Mahomes thinks Chiefs can go 20-0

gumby73

How's Chiefs Kingdom?.. Kink #1..

It’s just that under head coach Andy Reid, the Chiefs have seldom faced this particular problem to begin a season — and this is hardly the first time since his arrival where significant parts of the Week 1 line were unsettled before training camp has begun.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/6/29/22555567/pff-calls-chiefs-offensive-line-chemistry-a-major-concern-for-2021

LT	57	Brown, Orlando T/Bal	00	Miller, Wyatt SF21
LG	62	Thuney, Joe U/NE	73	Allegretti, Nick 19/7	65	Smith, Trey 21/6	79	Durant, Yasir CF20
C	66	Blythe, Austin U/LAR	52	Humphrey, Creed 21/2	64	Williams, Darryl CF20
RG	69	LONG, KYLE SF21	76	DUVERNAY-TARDIF, LAURENT 14/6	77	Wylie, Andrew SF17
RT	75	REMMERS, MIKE U/NYG	67	Niang, Lucas 20/3	70	Wanogho, Prince Tega SF21

PFF ranks the KC OL as a fair #7.. A Browns defensive line lack of chemistry just waiting to happen...

defensive Edit---All of that likely contributes to why the Kansas City Chiefs are planning to take one of their best interior defensive players, Chris Jones, and move him out on the edge more this upcoming season.

75 days away & Good Bye June....

Pat Mahomo

The starting O line for KC is much more likely to be

LT Brown

LG Thuney

C Humphrey

RG T. Smith

RT. Niang.

It will take some time to get chemistry whoever they roll with, but the talent upgrade across the board will outweigh that 10 fold.

This line is going to be outstanding. Trey Smith will prove to be the steal of the entire draft.

Tour2ma

Pat better be wearing track shoes early on...

As for draft steals... I do not think OGs are eligible for that. Although Bitonio came close for us...

Smith has been getting first-round buzz ever since joining Tennessee. He played three different positions competently as a freshman before kicking out to left tackle full-time as a sophomore and looking out of place with a 62.9 overall grade. Smith has continuously battled blood clots in his lungs, which have cost him games and practice time. The next step toward dominance that was once promised never came, as he peaked with a 78.6 overall grade in 2019. He'll flash some monster blocks, and his pop on contact is about as good as it gets in the class. After four years, though, consistency is still the issue.

I'll see your Smith and raise you a Newsome and a JOK...

And yes, I know string bets are not allowed.

gumby73

@pat-mahomo said:

The starting O line for KC is much more likely to be

LT Brown

LG Thuney

C Humphrey

RG T. Smith

RT. Niang.

This line is going to be outstanding. Trey Smith will prove to be the steal of the entire draft.

From the day Trey Smith left the Senior Bowl. There was noway I saw him sitting until the 6th round.. His non-Combine medicals..Cost him far more than JOK's did.

Trey's only taken 2 snaps at your projected RG spot..https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/trey-smith/62960/draft-profile makes me wonder if his anchor foot (clots) becomes a issue moving him to the right side? ?

Wait ! Non-KC sports trivia time...Name a Cleveland Brown nor non-star that could get this lucky? https://fox4kc.com/sports/arraignment-and-plea-hearing-scheduled-for-chiefs-frank-clark/

It starts with.. KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark will face a judge in Los Angeles County in the middle of the NFL season.

What will the NfL Or Andy Reid ponder?

jiggins7919

I doubt undefeated, but I can see why he'd think that. I'm betting on the Chiefs to win week 1, that's for sure. Week 1, on the road, AT Kansas City? And we haven't won an opener since 'Nam? Yeah, give me all that action.

mjp28

@jiggins7919 said:

I doubt undefeated, but I can see why he'd think that. I'm betting on the Chiefs to win week 1, that's for sure. Week 1, on the road, AT Kansas City? And we haven't won an opener since 'Nam? Yeah, give me all that action.

Hey jigs what's happening in sunny north Florida ? And no doubt the 4 pm CLE/KC game will be a premier NFL game with Cleveland +6.5 underdogs and a tough matchup in KC. I think the BROWNS' might cover but a win will be tough.

And PIT +6.5 in BUF and the rest of WEEK 1 Only BAL -4 in Vegas is an AFCN favorite. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=1139

Oh and the money line too.

jiggins7919

Hey there! Things are going pretty well down here, just hotter than Hades. I'm extremely excited for the season, although to me it kind of feels a bit like 2019. Very high expectations, darlings of the media...kind of scares me. Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe this is the best team we've had in 30 years, but something is gnawing at me....

Perhaps it's the decades of losing, crazy bad things happening, or whatever else, but I don't think we're going to win 13-14 games like many fans I speak to believe. Our schedule is NOT fun, mostly because our division is murderous. The Bengals gave us FITS last year, the Ravens are absolutely stout, and I don't believe for ONE second the Steelers will suck.

Does that mean we can't make the playoffs, win the division, or even the Superbowl? Of course not. I just don't believe we're going to cruise whatsoever. Winning in the NFL is just so damn difficult, and I need to see a LOT from our new defense. When I go back and watch video from last year, the amount of times our defense couldn't seal the deal was staggering.

Alas, I'm excited. BEYOND excited. We are extremely talented with a terrific coach. I adore so many of our players and for the first time in basically my adult life, we're a serious threat to any team in the league. Do I wish we played the damn Texans first? Yeah, I do. God forbid we get an effing layup week 1. But hey, the Chiefs aren't invulnerable, and if anyone can beat them, it might be us.

Pat Mahomo

You guys aren't going to enjoy week 1. The KC Line is going to be good. the D is better.

nickers

@pat-mahomo said:

You guys aren't going to enjoy week 1. The KC Line is going to be good. the D is better.

The Browns will crush them!... Watch!

Dutch Oven

Zombo said:

Oh, Mahomo.

Offensive lines need to gel. You've got 5 new guys playing together, it may very well end up being a good bunch, but it will take some time.

Take Cleveland, for example. They have no new faces on the OL, because they were the best OL in the NFL last year. And they have the best OL coach in the League .

As for your other comment "the D is better" ... very insightful.... but how and why?

Z

On the other hand, defenses need time to gel, and the Browns have an almost complete overhaul of theirs.

This should be an intriguing matchup, but one I wish was later in the season.

EastSideDawg

@pat-mahomo said:

You guys aren't going to enjoy week 1. The KC Line is going to be good. the D is better.

so what are you going to do when Garrett and Clowney are flying upfield and mahomes keeps bailing the pocket and refuses to step up ?

SdBacker80

Not trying to feed the troll here…but I thought the Chiefs did some pretty decent run blocking last night.

I really like their rookie center.

Now pass blocking I think they were a tad more susceptible. Not sacks just Mahomes getting flushed out and I saw preseason vanilla fronts were happening and blitz packages happening last night. Woods has got to dial it up and our bookends need get there week 1.

I anticipate a vanilla game plan from the chiefs. Dink and dunk short game giving the new line a chance and I really expect a 50/50 run:pass gameplan and expect that from them early as their line gels. We are going to have to make sure we stop the run.

tiamat63

Both Olines looked up and down.

Ibleedbrown

@tiamat63 said:

Both Olines looked up and down.

tiamat63

@ibleedbrown said:

..... God I hate you.

jcam222

We will test that Chiefs O line early and often. Greatly improved secondary along with Garrett, Clowney and JOK might just feast on some Mahomes. They will be in his head for sure.

Pat Mahomo

Zombo asked me to elaborate further about KC's D and why it should be better.

In no particular order.

KC signed Jarran Reed. This has allowed Chris Jones to move to DE on most downs, and then back inside on obvious passing downs. That has looked good in preseason. KC has also seen the emergence of Tershawn Wharton at DT. Keep that name in mind. Of course Frank Clark situation isn't a plus....but as that stands now, he'll be playing week 1.

The emergence of LB Willie Gay. Gay was KC's 2nd rounder last year. Had a lot of first round grades, but he was the guy who got in trouble for punching his own QB at Miss ST. as some of you may recall. The covid/no camp/no offseason slowed him up as Spagnuolo's D is somewhat complicated, but he's up to speed now and is making plays and shows up in coverage...something KC has lacked at LB. He is a substantial upgrade over Wilson, who started there last year.

In the Secondary, you've probably heard of La Jarious Sneed...he's good and will play more. KC also traded to get Mike Hughes at CB, former 1st round draft pick from the Vikings and last year we picked up D'andre Baker, former Giants 1st rounder. Both, have looked good...especially Hughes, who may start.

The most important thing to note here is that Jones is going to be move around, and there is more depth on the D line...and the LB position is faster and offers more coverage ability. I'm not telling you it's a leaps and bounds type improvement..KC had a decent D last year....it will be a little better than last years unit.

I'd continue to point out that the O'line is going to be the story of the Chiefs season....being able to run and having teams know we can run....will be HUGE. Don't be surprised if KC rolls out a lot of two TE, or RB/FB sets and do wild and crazy things out of those to great effect.

I am most definitely a biased Chiefs homer, but I am not beyond being objective about my team. (losing Bashaud Breeland at CB does suck and Clarks stupid ass doesn't help) ....I'm not trying to be an A hole....but Cleveland isn't going to have a good time week 1.

Keep in Mind Andy Ried with Mahomes is undefeated in September. He has them ready to go when it's time to go.

tiamat63

@pat-mahomo said:

Keep in Mind Andy Ried with Mahomes is undefeated in September. He has them ready to go when it's time to go.

I hear a lot of that from *ichigan fans over the last 10 years or so. Rather win in September or in January?

As for Chris Jones being moved around - I'm watching the game right now. Not necessarily seeing this as a net positive for your team on early downs. You've taken your best interior disruptor and parked him 4i. He isn't winning the edge, and you're allowing Baker interior pocket integrity. So whoever your weakside edge is, Clark or otherwise, is going to get a heavy dose to that side or ISO to that replacement 3tech. Also shows something the Cards went at early in that pre-season game then sort of pocketed for another time - the smoke and flanker screens to that side. Betting on a big boy not being fast enough (not saying that Chris Jones isn't a good athlete for his size) but hoping he can get in and help clean up with pursuit after getting off the line. That's a tall order for anyone 290lbs. On top of doing what CLE did last time - calling the game in reverse and passing to run.

You're also not considering, despite your claimed "objectiveness" that Cleveland went toe to toe with KC in their house before Mahomes was out. This is also ignoring, or simply looking at your team and matchup in a vacuum, that the Browns have made improvements both offensively but most obviously defensively as well. Of course KC has the offense to exploit just about any defensive personnel. But how do you figure we go from slug fest to blow out in the course of one off-season?

It would take a series of turnovers and poor execution for this to not somehow end up being a great game.

Try again.

Pat Mahomo

Wow...you guys sure remember that game alot differently the most people.

KC was up 19-3 with 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter wich is about when Mahomes went out. KC was up 16-3 when the endzone fumble thing happend.

KC finished with 438 total yards to Clevelands 308. KC also outrushed Cleveland 123 to 112.... Cleveland was also 3 for 3 on 4th down ...and still couldn't generate any yards.

That was "toe to toe"?

nickers

@pat-mahomo said:

Wow...you guys sure remember that game alot differently the most people.

KC was up 19-3 with 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter wich is about when Mahomes went out. KC was up 16-3 when the endzone fumble thing happend.

KC finished with 438 total yards to Clevelands 308. KC also outrushed Cleveland 123 to 112.... Cleveland was also 3 for 3 on 4th down ...and still couldn't generate any yards.

That was "toe to toe"?

Can't wait til the Browns kick KC's ass in 4 weeks.. Let's see then if you're man enough to come back and talk shit.. or eat crow.. You are just like those ass hat stooler and rat bird fans... Blinded by homerism and sheer stupidity.... I guess you never saw 'Any given Sunday"