Mahomes thinks Chiefs can go 20-0
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Regarding Jones.....he IS athletic enough and fast enough to make it work on the outside. He will be out at end quite a bit, but not always. We don't lose anything when he's there. He wouldn't be there if we hadn't signed Jarran Reed....KC also feels the depth at DT is strong so Jones at End is going to be a thing. It's looked good so far. PS...the Cardinals went 3 and out in their first 6 or so drives with their 1's vs our 1's. KC's defense will be improved from last year when it was decent and good VS the pass. this year will be better. its a better overall group.
Also, I am not oblivous to the fact that Cleveland has the leagues best O-line. I am not trying to say Cleveland sucks. Far from it. You should win your divison, win a lot of games and very well could meet us again in the playoffs. For as good and promising as your team is....I am just saying KC is still better and week 1, AT KC is going to be a rough day.
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Zombo said:
So Vegas thinks you have a 3 point better team.
Seeing as you represented the AFC in the Super Bowl the last two years and beat us in the playoffs last year, that seems fair.
You seem like that guy that starts talking loud when he gets nervous.
Z
It's all good Z....looking forward to that week 1 game.....should be interesting.
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We’ve arrived when the back to back AFC champs and their spokesperson Pat Mahomo arrive on the Board and is talking up the game 16 days away from kickoff.
But The Browns aren’t here to arrive in Week 1..week 8…week 12….week 17…it is survive advance…win a division be one better than the team just to the southEast, our cross state rival and the team with a crab problem…stay healthy…get hot at the right time…have a little luck…have some career years.
I don’t know what to expect.
But….
It is hard to go 20-0 when you start 0-1
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Vegas has this game at KC -6.
Only SF At Detroit (Det +7.5)
and Chi At Rams (LA +7)
Have bigger spreads.
Vegas thinks the difference in talent between KC and Cleveland is about the same as the difference in talent between Chi and the Rams. I don't think you fine Browns fans appreciate just how loaded KC is.....and like most fan bases, you overestimate your own dudes. ....I don't do that....Vegas and I clearly think very highly of the Chiefs.
Week 1 won't be fun for you.
Vegas has this game at KC -6.
Only SF At Detroit (Det +7.5)
and Chi At Rams (LA +7)
Have bigger spreads.
Vegas thinks the difference in talent between KC and Cleveland is about the same as the difference in talent between Chi and the Rams. I don't think you fine Browns fans appreciate just how loaded KC is.....and like most fan bases, you overestimate your own dudes. ....I don't do that....Vegas and I clearly think very highly of the Chiefs.
Week 1 won't be fun for you.
Betting odds mean nothing... Vegas thinks a lot of uneducated bettors are going to take the Chiefs to cover based on reputation. Let me remind you the Browns were 5.5 point dogs last year in the playoff game against the Steelers.
Sure, the Chiefs have a great team. But with a seriously upgraded defense- so do the Browns. It's been a long, long time since I was able to say that.
One thing the Chieftains have going for them is the Browns unrivaled ongoing record streak of opening game losses.
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Regarding Jones.....he IS athletic enough and fast enough to make it work on the outside. He will be out at end quite a bit, but not always. We don't lose anything when he's there. He wouldn't be there if we hadn't signed Jarran Reed....KC also feels the depth at DT is strong so Jones at End is going to be a thing. It's looked good so far. PS...the Cardinals went 3 and out in their first 6 or so drives with their 1's vs our 1's. KC's defense will be improved from last year when it was decent and good VS the pass. this year will be better. its a better overall group.
Also, I am not oblivous to the fact that Cleveland has the leagues best O-line. I am not trying to say Cleveland sucks. Far from it. You should win your divison, win a lot of games and very well could meet us again in the playoffs. For as good and promising as your team is....I am just saying KC is still better and week 1, AT KC is going to be a rough day.
Regarding Jones.....he IS athletic enough and fast enough to make it work on the outside. He will be out at end quite a bit, but not always. We don't lose anything when he's there. He wouldn't be there if we hadn't signed Jarran Reed....KC also feels the depth at DT is strong so Jones at End is going to be a thing. It's looked good so far. PS...the Cardinals went 3 and out in their first 6 or so drives with their 1's vs our 1's. KC's defense will be improved from last year when it was decent and good VS the pass. this year will be better. its a better overall group.
Also, I am not oblivous to the fact that Cleveland has the leagues best O-line.
Your missing the fact, Browns Backs,TE's & WR's team block better than a preseason Zona... Jones will see this coming from the edge too..KC preseason week 1 at 49'ers.. come prepared for that...
preseason-Zona, ain't close to 49'ers or Browns, when it comes to setting up offensive unit blocking..
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Vs Minnesoata tonight. KC's 1's on O, vs Min 1's on D. 2 drives, 2 TD.
Minny 1's on O VS KC 1's on D. 2 drives, 1 FG and 1 3 and out.
KC looked strong. probably a better team than the teams that made the last 2 super bowls.
Not going to be a good day for the Browns on opening day. You'll need 35+ to pull the upset.
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Vs Minnesoata tonight. KC's 1's on O, vs Min 1's on D. 2 drives, 2 TD.
Minny 1's on O VS KC 1's on D. 2 drives, 1 FG and 1 3 and out.
KC looked strong. probably a better team than the teams that made the last 2 super bowls.
Not going to be a good day for the Browns on opening day. You'll need 35+ to pull the upset.
Vs Minnesoata tonight. KC's 1's on O, vs Min 1's on D. 2 drives, 2 TD.
Minny 1's on O VS KC 1's on D. 2 drives, 1 FG and 1 3 and out.
KC looked strong. probably a better team than the teams that made the last 2 super bowls.
Not going to be a good day for the Browns on opening day. You'll need 35+ to pull the upset.
The Chiefs might very well be very, very good this season. They might even blow the doors off the Browns in Week 1.
But you look like a boob using a preseason game to try and push this agenda.
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Just a couple of starters played zero snaps for Minnesota in game 3. This took me all of 9 seconds to find.
O : Dalvin Cook, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen
D : Danielle Hunter, Patrick Peterson, Harrison Smith, Eric Kendricks, Anthony Barr
Surely none of these players would have had any impact on the game with KC. I agree with all internet conclusions!
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Vs Minnesoata tonight. KC's 1's on O, vs Min 1's on D. 2 drives, 2 TD.
Minny 1's on O VS KC 1's on D. 2 drives, 1 FG and 1 3 and out.
KC looked strong. probably a better team than the teams that made the last 2 super bowls.
Not going to be a good day for the Browns on opening day. You'll need 35+ to pull the upset.
Vs Minnesoata tonight. KC's 1's on O, vs Min 1's on D. 2 drives, 2 TD.
Minny 1's on O VS KC 1's on D. 2 drives, 1 FG and 1 3 and out.
KC looked strong. probably a better team than the teams that made the last 2 super bowls.
Not going to be a good day for the Browns on opening day. You'll need 35+ to pull the upset.
You look stupid right now. And your setting yourself up to look really stupid if the browns win week 1.
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This is the best thing I've ever seen. LOL
You guys went 5-3 in those 8 games including a loss to the JETS. You guys also played a collection of some of the worst defenses over that 8 games. ....and of course, in a playoff game VS Kc, in wich Mahomes left early in the third quarter...you guys generated 17 points, and 300 total yards of offense.
Baker, in his 2 starts VS Mahomes in the NFL is 0-2
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The Chiefs aren’t going 1-0, let alone 20
The Chiefs aren’t going 1-0, let alone 20
I love the confidence. But do you really feel this way? I wouldn't expect us to beat possibly the best team with perhaps a Hall of Fame coach. Chiefs WILL be ready...hopefully we will too!
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This is the best thing I've ever seen. LOL
You guys went 5-3 in those 8 games including a loss to the JETS. You guys also played a collection of some of the worst defenses over that 8 games. ....and of course, in a playoff game VS Kc, in wich Mahomes left early in the third quarter...you guys generated 17 points, and 300 total yards of offense.
Baker, in his 2 starts VS Mahomes in the NFL is 0-2
This is the best thing I've ever seen. LOL
You guys went 5-3 in those 8 games including a loss to the JETS. You guys also played a collection of some of the worst defenses over that 8 games. ....and of course, in a playoff game VS Kc, in wich Mahomes left early in the third quarter...you guys generated 17 points, and 300 total yards of offense.
Baker, in his 2 starts VS Mahomes in the NFL is 0-2
Well, looking back at the 2020 season, the Browns were #22 in points allowed per game. The only way we were beating teams was usually by Baker putting up 40 points. Browns 2021 defense much improved. Top draft picks Williams and Delpit didn't play a down last year .The defensive secondary was a mess. Garrett missed time because of covid, and when he came back he was far from 100%. OBJ lost 1\2 the season because of that ACL.
As they say in investing RE: Baker- Mahomes... past performance is no indicator of future success...
The one thing the Chiefs have going for them is the Browns unrivaled string of suckage in openers. Oh fer since 2005, with one tie.
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This will be a different game.
The Browns were coming off of a MASSIVE emotional high after beating Pitt. They had end of season COVID issues (essentially a large number of guys coming back from it: including the HC). The defensive personnel for Cleveland completely different. The offense adds OBJ.
Last year I wanted no part of a shootout with KC.
Shocking to say but I see KC…easing this young offensive line in (it is a much better unit but it’s gonna take time) and sticking to bread and butter run concepts and just taking a few shots downfield and employing the East and west quick pass game for the most part. They want nothing to do with Myles vs Niang. They don’t know what looks this new defense will give to their young talented Center.
We have to be prepared to play in a smaller box and stop the run and tackle WR/Backs/TE on the perimeter.
Im going to be very surprised if we don’t play well.
Prediction coming next week…
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Well... had they won today (TN blew them out), to go 20-0 it could have been with next Man up at QB...
Knee to head apparently... shades of our playoff game with them.
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