Except our defense was ranked 9th in the NFL under Ray Horton.

This is on a Cleveland Browns forum why??

Seems to me like Farmer and co. aren't "dropping the ball" like the entire nation is trying to allude to after all!!!!

To those that keep saying players don't want to come to cleveland, maybe the shoe is on the other foot and our front office is only targeting the right players for their scheme...

Of course they aren't going to get every player they want, but playing it smart and not over budgeting will allow them to lock down the players they truly want...ala Mack and Thomas.

This Miami/Cleveland thing is crazy....

VesnaKociper said:

Just got back from Vegas, and thought I was in a Twilight Zone episode. Jordan signs with Miami and the response is

Good Move?

I hope he Stays healthy?

The Browns are on the right track?

WTF are you people inhaling?

What i'm smoking is basically that Cameron wanted out and was just as much of a risk to hang on to as JG. Just injury prone not 420. Seems to me the staff is trying to build a cohesive locker room of players that "play like a Brown". Means offensive coordinators as well I guess. If i'm wrong so be it. It's not like they rang me up and asked what I thought, right? Cameron was a shitty blocker and they seem to like multi-taskers...

We're talking year two.

@roycerolls said:

I'm not pissed at the FO for their inactivity in FA. I'm pissed that they tried to give a TE who doesn't want to be here and can't stay healthy 7.5 mil/ year....

Maybe just a smokescreen to get Miami to pay more money so that they have to let Clay go...?

Let's be real, Cameron wanted out. Period. Why not use the leverage to your gain?

This is the Hollywood time of year right? coulda been staged....

Gotta say i'm feeling pretty positive seeing as how the majority of the fans aren't panicking, especially since the media is all "woe is me the sky is falling" both local and national. Thank you for shedding light on the fact that our two signings don't count against the compensatory picks. That was the only piece of the puzzle I didn't get and that makes perfect sense.

I'm glad the league is looking the other way right now because while everyone is crying wolf, we may actually start seeing some real growth around here.

The QB position is still concerning but I myself have faith that they can turn it around whether its Manziel or QB "b" from such and such college...

Too many times the old adage "Defense Wins Championships" comes true. Wouldn't it be nice to see the Dawgs feared once again?

@miktoxic said:

5 years for a new regime given their guaranteed continuity used to be the plan. now if you don't make it to the playoffs in 2 you're usually shit-canned.

i think continuity with a staff you have faith in is key.

not too many new HCs and GMs just walk into a stacked team, make a couple of tweaks and win the whole thing the next year. as a matter of fact they usually inherit crap, players that don't fit their systems and by the time they get 'their' guys they are shown the door.

imagine if chip kelly doesn't win this year after basically scrapping the whole team. will laurie hang onto to that freak?

MIke Tomlin gets to take that rare cred of getting a stacked team that took HIM to the SB and gave him an undeserved ring...

Not that I don't like Pettine, because I actually believe he is the best coach we have had since the return, but MAN I really wish Cowher would have came to Cleveland...

@topdawg31 said:

thare were two bad coaching decisions on 4th down, on the road you must take the points. And the other, why the fuck did Greco snap the ball when there wasn't even a play called according to Tate, they were just supposed to try and get them to jump.

Could be that Greco had his first start at center in his entire career?

At this point the season is blown apparently anyways, might as well put in Johnny for excitement value...

Obviously they don't know how to coach/play until its 27-3 sooooo just one more score for them to go...

Whitehurst looking like Peyton against the worst D in the league....

Johnny is smarter than Tebow. He just wants to get on the field any way he can...

i definitely see what you are saying but regardless he needs to be better aware than that.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I hope for minimal change.

Well then you should be very happy with the state of this team after the last 15 years because minimal change is what they have given us...I think Pettine & Co. are about to change all of that though. Would like to see us roll with the flow. Like Miami's new unis are still them but streamlined and much more modern. KC and GB and teams like that...Oakland...only GB seems to be able to wear theirs as classic and its ok. Probably because their classic is still very nice and colorful. (not the throwbacks though DAMN those are hideous).

@dawgpound101 said:

white on white is our history at home so I am good with it...

Whats so special about our history, it's full of losing and heartbreak for the last almost 50 years. I think its time to focus forward on the future instead of clinging so hard to failure. I for one hope we get something sexy and new to wear.

Well you can gauge the ticket prices by how much they go up for the Cavs now that Lebron is back...they WILL go up.

Plus if the team is winning people will pay whatever to see them. The owner will most assuredly use that.

Actually I just think that the fans are not used to a win by game 2 of the season that's all.

@comeonman said:

Sooooooooo........ Can we celebrate after we beat the Ravens? Or do we have to win the North first

I personally think the Targaryen Princess is gonna kick are asses clear up beyond Castle Black.

So at the end of the day the NFL, hell all Pro sports is just looking like a bunch of slow dim witted thugs...The money these guys get paid is so out of control with how they still act...Gordon included...how do you piss away a career like both of these athletes are doing?