@hiwaygal said:
Why...I believe it was you.
I said that Pitt was on of the top colleges in culture and language. I also said Western PA excells in medical advancments. I never said we have the best schools. Maybe some of the medical students can find a cure for bad memory? (or maybe one for just plain stupidity?) 
I wasnt implying "die hard" steeler fans arent good fans they are great fans i am implying that the winning teams become popular and pick up tons of fairweather fans but other than that the steeler fans have never suffered an era even close to what browns fans have suffered the past 10 years but i cant wait until it happens so we can see!
Got it! 
it is bad that myron cope has passed. the terrible towel, no matter how much we hate to admit it, is a good thing- not for sports, but for children with autism. the purpose for the terrible towel started as a way to help autism research and 100% of the proceeds still go to that. it is a very admirable thing, i just wish there was another way to raise the funds.
Thats why most Steeler fans get upset when it disrespected. Poeple's ignorance of what they are actually doing is upsetting. Thanks for understanding its more then just a way to say "Go Steelers". It helps care for those with mental disablilties.
I wouldn't be surprised, people carry them everywhere game day. Go watch the NFL Films "Steeler nation" video they talk about it. It also didn't take because it's a Pittsburgh thing and will forever be a Pittsburgh thing. It's not just some towel people wave around, it's a part of Pittsburgh, it's a part of Mryon, it's a part of Super Bowl history. It's a symbol of a franchise and didn't take off anywhere else because everywhere else it's a meaningless towel. I suppose the towel is worse than all the Retards that wear dog collars and dog bone necklaces and bark in one of the Cleveland end zones?
Holding dog bones makes you tough....
Zombo said:
Oh yeah, way worse. Those guys may eat milkbones, but they wouldn't get caught dead waving a femmy hand towel at a football game.
Zombo
--I guess Pittsburgh supports the autistic but mocks the "Retards"
The NFL is launching a line of what the call "trophy towels" this offseason. I suppose not a single fan will buy one becuase its not tough enough? Maybe Quinn can wrap his little hurt finger in one while he sits on IR.
Fairweather pukesburgh fans are everywhere when they start losing their fanbase will be more localized again during the 80's the browns picked up a lot of national fairweather fans most of those are likely pittsburgh fans now believe it or not a lot of nfl fans are just that nfl fans and only like who is winning the most in recent years..If you live outside of the brownsbelt you know what i mean and prolly know at least one of these bandwagon jumpers...i have a neighbor thats went from bengals in the 80s to cowboys in the 90s to washington in the early 2k and is currently a pukesburgh fan...
I have only been and always will be a browns fan!
We still sold out every game that depressing 80's decade!
@hiwaygal said:
wait...I can't get past the part about all those squeeler fans at John Carroll. I thought Pukesburgh had the best schools???
Who was it that told you Pittsburgh had the best schools?
It has been determined by many 3rd party sources that Steeler fans have the most women fans, best traveling fans, and overall, best fan base of any sports team. I know you have pride in you own fans but don't act like Steeler Nation is inferrior to you guys. We sold out every game since 1972. We stick through some bad times.
Living in Pa, it really does sicken me how much this state revolves around the Steelers...I cant even watch the news anymore. 3 minutes of real news, then all steelers BS.
You got it wrong. Its actually three minutes of BS news and then the actual important Steeler news!
It is impossible to offend morons
Now I understand why you guys laugh it off when we make Brown jokes!
If Pukesburgh really supported their team, they wouldn't bother with school at all on Monday. We all know that when our Browns finally win...or even get to the Super Bowl, the entire city will burn down...err...shut down the day after!
You wouldn't understand the concept of even being in the Super Bowl, but I will explain to you how a city reacts after their team is in one.
Few, if any, people actually show up to work or school the next day. If a school gives a 2 hour delay then it often encourages more kids to go to school becuase they can sleep in. Parents make their kids go to school since they were alloted time to sleep in. It is an effective way to increase attendence. How exactly does calling a two hour delay to increase attendance make a school less educated?
I love how there are fans on here bashing Pittsburgh for calling a two hour delay and others bashing Pittsburgh for not closing schools all together..
Also, up to 14 inches of snow is expected in Pittsburgh between Sunday and Monday. If the forecast is right schools will be closed for a few days.
I love how you people insist Pittsburgh is a redneck city despite it being an urban city.
mz. said:
Remember what we discussed about comebacks? How yours needed major work???I grossly underestimated the task at hand.
Sorry...
Growth Hormone.
Why are people from the Retard house allowed to use the internet?
Masters said:
Funny, Hines Ward would disagree. "Cleveland and Pittsburgh is a rivalry itself". And he said that leading up to the BALT playoff game. I have to ask, how long have you actually been a Steelers fan?
Its still considered a rivalry but an abusive relationship better describes its recent history.
What makes Ward tough? He smiles a lot when things are going good and lays big hits on people who aren't looking. That doesn't necessarily make him tougher than anyone else in the league
You are right. All the media and players around the league just wish they knew as much as you. Hines Ward is the softest player in the league. When experts in the media and players who play against Ward say he is tough they really don't mean that.
Okay, when exactly did I say I didn't understand what a rivalry is? Steelers have had a heated rivalry with the Ravens the past decade. When the Steelers and Browns play, its less of a rivalry and more of an abusive relationship.
There have been many times over the years that one team has owned the other. That's what happens in rivalries. Even after us being so bad these past ten years, your team is still only a few games ahead of us in the head-to-head record so stop making it sound like it's always been so one-sided. As you said later in this post - why are you chosing to just look at recent history and not all of it?
You may have interpreted that I said that the Steelers always have been the Browns. Although, I never meant to imply that. In recent years it has been a pretty pathetic rivaly. As Steeler fans, we consider the Ravens and Pats more of rivals today becuase its always a hard hitting and close game. You Browns fans may think playing the Steelers is still a heated rivaly, but the Steelers don't.
The Steelers have NEVER asked our qbs to be a Manning or Brady becuase thats not the kind of system we run. Ben not putting up big numbers just means he is a perfect fit with the system. You not understanding thats seems to point you aren't fully aware of how the Steelers are run. You would know this though if you followed the rivavlry as long as you claimed. Bens ask to win games and thats exactly what he does!
My point is this. They have been times when you have asked him to do that and he has not done it well so your offense plays to his strengths which is managing the game. It's not right or wrong - it just may make the difference on whether or not he will be considered one of the best or H.O.F. material.
If you give Parker and Ward credit when we win, shouldn't they also be blamed for the loss? Yeah, of course, Ben has bad games but that doesn't keep you out of the HOF. Every QB has lost a big game.
Obviously, if you want to win the Super Bowl you have to have a good defense. In the 4th quarter he just goes to the next level and gets it done in the clutch. Thats all on him. Not the D, not the coach, and not the running back.
Are you telling me that you give no credit to Hines Ward or Willie Parker (for example) for assisting him?
See above.... If you watch Ben, he will often make plays when nothing is there. Yeah, someone catches the ball, but Ben is just on the next level at times.
Many have accused the Steelers have cheated but they are the same people who don't back up their claim with facts. They say in with emotion and not intellect.
Many have accused the Patriots of winning Super Bowls because of their cheating even though most experts agree that it had nothing to do with it. They even went 18-0 after being "caught". So are you answering with emotion or intellect?
I want you and the so called "experts" to answer this following question. If the Patriots didn't gain an advantage from taping singals, why do it? One good season in which you made the SB and lost doesn't count as a dynasty, does it? Teams copy great, long term success. Not one hit wonders.
They cheated in their three Super Bowl wins... Steelers are consistantly good. Take away a capable QB from the Pats and you take away any chance at the playoffs. Steelers don't put that kind of responsibility on a single player becuase its too risky. Steelers win so often becuase one player having a bad game doesn't destroy the entire game plan. Why are you chosing to just look at recent history and not all of it?
OK, now your are talking a bunch of crap. Tom Brady is more than just a capable QB - he is the best QB in the NFL and even after losing him and subbing in a QB who hadn't started a game since high school they still won 11 games.
By saying "capable" I didn't mean thats all Brady is. He is more then capable. Although, for something to function properly (like an NFL offense) they need all their parts to be capable. If Warner went to the Pats, there is no reason to not believe they still wouldn't always be a playoff contender. His style is more then capable of running the Pats offense. Although, if the Pats qb was someone like Ken Dorsey, then the Pats would probably looking at a top ten pick. Their team is build around a high powered passing offense. If you don't have a qb, then you have disaster.
Now look at the Steelers. We had some pretty good teams in the mid-90's and early part of this millenium. That success had mostly to do with the defense and running game. The Steelers back then were good but not great enough for a Super Bowl. Thats becuase when it was the QB's turn to do his part, Maddox, Kordell, and O'neil usually where not doing their job. Notice now that we have Ben we made the AFC Tittle game 3 times in 5 years. Winning two of them and even winning the Super Bowl. When Ben had to step up to the plate he is known for doing his duty. With the Steelers system you can have success while lacking a good qb. With the Steelers system, you still need a capable qb for great success. His probowl, Super Bowl appearences, and great early stats for a QB operating the Steelers system is proof Ben isn't only capable of doing his job, but winning games on his arm.
Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
Obviously, if you don't understand it then you are either really young or a bandwagon fan. Which is it?
Okay, when exactly did I say I didn't understand what a rivalry is? Steelers have had a heated rivalry with the Ravens the past decade. When the Steelers and Browns play, its less of a rivalry and more of an abusive relationship.
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good.
You don't ask him to because he isn't good at it. He is a game manager. My point is that he will never be a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (shoe-ins for the H.O.F.)
The Steelers have NEVER asked our qbs to be a Manning or Brady becuase thats not the kind of system we run. Ben not putting up big numbers just means he is a perfect fit with the system. You not understanding thats seems to point you aren't fully aware of how the Steelers are run. You would know this though if you followed the rivavlry as long as you claimed. Bens ask to win games and thats exactly what he does!
We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history.
Could having the stingiest D have helped with that? It's a hell of alot easier to come back when the other team isn't scoring.
Obviously, if you want to win the Super Bowl you have to have a good defense. In the 4th quarter he just goes to the next level and gets it done in the clutch. Thats all on him. Not the D, not the coach, and not the running back.
(Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Cheating? Don't be a hypocrite. Many have said the same about the Steelers.
Many have accused the Steelers have cheated but they are the same people who don't back up their claim with facts. They say in with emotion and not intellect.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
In the past 15 years:
Patriots - 5 trips to the SB. Won 3 times. Went 16-0.
Steelers - 3 trips to SB. Won 1 (maybe 2 - we'll see).
Both impressive but the Pats are obviously superior.
They cheated in their three Super Bowl wins... Steelers are consistantly good. Take away a capable QB from the Pats and you take away any chance at the playoffs. Steelers don't put that kind of responsibility on a single player becuase its too risky. Steelers win so often becuase one player having a bad game doesn't destroy the entire game plan. Why are you chosing to just look at recent history and not all of it>
I'll give a Madden situation and the amount of times it will occur during his SB XIII boradcast. Feel free to add your own and I will put them on this post if they are good enough.
1. Madden compares Warner and Ben to Favre 3.5 times.
2. Madden mentions Brett Favre 5.5 times.
3. Madden says the Immaculate Reception was a bad call 2.5 times.
4. Madden talks about a place we went to eat during the week 2.5 times.
5. He mentions Obama 3.5 times.
6. He has trouble saying something and must restart his sentence 10.5 times.
