Tale of the Tape - Browns vs Chiefs
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Our terrible performance record for opening day is no secret. We finally have a team that can win right out of the gate, and we have to draw the AFC Champs. But ya know what? These new Browns, Baker, Chubb, Stef, and all...they don't much care about negative karma. All they've done since they've been here is end negative streaks. The new reality is, the Chiefs are just in the way of the next negative to fall by the wayside.
Our terrible performance record for opening day is no secret. We finally have a team that can win right out of the gate, and we have to draw the AFC Champs. But ya know what? These new Browns, Baker, Chubb, Stef, and all...they don't much care about negative karma. All they've done since they've been here is end negative streaks. The new reality is, the Chiefs are just in the way of the next negative to fall by the wayside.
I said exactly the same thing. We finally have a legit squad with the reigning coach of the year and we probably face off with the best team in the league...AT their house. Not just any house, the loudest place on earth.
They're not immortal, as we all saw during the Super Bowl. But they're very good and they're going to be pissed off. We need to remember that the season is a marathon, not a sprint. I fully expect to lose this game and that's not a death sentence. Think about it, what other team would you predict to come into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs on opening day? Nobody, right?
Let's hope for a good game and a chance to squeak one out in the 4th. Before Mahomes went out with injury, we couldn't stop them at ALL. It's going to be a tough game, people. But we can always hope!
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we couldn't stop them because of secondary play. and our lb's couldn't cover Kelce all game long. Kelce alone had 8 receptions for 109 yards, one TD.
safety play...lacking. LB play...lacking. Hill was 8 completions for 110 yards.
Pass defense is fixed now. I don't expect Mahomes will be able to play easy pitch and catch with those two again.
and the Browns offense will be far more able to fool defenses - more tricks up their sleeve. It would be great if Schwartz can make a bit of a difference here and there. I'll be looking for a TD throw to Schwartz on the crossing patterns the first game.
Too many teams have been able to throw against the Browns weak pass defense for too long.
Not any more I don't think, barring injuries. We'll see.
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the call hurt no doubt…
But some other problems…
We had personnel issues in the back 7 that were exploited by KC.I thought we really missed a guy like OBJ in this one too- a WR that could loosen up the Defense. We had their back 7 pressing our WRs and Baker needed to be perfect.
We also made IMO a tactical error by not speeding the game up in the second half going no huddle and trying to get more possessions AFTER Mahomes went down.
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the call hurt no doubt…
But some other problems…
We had personnel issues in the back 7 that were exploited by KC.I thought we really missed a guy like OBJ in this one too- a WR that could loosen up the Defense. We had their back 7 pressing our WRs and Baker needed to be perfect.
We also made IMO a tactical error by not speeding the game up in the second half going no huddle and trying to get more possessions AFTER Mahomes went down.
the call hurt no doubt…
But some other problems…
We had personnel issues in the back 7 that were exploited by KC.I thought we really missed a guy like OBJ in this one too- a WR that could loosen up the Defense. We had their back 7 pressing our WRs and Baker needed to be perfect.
We also made IMO a tactical error by not speeding the game up in the second half going no huddle and trying to get more possessions AFTER Mahomes went down.
? Not only that.. We got too conservative toward the end...
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we couldn't stop them because of secondary play. and our lb's couldn't cover Kelce all game long. Kelce alone had 8 receptions for 109 yards, one TD.
safety play...lacking. LB play...lacking. Hill was 8 completions for 110 yards.
Pass defense is fixed now. I don't expect Mahomes will be able to play easy pitch and catch with those two again.
and the Browns offense will be far more able to fool defenses - more tricks up their sleeve. It would be great if Schwartz can make a bit of a difference here and there. I'll be looking for a TD throw to Schwartz on the crossing patterns the first game.
Too many teams have been able to throw against the Browns weak pass defense for too long.
Not any more I don't think, barring injuries. We'll see.
we couldn't stop them because of secondary play. and our lb's couldn't cover Kelce all game long. Kelce alone had 8 receptions for 109 yards, one TD.
safety play...lacking. LB play...lacking. Hill was 8 completions for 110 yards.
Pass defense is fixed now. I don't expect Mahomes will be able to play easy pitch and catch with those two again.
and the Browns offense will be far more able to fool defenses - more tricks up their sleeve. It would be great if Schwartz can make a bit of a difference here and there. I'll be looking for a TD throw to Schwartz on the crossing patterns the first game.
Too many teams have been able to throw against the Browns weak pass defense for too long.
Not any more I don't think, barring injuries. We'll see.
I keep seeing this all over the place here. "Pass defense is fixed" .....Ok. It's fixed.... So is KC's oline.
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stupid shit stats mahomes came to a winning team much like lamar did what did Baker get ? oh thats right a team that had gone 1-31 big difference there skippy
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we couldn't stop them because of secondary play. and our lb's couldn't cover Kelce all game long. Kelce alone had 8 receptions for 109 yards, one TD.
safety play...lacking. LB play...lacking. Hill was 8 completions for 110 yards.
Pass defense is fixed now. I don't expect Mahomes will be able to play easy pitch and catch with those two again.
and the Browns offense will be far more able to fool defenses - more tricks up their sleeve. It would be great if Schwartz can make a bit of a difference here and there. I'll be looking for a TD throw to Schwartz on the crossing patterns the first game.
Too many teams have been able to throw against the Browns weak pass defense for too long.
Not any more I don't think, barring injuries. We'll see.
I keep seeing this all over the place here. "Pass defense is fixed" .....Ok. It's fixed.... So is KC's oline.
I keep seeing this all over the place here. "Pass defense is fixed" ....
We don't know that to be true. Of course it's the assumption because we've brought in so many players to fix it. But it still remains to be seen. I prefer Runyon's more pragmatic view....but there's no reason not to hope that our D shows that it's improved.
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If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
I think most people who have this opinion of Clowney measure with sacks. You don’t take into account his impact on the run game or QB pressures. I think that early and often in this game Garrett, Clowney, McKinley, Mcdowel and JOK are going to assault your O line. That’s especially true on the right side. Let’s see how that impacts Mahomes.
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.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
I think most people who have this opinion of Clowney measure with sacks. You don’t take into account his impact on the run game or QB pressures. I think that early and often in this game Garrett, Clowney, McKinley, Mcdowel and JOK are going to assault your O line. That’s especially true on the right side. Let’s see how that impacts Mahomes.
I think most people who have this opinion of Clowney measure with sacks. You don’t take into account his impact on the run game or QB pressures. I think that early and often in this game Garrett, Clowney, McKinley, Mcdowel and JOK are going to assault your O line. That’s especially true on the right side. Let’s see how that impacts Mahomes.
Especially against this oline thats supposed to be ..."Fixed".. Oline needs longer than preseason to gel..... Last I checked.. Callahan is on our staff.. Not theirs!
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Don't be shocked when those Cleveland Browns kick your ass in your own building this Sunday... I guarantee you'll run and hide with your tail up your ass... This isn't the Fat Freddy or Loser Hue coached Browns you will be facing.. This is a much more disciplined and coached team since the Belicheat days.... Don't be shocked when Garrett and Clowny sandwiches your boy and breaks him like a pretzel... Browns in a shocker. will beat the Hankercheifs 42-38
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
and we out rushed your vaunted running game.
*in the tune of the Jetsons*
- Box counts - they're a thing now.
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
1. My point about Mahomes sacks is to demonstrate that with a very average to below average line, Mahomes was hard to sack. I keep hearing from you guys that Myles garrett....and.............Javon Clowney are going to crush him. Highly unlikely even before the Chiefs upgraded the line...and now less likely.
2. KC played starters A LOT more than most NFL teams did this preseason and they logged alot of tme VS other teams starters...granted there was alot of vanilla, like there always is in preseason games....but here are some things to look at and ponder.....
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
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.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
Gloat? I am posting stats. The stats are the stats.
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