Bet Buffalo...
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You have your opinion , I have mine.
Dupree played well for 6 years in Pittsburgh, honored his contract, and had to flee to get paid.
TJ Watt played 4 years (very well), doesn't honor a contract, and gets ultra paid on a cave-in (surprisingly, given the employer).
That's stupid.
I love Bud, I said this already. He didn't turn it on and truly put it together until the final two years on the team. He was raw coming out and it took him a while. Injuries didn't help. He then priced himself out of playing on the steelers with his play BECAUSE the steelers need to sign watt and Fitzpatrick. If the steelers didnt have Watt, Dupree would have been paid. You all are going to start to feel that soon too as your current roster can't be paid long term which is why it's important for teams to draft well. You have a window now so get ready to see some of this on your own team. You will then reload via the draft instead of FA.
I'm used to it as the steelers have been doing it a long time. ??
I'm used to it as the steelers have been doing it a long time. ??
Yep. The 31 other teams have been implementing/dealing with salary cap issues as well.
Basically 5 or 6 guys take up most of every team's cap. You know this.
Great for Watt,bad for business.
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Yep. The 31 other teams have been implementing/dealing with salary cap issues as well.
Basically 5 or 6 guys take up most of every team's cap. You know this.
Great for Watt,bad for business.
Myles Garrett is on a inexpensive contract, aye? Or you are against that too?
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It's a forum. My take is as good or bad as anyone else's.
TJ was on the 5th year option his rookie deal and wanted to secure a guaranteed long term future. The kid has contended for DPOY and MVP, he provides a pass rush and TFL threat Dupree could never match. You're free to cross reference tape, stats, grades and NFL 100 ranking. The overwhelming majority of players in his position hold-out in his case. He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith. It's about as honorable as you can get. Incredibly similar to how Myles did it.
Ignorance and short sightedness is not as valuable as someone else's knowledge or naunced insight. So, no... Your take is demonstratably garbage.
If you shout that the earth is flat then you have that right. But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
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It's a forum. My take is as good or bad as anyone else's.
TJ was on the 5th year option his rookie deal and wanted to secure a guaranteed long term future. The kid has contended for DPOY and MVP, he provides a pass rush and TFL threat Dupree could never match. You're free to cross reference tape, stats, grades and NFL 100 ranking. The overwhelming majority of players in his position hold-out in his case. He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith. It's about as honorable as you can get. Incredibly similar to how Myles did it.
Ignorance and short sightedness is not as valuable as someone else's knowledge or naunced insight. So, no... Your take is demonstratably garbage.
If you shout that the earth is flat then you have that right. But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
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Myles Garrett is on a inexpensive contract, aye? Or you are against that too?
Myles & the Browns reached an agreement ( last year, I think) on an extension. He agreed to the terms, never threatened to hold out, etc. So no, I've got no gripes there at all.
He was compensated well. Of course, other players at that position will look at the deal and use it as a comparison to get paid. That's how things roll in just about any sport.
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He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
Participant in team workouts, position and 1 on 1 drills, walkthroughs, team meetings but held out on full contact. A decision likely endorsed by the coaches. And zero issue being that he knows the defense and is a proven player. Really no different than veteran rest days.
Maybe you don't get it, when people say dumb shit, it should bother EVERYBODY.
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Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
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Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
The defensive improvement under Dan Quin alone should have been enough to chase people off a 9 point spread last night. But folks went heavy on Tampa. They're a great team, possibly historic in the sense of their complete talent and ability to win in all sorts of ways.
But the Dallas roster has had talent for several years. It has just been wildly miss-used.
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Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Brady isn't over the hill, but BB is. Give the points and take the Buffs.
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Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
The defensive improvement under Dan Quin alone should have been enough to chase people off a 9 point spread last night. But folks went heavy on Tampa. They're a great team, possibly historic in the sense of their complete talent and ability to win in all sorts of ways.
But the Dallas roster has had talent for several years. It has just been wildly miss-used.
The defensive improvement under Dan Quin alone should have been enough to chase people off a 9 point spread last night. But folks went heavy on Tampa. They're a great team, possibly historic in the sense of their complete talent and ability to win in all sorts of ways.
But the Dallas roster has had talent for several years. It has just been wildly miss-used.
To me Tampa looked shaky in the secondary, too. Obviously Dallas felt that way too with Dak throwing 58 times with strong success overall. Don't disagree though overall, crazy how much talent is on that roster. AB, Godwin, and Evans could all easily be WR1 on another team (AB a weak WR1, but his route running is still elite).
Brady isn't over the hill, but BB is. Give the points and take the Buffs.
I guess we'll see. I can't for the life of me find the source, but listening to a sports radio thing about betting they highlighted the insane amount of times games get back door covered at more than a TD OR games are won by 13+. It's a really interesting middle ground of games not being decided by 8-12 points. Again, at -6.5 I'd still be going Buffalo. But the spread even hit +8 in some cases where I'd take Pitt to get underneath (or at) at TD.
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The defensive improvement under Dan Quin alone should have been enough to chase people off a 9 point spread last night. But folks went heavy on Tampa. They're a great team, possibly historic in the sense of their complete talent and ability to win in all sorts of ways.
But the Dallas roster has had talent for several years. It has just been wildly miss-used.
To me Tampa looked shaky in the secondary, too. Obviously Dallas felt that way too with Dak throwing 58 times with strong success overall. Don't disagree though overall, crazy how much talent is on that roster. AB, Godwin, and Evans could all easily be WR1 on another team (AB a weak WR1, but his route running is still elite).
Brady isn't over the hill, but BB is. Give the points and take the Buffs.
I guess we'll see. I can't for the life of me find the source, but listening to a sports radio thing about betting they highlighted the insane amount of times games get back door covered at more than a TD OR games are won by 13+. It's a really interesting middle ground of games not being decided by 8-12 points. Again, at -6.5 I'd still be going Buffalo. But the spread even hit +8 in some cases where I'd take Pitt to get underneath (or at) at TD.
To me Tampa looked shaky in the secondary, too. Obviously Dallas felt that way too with Dak throwing 58 times with strong success overall. Don't disagree though overall, crazy how much talent is on that roster. AB, Godwin, and Evans could all easily be WR1 on another team (AB a weak WR1, but his route running is still elite).
I guess we'll see. I can't for the life of me find the source, but listening to a sports radio thing about betting they highlighted the insane amount of times games get back door covered at more than a TD OR games are won by 13+. It's a really interesting middle ground of games not being decided by 8-12 points. Again, at -6.5 I'd still be going Buffalo. But the spread even hit +8 in some cases where I'd take Pitt to get underneath (or at) at TD.
Agreed on the spread. I'm good at 6.5.
Push at 7 and beyond? Nah, I'm alright.
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Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Look I'm obviously a diehard but I'm not unrealistic. People are full tilt sleeping on the Steelers. Currently the offensive line is the biggest wildcard but they are hungry. Yes I know, easy for me to say but two of our rookies got into it with Heyward at practice on multiple occasions because they are going so hard. Green and Moore. If the line is just better than last year the Steelers are going to do a lot of damage. Ben looks really good and camp/practice reports are backing it up.
Our local media likes to fry the shit out of all the local teams so it's not a matter of fake hype either. Ben looks 10 years younger from a biomechanics stand point. Now just look at the weapons on each side of the ball and try to logically arrive at how or why the steelers will be bad. Randy fichtner is also gone and he was horrific. I guess we are going to find out but people sleeping on the steelers no matter the result on Sunday are being short sighted or just assuming Ben is done. (He isn't)
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Brady isn't over the hill, but BB is. Give the points and take the Buffs.
Brady isn't over the hill, but BB is. Give the points and take the Buffs.
Big Ben isn't over the hill. Legit just go watch the limited time he played in the preseason, specifically the play where he scrambled in the backfield and found ebron. The defender made a good play and ebron dropped it. ?
Everyone is also quick to forget the dude avulsed tendons from his elbow. He wasn't all the way back last season which is why they threw a ton of short stuff to compensate for the lack of a run game. He's a additional season removed from that AND he has a stud in Harris. Big Ben is going to show in a hurry he isn't over the hill. The wildcard is health over the course of the season.
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And to bobs previous points. TJ Watt also ignored his agents who believed he could get more money, he probably could have and he went to see Art II and said they have a deal. He did everything right with his contract negotiations as one of the best players barring none in the NFL.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Call me crazy, but if I were a betting man (and I am), I take Pitt on a back door cover. I wouldn't put money on +6.5, but money went hard on the Bills and the line moved to +7.5 Steelers Thursday morning. I don't like them to win outright of course, but a lot of talk of "steelers suck" vs "bills may make the super bowl" to me makes this a closer game (not unlike last night, actually).
Look I'm obviously a diehard but I'm not unrealistic. People are full tilt sleeping on the Steelers. Currently the offensive line is the biggest wildcard but they are hungry. Yes I know, easy for me to say but two of our rookies got into it with Heyward at practice on multiple occasions because they are going so hard. Green and Moore. If the line is just better than last year the Steelers are going to do a lot of damage. Ben looks really good and camp/practice reports are backing it up.
Our local media likes to fry the shit out of all the local teams so it's not a matter of fake hype either. Ben looks 10 years younger from a biomechanics stand point. Now just look at the weapons on each side of the ball and try to logically arrive at how or why the steelers will be bad. Randy fichtner is also gone and he was horrific. I guess we are going to find out but people sleeping on the steelers no matter the result on Sunday are being short sighted or just assuming Ben is done. (He isn't)
Look I'm obviously a diehard but I'm not unrealistic. People are full tilt sleeping on the Steelers. Currently the offensive line is the biggest wildcard but they are hungry. Yes I know, easy for me to say but two of our rookies got into it with Heyward at practice on multiple occasions because they are going so hard. Green and Moore. If the line is just better than last year the Steelers are going to do a lot of damage. Ben looks really good and camp/practice reports are backing it up.
Our local media likes to fry the shit out of all the local teams so it's not a matter of fake hype either. Ben looks 10 years younger from a biomechanics stand point. Now just look at the weapons on each side of the ball and try to logically arrive at how or why the steelers will be bad. Randy fichtner is also gone and he was horrific. I guess we are going to find out but people sleeping on the steelers no matter the result on Sunday are being short sighted or just assuming Ben is done. (He isn't)
Simply, I'll believe it when I see it with Big Ben. It's easy to look good in preseason and practice, but I can assure you teams are going to blitz the ever loving shit out of Pittsburgh this year. The man has earned his paychecks, but it sure looked like father time took his toll last year.
Do I think they will win more games than lose? Since the theme is betting, I'd put my money on the over .500. I just don't see it much higher than 9-8.
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Zombo said:
No one upon no one is sleeping on the Steelers.
You have a he'll of a coach and HOF QB.
You have a very, very good young set of receivers, a badass defense featuring two mega-stars, and you drafted your biggest need, running back.
I have you going 10-7 and second to us in the division.
Most folks feel that with a 38 yo no longer mobile qb and questionable offensive line, you are not a safe bet to make the finish line intact, and that is reasonable.
You are defending division champions and will be treated as such.
Z
-- Even if we have already beaten you twice in 2021.
You may not be but a lot of talking heads are and a lot of fan bases are. I put very little stock in the latter. I agree with all those points and Ben actually is in tremendous shape and not the normal training camp talking point. I honestly don't believe he will be done after this season unless he gets hurt. (Knock on wood)
Edit: they also won xl with a pretty rough line but a very good defense. The line in place now is very athletic, especially green who is still raw at center but absolutely insane in space and down field.
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Look I'm obviously a diehard but I'm not unrealistic. People are full tilt sleeping on the Steelers. Currently the offensive line is the biggest wildcard but they are hungry. Yes I know, easy for me to say but two of our rookies got into it with Heyward at practice on multiple occasions because they are going so hard. Green and Moore. If the line is just better than last year the Steelers are going to do a lot of damage. Ben looks really good and camp/practice reports are backing it up.
Our local media likes to fry the shit out of all the local teams so it's not a matter of fake hype either. Ben looks 10 years younger from a biomechanics stand point. Now just look at the weapons on each side of the ball and try to logically arrive at how or why the steelers will be bad. Randy fichtner is also gone and he was horrific. I guess we are going to find out but people sleeping on the steelers no matter the result on Sunday are being short sighted or just assuming Ben is done. (He isn't)
Simply, I'll believe it when I see it with Big Ben. It's easy to look good in preseason and practice, but I can assure you teams are going to blitz the ever loving shit out of Pittsburgh this year. The man has earned his paychecks, but it sure looked like father time took his toll last year.
Do I think they will win more games than lose? Since the theme is betting, I'd put my money on the over .500. I just don't see it much higher than 9-8.
Simply, I'll believe it when I see it with Big Ben. It's easy to look good in preseason and practice, but I can assure you teams are going to blitz the ever loving shit out of Pittsburgh this year. The man has earned his paychecks, but it sure looked like father time took his toll last year.
Do I think they will win more games than lose? Since the theme is betting, I'd put my money on the over .500. I just don't see it much higher than 9-8.
I no bs expect them to contend for the division. Run down the list of offensive weapons. The scheme change is also substantial. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't believe a good number of Browns fans do what I do for other teams in the division. If you did you'd be singing a different tune. They won 11 straight games with so called "over the hill" Ben with zero run game and a horrible offensive coordinator. Ben is a gamer and he's in tremendous shape and his arm is full recovered. It wasn't last year. If they lose (they won't) we get a high draft pick and draft a qb. Sleep on em all you want.
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He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
He's a dipshit.
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He didn't and negotiated a deal in good faith.
Good faith? Riding a bike at practice, while your team mates are busting their butts during training camp. Under contract & wanting more $$. That's not good faith to me, but yeah, I'm a "Retard."
But others have the right to tell you that you're a fucking Retard as well.
Who shit in your Cornflakes? Wow.
He's a dipshit.
He's a dipshit.
Bob was the one with the nutty take.
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