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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Just yuk it up as democracy slips through your fingers. Jan 6 was trumpy's attempt to by-pass democracy. That makes him a traitor. This was as close as we have come since the Civil War to losing our democracy to traitors (yeah that includes my own forefathers).

    Your post is completely childish, intentionally ignorant, and warpedly attention getting.

    You could try being honest for once.....

    @calfoxwc said:

    Your post is completely childish, intentionally ignorant, and warpedly attention getting.

    You could try being honest for once.....

    "Mirror mirror on the wall........why do I project on tex all the time my own foibles?"-cal-lemming (see below)

    @calfoxwc said:

    and, NO, Steve - it is NOT time to let it go. There is no "changing presidents" about it. It's about

    voter fraud, ballot harvesting (an epidemic in big ...demoquack cities), illegals voting.... (which is the only

    reason the left wants open borders)....

    and the left demands voter fraud. OF course they love democrat city ballot harvesting. They win with it.

    It is about NOT LETTING IT HAPPEN AGAIN. The lefties love voter fraud - it's what they are doing.

    But they hate Pres Trump for telling the truth.

    But their higgardly wicked witch of the east - she yells "stolen" when it was NOT, that is ignored by the left.

    they won't comment on higgardly, and stacy abrams - they won't criticize her saying it at all.

    Gosh, I though claiming that was a "danger to democray".

    no, they claim "danger to democracy" when they don't get their childish way. Seems cowardly and dishonest to me.

    Abrams: Election 'Stolen From the People of Georgia'

    David Rutz • August 12, 2019 11:00 am. SHARE. Democrat Stacey Abrams repeated her claim that her 2018 governor's race was "stolen from the people of Georgia" in an MSNBC special on voting that ...

    Jim Crow Part II is underway for all racists to rejoice over.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Just yuk it up as democracy slips through your fingers. Jan 6 was trumpy's attempt to by-pass democracy. That makes him a traitor. This was as close as we have come since the Civil War to losing our democracy to traitors (yeah that includes my own forefathers).

    Of course you are wrong.(and crazy) Demanding an accounting of the vote is perfectly constitutional especially when the honesty and integrity of the vote is in question (which it was whether or not it was investigated.) On the other hand refusing to investigate or prosecute voting impropriety because it benefits your party choice, would quite probably fall under that category. But one more time it's over. Just like in Big Time wrestling even if the referee doesn't see the foreign object that the Sheik pulls out of his trunks that Sheik still wins the match.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Of course you are wrong.(and crazy) Demanding an accounting of the vote is perfectly constitutional especially when the honesty and integrity of the vote is in question (which it was whether or not it was investigated.) On the other hand refusing to investigate or prosecute voting impropriety because it benefits your party choice, would quite probably fall under that category. But one more time it's over. Just like in Big Time wrestling even if the referee doesn't see the foreign object that the Sheik pulls out of his trunks that Sheik still wins the match.

    WSS

    Did I once say he had no right to go to court? Not ever. In fact I have been pretty much like a parrot....................."Court, court, court, court" .

    Attempted takeover on Jan. 6 was not anything close to a court hearing. In fact every court hearing denied anything close to voter fraud extensive enough to keep him in power.

    Jan. 6 was outright treason. There is no other word. And if other congressmen are shown in court to have conspired with him on it..............conspiracy to commit treason for them too.

    And why did they all do it? Because they could not prove anything in court all the way up to and through SCOTUS. 

    Now if you have more attorneys who wish to jeopardize their licenses to practice.........................them have them bring more unsupported lies into courtroom and pay those consequences.

    Otherwise just stay in your safe little ??️ with the mad queen ?.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of course you are wrong.(and crazy) Demanding an accounting of the vote is perfectly constitutional especially when the honesty and integrity of the vote is in question (which it was whether or not it was investigated.) On the other hand refusing to investigate or prosecute voting impropriety because it benefits your party choice, would quite probably fall under that category. But one more time it's over. Just like in Big Time wrestling even if the referee doesn't see the foreign object that the Sheik pulls out of his trunks that Sheik still wins the match.

    WSS

    Did I once say he had no right to go to court? Not ever. In fact I have been pretty much like a parrot....................."Court, court, court, court" .

    Attempted takeover on Jan. 6 was not anything close to a court hearing. In fact every court hearing denied anything close to voter fraud extensive enough to keep him in power.

    Jan. 6 was outright treason. There is no other word. And if other congressmen are shown in court to have conspired with him on it..............conspiracy to commit treason for them too.

    And why did they all do it? Because they could not prove anything in court all the way up to and through SCOTUS. 

    Now if you have more attorneys who wish to jeopardize their licenses to practice.........................them have them bring more unsupported lies into courtroom and pay those consequences.

    Otherwise just stay in your safe little ??️ with the mad queen ?.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Did I once say he had no right to go to court? Not ever. In fact I have been pretty much like a parrot....................."Court, court, court, court" .

    Attempted takeover on Jan. 6 was not anything close to a court hearing. In fact every court hearing denied anything close to voter fraud extensive enough to keep him in power.

    Jan. 6 was outright treason. There is no other word. And if other congressmen are shown in court to have conspired with him on it..............conspiracy to commit treason for them too.

    And why did they all do it? Because they could not prove anything in court all the way up to and through SCOTUS. 

    Now if you have more attorneys who wish to jeopardize their licenses to practice.........................them have them bring more unsupported lies into courtroom and pay those consequences.

    Otherwise just stay in your safe little ??️ with the mad queen ?.

    History will always show that you and your kind are cucks, not one alpha male amongst you.

    Just twinkie betas.  Go powder ass Tex and pretend your talking down to everyone…..

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of course you are wrong.(and crazy) Demanding an accounting of the vote is perfectly constitutional especially when the honesty and integrity of the vote is in question (which it was whether or not it was investigated.) On the other hand refusing to investigate or prosecute voting impropriety because it benefits your party choice, would quite probably fall under that category. But one more time it's over. Just like in Big Time wrestling even if the referee doesn't see the foreign object that the Sheik pulls out of his trunks that Sheik still wins the match.

    WSS

    Did I once say he had no right to go to court? Not ever. In fact I have been pretty much like a parrot....................."Court, court, court, court" .

    Attempted takeover on Jan. 6 was not anything close to a court hearing. In fact every court hearing denied anything close to voter fraud extensive enough to keep him in power.

    Jan. 6 was outright treason. There is no other word. And if other congressmen are shown in court to have conspired with him on it..............conspiracy to commit treason for them too.

    And why did they all do it? Because they could not prove anything in court all the way up to and through SCOTUS. 

    Now if you have more attorneys who wish to jeopardize their licenses to practice.........................them have them bring more unsupported lies into courtroom and pay those consequences.

    Otherwise just stay in your safe little ??️ with the mad queen ?.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Did I once say he had no right to go to court? Not ever. In fact I have been pretty much like a parrot....................."Court, court, court, court" .

    Attempted takeover on Jan. 6 was not anything close to a court hearing. In fact every court hearing denied anything close to voter fraud extensive enough to keep him in power.

    Jan. 6 was outright treason. There is no other word. And if other congressmen are shown in court to have conspired with him on it..............conspiracy to commit treason for them too.

    And why did they all do it? Because they could not prove anything in court all the way up to and through SCOTUS. 

    Now if you have more attorneys who wish to jeopardize their licenses to practice.........................them have them bring more unsupported lies into courtroom and pay those consequences.

    Otherwise just stay in your safe little ??️ with the mad queen ?.

    One more time is a protest that got out of hand. What less severe than dozens of others across the country by democrats. Demanding oversight obviously completely constitutional. But it wasn't forthcoming so people were rightfully angry. Should they have broken in? Nope but that was the extent of it.

    The election was crooked maybe not crooked enough the votes would have turned out the other way but it doesn't matter. I've said this before and I'll say it again you guys are poor winners and the only reason for this s*** is because you know Trump would beat any of the clowns you pretend to support.

    Also again the kangaroo court is going to have to find more evidence than him telling the protesters to do it peacefully and patriotically. And you really can't. I don't give a s*** what any of those people made up in their head any more than I would euthanize son of Sam's dog.

    WSS

  • WHOA .....time for a little breather here.........if you love Trump he got robbed.......if you like the democrats, the mainstream media including all the major tv ABC, NBC, CBS,  all of the courts that rules against Trump in all of his cases including the Supreme Court who would not even hear it,   the tape recorded voice of Trump saying the exact number of votes he needed them to find in the Georgia election,   plus the January 6th  speeches by Trump and others including Rudy Giuliani and more we should pursue this.

    And it wasn't just the old AOL that said this, it was from released emails : 

    ......The notes of the Dec. 27 call, released Friday by the House Oversight Committee, underscore the lengths to which Trump went to try to overturn the results of the election and to elicit the support of law enforcement officials and other government leaders in that effort. Emails released last month show that Trump and his allies in the last weeks of his presidency pressured the Justice Department to investigate unsubstantiated claims of widespread 2020 election fraud, and the department's inspector general is looking into whether department officials tried to subvert the results.......

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    These are not minor things that Trump was pressuring the Justice Department to do for him.  

    This last 4+ years has been the most contentious in the 50+ years that I have been a voter which is too bad because it is tearing friends, families and even our democracy apart at the seams.  You have a hard time to get together on almost anything without having straight party line voting....... this is bad for a healthy democracy to be productive and survive.

  • @hoorta said:

    Not 1\10th as stupid as anyone who still wants to use TDS as a defense against the obvious- you're still in love with a pathological liar.  The walls are closing in..  But do keep on enjoying your delusion....    

    https://thepatriotjournal.com/biden-mistake-tv-claims-years/

    President Biden Makes Major Mistake On Live TV – Joe Claims 150 Years Ago He Was On Senate Committee

    Did Biden Drive an 18-Wheeler?

    Biden got a firsthand look at a trucker's life on the road in 1973, but has he ever actually driven an 18-wheeler?

    • Published 30 July 2021

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    Claim

    U.S. President Joe Biden once drove an 18-wheeler.
     
    Context

    While touring a Mack Trucks facility in July 2021, U.S. President Biden said "I used to drive an 18-wheeler... I got to." The president appears to have been referring to the the time in 1973 when he rode 500 miles in a "47,000 pound cargo truck" to get a firsthand look at what it was like to be a trucker. Biden rode in this vehicle, but he did not drive it.

    Biden did lie

    Biden said in the Sept. 12, 2019, debate: “We didn’t lock people up in cages. We didn’t separate families. We didn’t do all of those things, number one. They did.” Not true. Many those pictures you saw of the cages were taken in 2014 during his time in office.

    Joe Biden has repeatedly said he was arrested with Nelson Mandela on the streets of Soweto during a trip to South Africa in the 1970s, when South Africa was under apartheid. There is absolutely no truth to this, as Biden was later forced to confess.

    Biden said “The NAACP has endorsed me every time I’ve run.” Not true. The NAACP has never endorsed any candidate.

     

    Joe Biden shouted, “I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class who had a full academic scholarship. The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay, went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class. I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school.” Every single word, every one of those claims is false.

    He got caught plagiarizing in law school and in his political career there was a huge plagiarism scandal.

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    Joe Biden

    stated on August 30, 2011 in remarks at a campaign fundraiser:

    Says U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget proposal "eliminates Medicare" in 10 years.

    By Dave Umhoefer • September 7, 2011

    Joe Biden

    stated on January 17, 2010 in a fundraiser in Florida:

    "As long as I have served . . . This is the first time every single solitary decision has required 60 senators."

    By Catharine Richert • January 22, 2010

    Joe Biden

    stated on December 31, 2007 in a campaign event in Ames, Iowa:

    "John doesn't have a record in the Senate. John's only passed four bills. They're all about post offices."

    By Adriel Bettelheim • January 7, 2008

    Joe Biden

    stated on December 31, 2007 in a campaign event in Ames, Iowa:

    "Barack Obama hasn't passed any (bills)."

    By Adriel Bettelheim • January 7, 2008

    Joe Biden

    stated on November 2, 2007 in statement on Web site:

    "In the 1990s, the Biden Crime Bill added 100,000 cops to America's streets. As a result, murder and violent crime rates went down eight years in a row."

    By Wes Allison • November 2, 2007

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 26, 2007 in Hanover, N.H.:

    "There are 300,000 babies born deformed every year in this country because of women who are alcoholics while they're carrying those children to term."

    By Angie Drobnic Holan • September 27, 2007

    Joe Biden

    stated on July 22, 2021 in a CNN town hall:

    "The cost of an automobile, it's kind of back to what it was before the pandemic."

    By Louis Jacobson • July 23, 2021

    Joe Biden

    stated on June 23, 2021 in a White House announcement:

    "The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own.”

    By Jon Greenberg • June 25, 2021

    Joe Biden

    stated on May 3, 2021 in remarks on the American Families Plan:

    For vaccine rates among Americans 65 and older, “there’s virtually no difference between white, Black, Hispanic, Asian American.”

    By Victoria Knight • May 11, 2021

    Joe Biden

    stated on March 25, 2021 in press conference:

    “We’re sending back the vast majority of the families that are coming.”

    By Miriam Valverde • March 25, 2021

    Joe Biden

    stated on February 16, 2021 in remarks at a CNN town hall:

    "If we kept (the minimum wage) indexed to inflation, people would be making $20 an hour right now.”

    By Louis Jacobson • February 18, 2021

    Joe Biden

    stated on October 25, 2020 in a "60 Minutes" interview:

    “I can send every qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion.”

    By Noah Y. Kim • October 30, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on October 15, 2020 in a town hall:

    “The boilermakers union has endorsed me because I sat down with them and went into great detail with leadership [about] exactly what I would do.”

    By Jessica Calefati • October 21, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on October 15, 2020 in an ABC town hall:

    "They eliminated the funding for community policing."

    By Louis Jacobson • October 15, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on October 10, 2020 in a comment to reporters:

    Senate Republicans' move to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in an election year is "not constitutional."

    By Bill McCarthy • October 13, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on October 5, 2020 in an NBC town hall in Miami:

    During the Obama/Biden administration “18,000 people got clemency.”

    By Amy Sherman • October 6, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech:

    “The Trump campaign asked that I release the list (of potential Supreme Court nominees) only after (Ruth Bader Ginsburg) passed away.”

    By Bill McCarthy • September 22, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech in Philadelphia:

    “There's no court session between now and the end of this election.”

    By Louis Jacobson • September 21, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 17, 2020 in a CNN town hall:

    "If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive. All the people. I'm not making this up. Just look at the data."

    By Bill McCarthy • September 18, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 9, 2020 in a speech in Warren, Mich.:

    “Military COVID infected: 118,984. Military COVID deaths: 6,114.”

    By Louis Jacobson • September 10, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 2, 2020 in a speech in Wilmington, Del.:

    Says he was the first person to call for invoking the Defense Production Act.

    By Louis Jacobson • September 4, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on July 22, 2020 in a SEIU roundtable discussion:

    “McDonald’s (makes) you all sign noncompete contracts that you cannot go across town to try to get a job at Burger King.”

    By Jon Greenberg • July 28, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on July 22, 2020 in a town hall:

    No U.S. presidents elected before Donald Trump were racist.

    By Sophie Austin • July 27, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on May 21, 2020 in a video:

    "You weren't allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual."

    By Louis Jacobson • June 29, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on May 22, 2020 in an interview on The Breakfast Club radio show:

    “The NAACP has endorsed me every time I've run.”

    By Amy Sherman • June 1, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on March 15, 2020 in a debate:

    Because the Federal Reserve recently cut interest rates to near 0%, “the Fed will be of little consequence now. They’ve already used what leverage they have.”

    By Louis Jacobson • March 18, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on March 3, 2020 in a tweeted video:

    Video shows President Donald Trump saying COVID-19 is Democrats’ “new hoax.”

    By Daniel Funke • March 15, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on February 7, 2020 in comments during the New Hampshire presidential primary debate:

    Sanders’ “Medicare for All” plan "would cost more than the entire federal budget that we spend now."

    By Shefali Luthra • February 13, 2020

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 12, 2019 in a Democratic debate:

    Says the Obama administration "didn't lock people up in cages."

    By Miriam Valverde • September 13, 2019

    Joe Biden

    stated on September 3, 2019 in an NPR interview:

    Referring to the Iraq War, "immediately, the moment it started, I came out against the war at that moment."

    By Miriam Valverde • September 5, 2019

    Joe Biden

    stated on August 7, 2019 in a campaign stop in Iowa:

    Says Donald Trump "asserted that immigrants would quote, ‘carve you up with a knife’."  

    By Jon Greenberg • August 9, 2019

    Joe Biden

    stated on May 1, 2019 in an interview:

    "I was always labeled as one of the most liberal members of the United States Congress."

    By John Kruzel • May 6, 2019

    Joe Biden

    stated on July 27, 2016 in an appearance on MSNBC:

    Says Donald Trump "is going to go out and carpet bomb" the Middle East.

    By C. Eugene Emery Jr. • August 2, 2016

    Joe Biden

    stated on April 29, 2016 in a speech at the Vatican:

    "In the United States alone we lose more than 3,000 people a day to cancer."

    By Louis Jacobson • May 9, 2016

    Joe Biden

    stated on May 8, 2012 in a speech:

    "When we took office, let me remind you, there was virtually no international pressure on Iran."

    By Eric Stirgus • May 14, 2012

    Joe Biden

    stated on April 1, 2012 in a “Face the Nation” interview:

    "General Motors is the largest corporation in the world again."

    By Becky Bowers • April 9, 2012

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?page=1&category=&ruling=false&speaker=joe-biden

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  • @hoorta said:

    YAWN.... I didn't even bother to pull up stats from The Washington Post and CNN.... Let me know if Joe ever gets in the same universe as Donnie- as far as lying goes..  

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/legacy-lies-trump-weaponized-mistruths-presidency/story?id=75335019

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trump-documented-lies-misleading-statements-231200563.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/?sh=7e4a55fd1e17

    great. a liberal asst prof at the u of oregon has wild ass claims about "lies" - which means in liberal way - "a lie is anything a conservative says that makes us cry".

       well, "biden tells 20 million lies a day" how do you like that?

    Pres Trump didn't lie about doing over 200 GOOD/GREAT things FOR AMERICA, and your asst prof political hack hasn't found out about all of obaMao commie and biden lies?

    how convenient.

    markowitless needs a hankie. "Election stolen" isn't a lie. It's an opinion. But then, lefties emote words incorrectly to fit their emotional narrative.

    and, markowitz can't name ONE good/great thing that obaMao/biden has ever done good/great for America in their entire lives.

    neither can Horota, Tex or woodpecker.

  • @hoorta said:

    YAWN.... I didn't even bother to pull up stats from The Washington Post and CNN.... Let me know if Joe ever gets in the same universe as Donnie- as far as lying goes..  

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/legacy-lies-trump-weaponized-mistruths-presidency/story?id=75335019

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trump-documented-lies-misleading-statements-231200563.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/?sh=7e4a55fd1e17

    great. a liberal asst prof at the u of oregon has wild ass claims about "lies" - which means in liberal way - "a lie is anything a conservative says that makes us cry".

       well, "biden tells 20 million lies a day" how do you like that?

    Pres Trump didn't lie about doing over 200 GOOD/GREAT things FOR AMERICA, and your asst prof political hack hasn't found out about all of obaMao commie and biden lies?

    how convenient.

    markowitless needs a hankie. "Election stolen" isn't a lie. It's an opinion. But then, lefties emote words incorrectly to fit their emotional narrative.

    and, markowitz can't name ONE good/great thing that obaMao/biden has ever done good/great for America in their entire lives.

    neither can Horota, Tex or woodpecker.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Pres Trump didn't lie about doing over 200 GOOD/GREAT things FOR AMERICA

    Can we hear that old broken record one more time? It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts.

    He's a traitor to and not a supporter of democracy. That's the bottom line regardless of any past "great things". What makes that so difficult to understand? Had Obama tried to 

    do that you'd be the first in line demanding to take him to criminal court. Admit it you hypocrite.

  • your claims are not substantiated. blather nonsense. So many of your posts prove what I say absolutely correct - you elitist lefties use words emotionally - you disregard their actual meaning. Your childish cowardly assertions have zero legitimate content to back them up.

    this is a stupid statement.

    " It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts. "

    Have a nice day and I sneeze in your direction.

  • Furthermore:

    https://redstate.com/tladuke/2021/08/01/pro-trump-political-committees-raise-a-boatload-of-money-first-half-of-2021-n419606

    Pro-Trump Political Committees Raise a Boatload of Money in First Half of 2021

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  • @calfoxwc said:

    Pres Trump didn't lie about doing over 200 GOOD/GREAT things FOR AMERICA

    Can we hear that old broken record one more time? It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts.

    He's a traitor to and not a supporter of democracy. That's the bottom line regardless of any past "great things". What makes that so difficult to understand? Had Obama tried to 

    do that you'd be the first in line demanding to take him to criminal court. Admit it you hypocrite.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Can we hear that old broken record one more time? It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts.

    He's a traitor to and not a supporter of democracy. That's the bottom line regardless of any past "great things". What makes that so difficult to understand? Had Obama tried to 

    do that you'd be the first in line demanding to take him to criminal court. Admit it you hypocrite.

    The thing is Obama never lost a Presidential election 

  • As a Trump supporter, of course I believe the election was "rigged" but...I'm with the o.p. on this. It's time to let it go. I think we have to begin to accept the fact that many of the recent elections were also stolen. I'm convinced that the republicans stole the election with G.W. over Gore, with all the crap that went on with that election. For me, it's not about Democrat vs. Republican. I hate the radicals on either side. I would never declare myself to either party. This is all about freedom and democracy vs. socialism. There are some heated discussions going on here, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing is, not everyone wants the same America. While I hate to see this country being changed with all the different foreigners claiming rights to a land that was built over the last 200+ years with hard work and patriotism, others embrace the changes. It's probably my generation who is at fault here. We saw it coming, but ignored it. We were too busy dropping acid, smoking weed, and experiencing the '60's and '70's to organize a revolution. We've let Uncle Sam become the King...the Ruler... All that garbage about voting and patriotism was valid back then. There is no reason to vote any more. "They" are going to elect whoever is best for the government....not the people. It's a shame...our grand kids and their kids will never know what a great country this once was.

  • your claims are not substantiated. blather nonsense. So many of your posts prove what I say absolutely correct - you elitist lefties use words emotionally - you disregard their actual meaning. Your childish cowardly assertions have zero legitimate content to back them up.

    this is a stupid statement.

    " It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts. "

    Have a nice day and I sneeze in your direction.

    @calfoxwc said:

    your claims are not substantiated. blather nonsense. So many of your posts prove what I say absolutely correct - you elitist lefties use words emotionally - you disregard their actual meaning. Your childish cowardly assertions have zero legitimate content to back them up.

    this is a stupid statement.

    " It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts. "

    Have a nice day and I sneeze in your direction.

    My claims are clearly more substantiated than the extremism you post here multiple times a day Mr. Redstate. You are so emotionally attached to a pathological liar that you would not know truths from falsehoods even with a cheat sheet to tell you which is which. Your childish inaccurate information is just that, naively supportive of a traitor and totally lacking accuracy. You'd think he never said he would be right there with them at the Capitol which he also clearly orchestrated through minions. How could he walk that far anyway with fake bone spurs hampering his promised presence? He sacrificed the liberty of his followers there who now are facing the consequences for his behavior. They all say he sent them as a part of their defense.

  • As a Trump supporter, of course I believe the election was "rigged" but...I'm with the o.p. on this. It's time to let it go. I think we have to begin to accept the fact that many of the recent elections were also stolen. I'm convinced that the republicans stole the election with G.W. over Gore, with all the crap that went on with that election. For me, it's not about Democrat vs. Republican. I hate the radicals on either side. I would never declare myself to either party. This is all about freedom and democracy vs. socialism. There are some heated discussions going on here, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing is, not everyone wants the same America. While I hate to see this country being changed with all the different foreigners claiming rights to a land that was built over the last 200+ years with hard work and patriotism, others embrace the changes. It's probably my generation who is at fault here. We saw it coming, but ignored it. We were too busy dropping acid, smoking weed, and experiencing the '60's and '70's to organize a revolution. We've let Uncle Sam become the King...the Ruler... All that garbage about voting and patriotism was valid back then. There is no reason to vote any more. "They" are going to elect whoever is best for the government....not the people. It's a shame...our grand kids and their kids will never know what a great country this once was.

    @lodilobo said:

    As a Trump supporter, of course I believe the election was "rigged" but...I'm with the o.p. on this. It's time to let it go. I think we have to begin to accept the fact that many of the recent elections were also stolen. I'm convinced that the republicans stole the election with G.W. over Gore, with all the crap that went on with that election. For me, it's not about Democrat vs. Republican. I hate the radicals on either side. I would never declare myself to either party. This is all about freedom and democracy vs. socialism. There are some heated discussions going on here, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing is, not everyone wants the same America. While I hate to see this country being changed with all the different foreigners claiming rights to a land that was built over the last 200+ years with hard work and patriotism, others embrace the changes. It's probably my generation who is at fault here. We saw it coming, but ignored it. We were too busy dropping acid, smoking weed, and experiencing the '60's and '70's to organize a revolution. We've let Uncle Sam become the King...the Ruler... All that garbage about voting and patriotism was valid back then. There is no reason to vote any more. "They" are going to elect whoever is best for the government....not the people. It's a shame...our grand kids and their kids will never know what a great country this once was.

    Yes that's probably the case. I mean love-him-or-hate-him Trump was the first Outsider that got the nomination in anybody's memory. That's why status-quo Republicans and Democrats hate him.

    I mean seriously Jeb Bush? Hillary?

    Joe Biden for that matter

    WSS

  • @calfoxwc said:

    your claims are not substantiated. blather nonsense. So many of your posts prove what I say absolutely correct - you elitist lefties use words emotionally - you disregard their actual meaning. Your childish cowardly assertions have zero legitimate content to back them up.

    this is a stupid statement.

    " It makes zero difference when a president tries to retain power by force instead of by election or through the courts. "

    Have a nice day and I sneeze in your direction.

    My claims are clearly more substantiated than the extremism you post here multiple times a day Mr. Redstate. You are so emotionally attached to a pathological liar that you would not know truths from falsehoods even with a cheat sheet to tell you which is which. Your childish inaccurate information is just that, naively supportive of a traitor and totally lacking accuracy. You'd think he never said he would be right there with them at the Capitol which he also clearly orchestrated through minions. How could he walk that far anyway with fake bone spurs hampering his promised presence? He sacrificed the liberty of his followers there who now are facing the consequences for his behavior. They all say he sent them as a part of their defense.

    @texasag1969 said:

    My claims are clearly more substantiated than the extremism you post here multiple times a day Mr. Redstate. You are so emotionally attached to a pathological liar that you would not know truths from falsehoods even with a cheat sheet to tell you which is which. Your childish inaccurate information is just that, naively supportive of a traitor and totally lacking accuracy. You'd think he never said he would be right there with them at the Capitol which he also clearly orchestrated through minions. How could he walk that far anyway with fake bone spurs hampering his promised presence? He sacrificed the liberty of his followers there who now are facing the consequences for his behavior. They all say he sent them as a part of their defense.

    The reason I can't take you seriously is because you've been screaming traitor for the last four years. You really are nuts. Or stupid and I'm guessing you aren't stupid.

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    My claims are clearly more substantiated than the extremism you post here multiple times a day Mr. Redstate. You are so emotionally attached to a pathological liar that you would not know truths from falsehoods even with a cheat sheet to tell you which is which. Your childish inaccurate information is just that, naively supportive of a traitor and totally lacking accuracy. You'd think he never said he would be right there with them at the Capitol which he also clearly orchestrated through minions. How could he walk that far anyway with fake bone spurs hampering his promised presence? He sacrificed the liberty of his followers there who now are facing the consequences for his behavior. They all say he sent them as a part of their defense.

    The reason I can't take you seriously is because you've been screaming traitor for the last four years. You really are nuts. Or stupid and I'm guessing you aren't stupid.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The reason I can't take you seriously is because you've been screaming traitor for the last four years. You really are nuts. Or stupid and I'm guessing you aren't stupid.

    WSS

    Funny that a leak from the Kremlin saying he was Kopromat has recently come to light. That story isn't over yet either. Helsinki happened despite claims to the contrary. Apparently there are people at Forbes who are nuts too in your ??️ world. I don't think you are stupid (or nuts) either Steve, but you are misled.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/07/15/trump-kompromat-claimed-report-says-kremlin-documents-show-putin-conspiring-for-billionaire/?sh=505451a6b1ea