Tale of the Tape - Browns vs Chiefs
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.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
I think most people who have this opinion of Clowney measure with sacks. You don’t take into account his impact on the run game or QB pressures. I think that early and often in this game Garrett, Clowney, McKinley, Mcdowel and JOK are going to assault your O line. That’s especially true on the right side. Let’s see how that impacts Mahomes.
I think most people who have this opinion of Clowney measure with sacks. You don’t take into account his impact on the run game or QB pressures. I think that early and often in this game Garrett, Clowney, McKinley, Mcdowel and JOK are going to assault your O line. That’s especially true on the right side. Let’s see how that impacts Mahomes.
Especially against this oline thats supposed to be ..."Fixed".. Oline needs longer than preseason to gel..... Last I checked.. Callahan is on our staff.. Not theirs!
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Don't be shocked when those Cleveland Browns kick your ass in your own building this Sunday... I guarantee you'll run and hide with your tail up your ass... This isn't the Fat Freddy or Loser Hue coached Browns you will be facing.. This is a much more disciplined and coached team since the Belicheat days.... Don't be shocked when Garrett and Clowny sandwiches your boy and breaks him like a pretzel... Browns in a shocker. will beat the Hankercheifs 42-38
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
and we out rushed your vaunted running game.
*in the tune of the Jetsons*
- Box counts - they're a thing now.
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Mayfield was sacked 26 times last year behind the "top rated" pass protection line in the NFL. Mahomes was sacked 22 times behind a line that even when healthy, was ranked only as a mediocre pass protection unit last year.
Mahomes is hard to sack even when his line is MEH.
The line he has now.....I've seen it in preseason....but even if you or I never saw it together at all thus far....it would be a fairly safe assumption to say this is the best line Mahomes has had since he''s been in KC. I HAVE seen it in preseason.....it IS much better. I won't convince you because I have what must certainly be a clear KC bias...but you aren't going to be in for a good day this Sunday.
Also.....Watch for some crazy formations....Don't be surprised if KC throws out some 3 TE sets at you that that they pass out of.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
Um Mahomes is one of the more mobile QBs in the NFL- and no one here is saying he's not a great QB either. Only argument is if him or Rodgers are #1.
So your OL looks better in preseason playing against vanilla defenses? Where a lot of teams weren't even playing their defensive starters? It gets real on Sunday.
1. My point about Mahomes sacks is to demonstrate that with a very average to below average line, Mahomes was hard to sack. I keep hearing from you guys that Myles garrett....and.............Javon Clowney are going to crush him. Highly unlikely even before the Chiefs upgraded the line...and now less likely.
2. KC played starters A LOT more than most NFL teams did this preseason and they logged alot of tme VS other teams starters...granted there was alot of vanilla, like there always is in preseason games....but here are some things to look at and ponder.....
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I don't know about stealing, but fumbling the ball out of bounds in the end zone is a shit rule. I can live with if it goes all they way past the end line.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
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.....that was a tough break...but it wasn't the game.....for F***s sake....you guys put up 300 total yards of offesne, and we out rushed your vaunted running game. you were 3/3 on 4th down and STILL compiled only 300 yards.
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
Boy you love to gloat don't you... Remember... Karma is a B I T C H !!
Gloat? I am posting stats. The stats are the stats.
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Gloat? I am posting stats. The stats are the stats.
No you are gloating like a 5 year old twerp!
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and we out rushed your vaunted running game.
*in the tune of the Jetsons*
- Box counts - they're a thing now.
*in the tune of the Jetsons*
- Box counts - they're a thing now.
Box stats always need context.....and the context of this was KC was up 19-3 with Mahomes driving deep into cleveland territory, we had dominated the game in yards and were about to put more points on teh board.....Mahomes got a concussion, we kicked a field goal...and then you guys tried to rally late and couldn't do it. You mounted 300 yards of offense for the game. Taht wasn't good enough to beat 3 quarters of mahomes and a little more than a quarter of awful chad henne. You also played the NFC East last year and went 4-0 in those games with a plus 44 Point differential.. you were 7-5 VS everyone else with a -11 differential. You aren't as great as yhou think you are.
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Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
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Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February
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Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February
I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February
You'd be correct.
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*in the tune of the Jetsons*
- Box counts - they're a thing now.
Box stats always need context.....and the context of this was KC was up 19-3 with Mahomes driving deep into cleveland territory, we had dominated the game in yards and were about to put more points on teh board.....Mahomes got a concussion, we kicked a field goal...and then you guys tried to rally late and couldn't do it. You mounted 300 yards of offense for the game. Taht wasn't good enough to beat 3 quarters of mahomes and a little more than a quarter of awful chad henne. You also played the NFC East last year and went 4-0 in those games with a plus 44 Point differential.. you were 7-5 VS everyone else with a -11 differential. You aren't as great as yhou think you are.
- Box stats always..
You aren't as great as yhou think you are
#1 - BOX COUNT. Not BOX STATS. HUGE difference.
#2 - Yes, I am.
#3 - If you have to google or refresh on what a box count is that's fine. But then circle back to #2.
I'd bother to do the film, but it would be wasted on you. Your initial conversation was only to hide your thinly veiled and undeserved arrogance that gave way later. Me personally, I'd just ban your stupid ass now. There's enough trash on this board that we don't need the Mizzou type on top of what we currently have.
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If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl?
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If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl?
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If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl?
If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl?
Yes....even as great as Mahomes is....he isn't effective when when he has a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string LG, the worst starting C in the NFL, a 2nd string G and a 3rd string RT play VS the best front 4. It is afterall, still a team game...and when you are down to the garbage heap for starting O linemen....your team is in trouble.
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Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.
Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?
And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?
P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated
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