The official Terry Pluto thread

[The Gipper]

NEPTUNE?

[darren15]

Earth

[Orion]

10. So the Browns after five rounds picked two linebackers. Now there’s something I never expected to write about this draft, given how the Browns have tended to downgrade the position in the past.

...but that was one of the Browns biggest needs.  And they've shown that some of the LB'ers that they already have really don't fit their new model for the position.  (and they actually traded UP for one - sacrilege!)   I wasn't too suprised.  I expected at least one to be chosen.

[The Gipper]

VULCAN

[darren15]

Hollywood

[darren15]

Fitness

[The Gipper]

The MOON

[Westside Steve]

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/draft-is-over-so-lets-take-a-realistic-look-at-what-it-means-in-2021-terrys-talkin-browns.html?outputType=amp

[Orion]

Pluto is good.  He sees what we see and tells it like we see it.

[mjp28]

PLUTO: CLEVELAND, Ohio – Talking to myself about the Browns’ draft now that a few weeks have passed:

QUESTION: How many of the rookies will start this season?

ANSWER: Probably one.

Q: One? ONE? I thought they had a great draft.

A: Browns fans have to adjust to a shocking fact of life – they really do have a good team. There are some people who can claim the 11-5 record was fluke thanks to a weak schedule, a few breaks, etc. Let’s say they were 10-6 or even 9-7......

And they're not picking 1st anymore.  We BROWNS fans still have to adjust to that.   

[calfoxwc]

I was almost going to take a sip of coffee, and didn't. Sure enough, I laughed out loud at this one:

URANUS

[Westside Steve]

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/any-comparison-to-1981-browns-baker-a-system-qb-how-about-jadeveon-clowney-hey-terry.html?outputType=amp

[mjp28]

Comparisons.

[Westside Steve]

https://www.cleveland.com/sports-4-cle/2021/05/terry-pluto-on-otas-baker-mayfield-and-jadeveon-clowney-matt-dery-on-current-state-of-indians-on-wednesdays-sports-4-cle.html?outputType=amp

 Fair amount of bs before the video starts.

WSS

[Tour2ma]

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/are-they-legit-super-bowl-contenders-or-will-fans-be-burned-again-terrys-talkin-browns.html

Not one of Terry's best...

Getting burned is always possible, but there are degrees. It's not as if we are prohibitive favorites to "win it all".

And nothing burns like 0-16... except maybe 1-31...

[D Bone]

@tour2ma said:

Getting burned is always possible, but there are degrees. It's not as if we are prohibitive favorites to "win it all".

And nothing burns like 0-16... except maybe 1-31...

Exactly. I'm not buying into all of the hype about our defense, or any other hype by the media - and some fans, regarding anything. 

I'm expecting a winning season and will be disappointed with anything south of 9-7, but it would have to be a total shit show for me to be 'burned', and I believe in Kevin too much for that to be a fear of mine.

The Browns have lots of new faces and they'll have to dodge the injury and COVID opponents, get some lucky bounces and calls, and beat some really good teams just to live up to the lofty hype that has been bestowed to them... none of those are gimmies. 

^ So that was a long winded way of saying I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the realistic and will be wearing 100SPF all year. 

[Dutch Oven]

@tour2ma said:

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/are-they-legit-super-bowl-contenders-or-will-fans-be-burned-again-terrys-talkin-browns.html

Not one of Terry's best...

Getting burned is always possible, but there are degrees. It's not as if we are prohibitive favorites to "win it all".

And nothing burns like 0-16... except maybe 1-31...

One could argue that THIS upcoming season might be the best opportunity for the Browns, though...

Tough decisions and salary cap cuts will be in the future, with Baker, Chubbs, Teller, Ward, et al all coming up on free agency.

This upcoming season might be the highwater mark for talent surrounding Baker in his Browns starting QB career.  

[tiamat63]

@d-bone said:

Exactly. I'm not buying into all of the hype about our defense, or any other hype by the media - and some fans, regarding anything. 

I'm expecting a winning season and will be disappointed with anything south of 9-7

We all would be because that means the Browns forfeited the 17th game.

[Dutch Oven]

@d-bone said:

Exactly. I'm not buying into all of the hype about our defense, or any other hype by the media - and some fans, regarding anything. 

The Browns defense should be way more athletic than it was a year ago. The secondary should be light years ahead of the injury-riddled unit for 2020.

But, as I've mentioned numerous times, I'm baffled by all the talk of a very good to great defense, considering IMO the most important thing a defense needs to do in football today is consistently rush the QB, and I just do not see what moves have helped them do this. Clowney is not a pass rusher. Ask Falcons fans if McKinley is, and after their laughter dies down, apologize for asking. The new DTs aren't a force in rushing the passer. 

[D Bone]

@tiamat63 said:

We all would be because that means the Browns forfeited the 17th game.

Technically, 9-8 would mean a forfeit. 9-7 suggests that either I was talking about being happy with the Browns 9-7 record before the last game was played, or the 17th game was removed by the NFL if I was actually talking about 9-7 being the Browns' ending record..... and like any good author, I will leave it up to my readers to decide on their own of my true intention.