Owusu-Koramoah - first steal of the draft?
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Cal calls JOK a linebacker but can't understand why his size is considered a possible weakness, and his reponse is comparing him to a player who was a safety.
Quality stuff here.
Cal calls JOK a linebacker but can't understand why his size is considered a possible weakness, and his response is comparing him to a player who was a safety.
Quality stuff here.
I agree that JOK "only" has safety size.... How will he fare in run support when teams put an offensive lineman on him- they're going to outweigh him by 100 pounds.
I'm not unhappy with the pick- but I learned my lesson long ago to not gush about a guy we just drafted... Time will tell...
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But Polamalu was a safety. Jok is supposed to be a linebacker.
you are missing the point. Jok is an amazing PLAYMAKER. He blew plays up in college.
Troy Pollyfullapupu was an amazing PLAYMAKER. He blew plays up in college.
Maybe it's just me, but I see similarities, so here's their college highlights.
watch their highlights:
you are missing the point. Jok is an amazing PLAYMAKER. He blew plays up in college.
Troy Pollyfullapupu was an amazing PLAYMAKER. He blew plays up in college.
Maybe it's just me, but I see similarities, so here's their college highlights.
watch their highlights:
You are missing the point. One was a tremendous playmaker at a position he was built to play. The other may not be built to play the position he is scheduled to play. I hope you are right. That it won’t matter.
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Sounds like a guy that shadows and tracks Lamar in the AFC divisional game
And then covers Kelce in the AFC Championship game.I will not call him a chess piece I don’t want to get gored by another poster
Sounds like a guy that shadows and tracks Lamar in the AFC divisional game
And then covers Kelce in the AFC Championship game.I will not call him a chess piece I don’t want to get gored by another poster
He's a knight. If you know much about chess the optimal use is to jump in behind the other teams pawns (OL) and wreak havoc.??
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I vote for Rook. Might be linear, but can move the length of the board.
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I vote for Rook. Might be linear, but can move the length of the board.
So can the Queen, plus the added abilities of the Bishop.?
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Queen, Rook and Knight all tough choices.
The Pawn is ruled out.
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lol.
Meanwhile...Schrager says Browns got the best value pick of the draft. And were the only team that got an A+ grade. guess who that pick is....
https://www.brownsnation.com/peter-schrager-says-browns-got-the-best-value-pick-in-entire-draft/
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and.... high odds to win Rookie of the Year:
https://www.brownsnation.com/jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-given-high-odds-to-win-rookie-of-the-year/
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My goal within the next 30 days was to go through and watch the full season for all of our draft picks, including a couple notable UDFA (Wilson, mostly)
Decided to start with JOK in the season opener against Duke as opposed to Newsome first. Kid can fly, but like any young player attempting to get the mentals of the position down, what I saw has me raising some questions that I'm hoping are answered by film as the 2020 season progresses in my viewings. Won't be posting much until I have the entire season knocked out or barring a huge off-season move.
See you boys around Memorial Day.
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My goal within the next 30 days was to go through and watch the full season for all of our draft picks, including a couple notable UDFA (Wilson, mostly)
Decided to start with JOK in the season opener against Duke as opposed to Newsome first. Kid can fly, but like any young player attempting to get the mentals of the position down, what I saw has me raising some questions that I'm hoping are answered by film as the 2020 season progresses in my viewings. Won't be posting much until I have the entire season knocked out or barring a huge off-season move.
See you boys around Memorial Day.
My goal within the next 30 days was to go through and watch the full season for all of our draft picks, including a couple notable UDFA (Wilson, mostly)
Decided to start with JOK in the season opener against Duke as opposed to Newsome first. Kid can fly, but like any young player attempting to get the mentals of the position down, what I saw has me raising some questions that I'm hoping are answered by film as the 2020 season progresses in my viewings. Won't be posting much until I have the entire season knocked out or barring a huge off-season move.
See you boys around Memorial Day.
I look forward to the first report.
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Woods didn't have the pieces to get fancy on defense. Watching Owusu play rover is going to be AWESOME !
https://www.brownsnation.com/jeremiah-owuso-koramoah-sees-himself-as-perfect-fit-with-browns/
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Woods didn't have the pieces to get fancy on defense. Watching Owusu play rover is going to be AWESOME !
https://www.brownsnation.com/jeremiah-owuso-koramoah-sees-himself-as-perfect-fit-with-browns/
Woods didn't have the pieces to get fancy on defense. Watching Owusu play rover is going to be AWESOME !
https://www.brownsnation.com/jeremiah-owuso-koramoah-sees-himself-as-perfect-fit-with-browns/
Woods relies on having his front 4 create pressure. Historically (even beyond his Cleveland days) He’s one of the least aggressive D coordinators in the league when it comes to bring pressure outside of the Front 4.
Owuso will be utilized more in coverage
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Woods didn't have the pieces to get fancy on defense. Watching Owusu play rover is going to be AWESOME !
https://www.brownsnation.com/jeremiah-owuso-koramoah-sees-himself-as-perfect-fit-with-browns/
Woods relies on having his front 4 create pressure. Historically (even beyond his Cleveland days) He’s one of the least aggressive D coordinators in the league when it comes to bring pressure outside of the Front 4.
Owuso will be utilized more in coverage
A "rover" in most defenses since 2005 is either an undersized linebacker or a safety that couldn't quite cut it back on a hash. The idea at first was to make these players the nickel WILL but with plus speed. It's been a LONG time since I've seen 3 linebackers go out and stay on the field. 2005 Ohio State, IIRC. Carp would play as an edge while Kudla and Jay Richardson would move around a good deal. Then Schlegs was the Mike while AJ was the SAM. Usually it was Malcolm Jenkins or Brandon Mitchell who would come in as the actual nickel. This first started, from my memory at least, in 2003 with Purdue and Joe Tillers "basketball on grass". Then Kstate against Al Roberson and (here's a name, Darren Sproles) Hell, tOSU defense was one of the only ones to stop Vince Young dead in his tracks at times. Point being, over time the position has become more of an everydown need because of the offensive evolution of college and ultimately NFL football. I need a 3rd man in that second level who can walk out over receivers and not be embarrassed but also has the necessary size to take on blocks and play down low. I need someone who can cover, hit, tackle AND run sideline to sideline. Good news is, these kids who were previously considered "tweeners" before, are not the hot commodity in football. And even better news, because having elite size and speed is rare, these tweener kids can be found all over.
Woods relies on having his front 4 create pressure. Historically (even beyond his Cleveland days) He’s one of the least aggressive D coordinators in the league when it comes to bring pressure outside of the Front 4.
Owuso will be utilized more in coverage
This isn't all that dissimilar from Vic Fangio. Though Notre Dame, at least through the 2 games I've watched, has used JOK as an edge or a 5th man in pressure on... I want to say 7-8 snaps so far? He's being asked to play how Peppers was his RS sophmore year. Actually, I can't even understand for the life of me this "hybrid" designation given to JOK. Through 2 season I don't believe he's taken a single snap as a safety. He's just an undersized WILL from our classic perspective.
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I’m not pouring through JOK tape but the JOK highlights you see lots of shed/slip blocks and make tackles in the backfield on running plays...some are chasing the play from the other side. He doesn’t stay blocked like most 215 pound guys trying to fly through a line of scrimmage against worthy competition too.
You see very good coverage skills- some PBUs a few INTs just generally good coverage without PI.
I see decent pass rush ability but this isn’t his game yet but he looks the part in timing/disguising his blitz well (like Peppers did) and getting to the QB with his athletic ability.
I think you will see some splash plays from him at the next level. He hits well and moves well enough.
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I’m not pouring through JOK tape but the JOK highlights you see lots of shed/slip blocks and make tackles in the backfield on running plays...some are chasing the play from the other side. He doesn’t stay blocked like most 215 pound guys trying to fly through a line of scrimmage against worthy competition too.
You see very good coverage skills- some PBUs a few INTs just generally good coverage without PI.
I see decent pass rush ability but this isn’t his game yet but he looks the part in timing/disguising his blitz well (like Peppers did) and getting to the QB with his athletic ability.
I think you will see some splash plays from him at the next level. He hits well and moves well enough.
He doesn’t stay blocked like most 215 pound guys
You see very good coverage skills- some PBUs a few INTs
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- First bold. Welp, Noah Gray, a move TE out of Duke would disagree with you there.
- Second bold. Young Jok had 1 INT his whole collegiate career.
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https://heavy.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/trade-down-select-jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-in-new-mock/
“In fact, it wouldn’t be surprising if NFL teams evaluated the 215-pounder as a safety in their defenses because the position he played at Notre Dame was more akin to slot corner in the NFL than anything else,” notes Michael Renner of PFF. “He played the overhang spot for the Irish, which meant he often had to run with slot receivers down the field. Even still, he earned [PFF] coverage grades of 77.2 (2019) and 82.3 (2020) the past two seasons.
“His flexibility could be invaluable to a creative defensive coordinator,” concludes PFF, and make him “a defense’s answer to [the] modern offense.”
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My goal within the next 30 days was to go through and watch the full season for all of our draft picks, including a couple notable UDFA (Wilson, mostly)
Decided to start with JOK in the season opener against Duke as opposed to Newsome first. Kid can fly, but like any young player attempting to get the mentals of the position down, what I saw has me raising some questions that I'm hoping are answered by film as the 2020 season progresses in my viewings. Won't be posting much until I have the entire season knocked out or barring a huge off-season move.
See you boys around Memorial Day.
Decided to start with JOK
I expect you'll see a guy that sometimes gets himself out of position by being aggressive to make a big play.
The Browns keep saying how he fits what they want their LB'ers to be. So, they want them to be strong, strong safeties. Flood the back seven with guys that can run and cover. I'm quietly hoping that we can stop the run while trying to cover receivers.
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Decided to start with JOK
I expect you'll see a guy that sometimes gets himself out of position by being aggressive to make a big play.
The Browns keep saying how he fits what they want their LB'ers to be. So, they want them to be strong, strong safeties. Flood the back seven with guys that can run and cover. I'm quietly hoping that we can stop the run while trying to cover receivers.
I expect you'll see a guy that sometimes gets himself out of position by being aggressive to make a big play.
The Browns keep saying how he fits what they want their LB'ers to be. So, they want them to be strong, strong safeties. Flood the back seven with guys that can run and cover. I'm quietly hoping that we can stop the run while trying to cover receivers.
This style of offense really pares well with an offense that can put points on the board, and jump out to leads. You do that, you make the opposing offenses one-dimensional, and they'll play into the Browns strengths.
But if the offense isn't playing with leads on the regular, teams are going to try and pound the ball down the Browns throats.
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I expect you'll see a guy that sometimes gets himself out of position by being aggressive to make a big play.
The Browns keep saying how he fits what they want their LB'ers to be. So, they want them to be strong, strong safeties. Flood the back seven with guys that can run and cover. I'm quietly hoping that we can stop the run while trying to cover receivers.
This style of offense really pares well with an offense that can put points on the board, and jump out to leads. You do that, you make the opposing offenses one-dimensional, and they'll play into the Browns strengths.
But if the offense isn't playing with leads on the regular, teams are going to try and pound the ball down the Browns throats.
This style of offense really pares well with an offense that can put points on the board, and jump out to leads. You do that, you make the opposing offenses one-dimensional, and they'll play into the Browns strengths.
But if the offense isn't playing with leads on the regular, teams are going to try and pound the ball down the Browns throats.
Sounds 2000's Colts-ish.
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This style of offense really pares well with an offense that can put points on the board, and jump out to leads. You do that, you make the opposing offenses one-dimensional, and they'll play into the Browns strengths.
But if the offense isn't playing with leads on the regular, teams are going to try and pound the ball down the Browns throats.
Sounds 2000's Colts-ish.
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