tyvis Powell, S Ohio State
Ball hawking safety with tremendous athletism.
100th Pick : Nick Martin, G Notre Dame
A center. Or a guard. Great at both.
138th Pick : Demarcus Robinson, WR Florida
Second round talent. Off field issues. MONEYBALL
141st Pick : Willie Henry, DT Michigan
Should be taken earlier but terrific DT class. Ridgeway 2.0.
172nd Pick : Terrance Smith, LB Florida State
Super athletic LB who will need to be coached up to fulfill his potential.
173rd : Marquez North, WR Tennessee
A n°1 big receiver who didn't play enough to show it.
176th Pick : Elandon Roberts, LB Houston
A natural leader on and off the field with do it all capabilities.
223rd Pick : Marshaun Coprich, RB Illinois State
Do you know Thomas Rawls ? Here's his little brother.
Ifo Ekpre Olomu will be the starting free safety next year if healthy. Mark my words
