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  • ward is going to get a huge contract ... i dont think it will be from the browns they drafted Newsome as his replacement.  

    Also Teller is gone as well just start bracing for it mentally.  He will get a huge contract and with paying Tretter , Bitonio and Conklin already its not happening .

  • @orion said:

    My point, they're ALL going to get hurt.  Would you rather have good players or cheap players?  

    I might not agree on all.  It seems some get hurt more often.  That is what I don't want.

    Face it, Hospital Ward is just a frail player.  If he didn't get involved with tackling players, he  probably wouldn't get hurt expect for a hamstring issue once or twice a season.

    @ballpeen said:

    Face it, Hospital Ward is just a frail player. 

    Which of our CB's have demonstrated that they are not frail?   My line has been to call them brittle.

  • Well, I just read that Greedy, Ward and Newsome all will practice today along with Jed so that's good news

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I don’t follow that logic

    My point, they're ALL going to get hurt.  Would you rather have good players or cheap players?  

    @orion said:

    My point, they're ALL going to get hurt.  Would you rather have good players or cheap players?  

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

  • @orion said:

    My point, they're ALL going to get hurt.  Would you rather have good players or cheap players?  

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

    Yeah, he's brittle.  But he gets better.  🙂

  • Well, I just read that Greedy, Ward and Newsome all will practice today along with Jed so that's good news

    @hx214 said:

    Well, I just read that Greedy, Ward and Newsome all will practice today along with Jed so that's good news

    Yes, they all practiced yesterday.  (LP). Ditto Wills. A bunch of guys apparently getting R&R days off...   https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/

  • All Injury Updates

    Cmon, man! Awards for 10/14:

    *JOK's chin strap got caught on his throat early in the game

    * 2 injuries listed for each of Garrett, Clowney, Takk

    Cards will be without two first-team all-pros - C Hudson, DE Jones

  • ward and williams good to go for sunday maybe get newsome back for the denver game 

  • Did he actually make it through the whole game today??

  • Did he actually make it through the whole game today??

    @hx214 said:

    Did he actually make it through the whole game today??

    yep and got a bullshit call against him

  • @orion said:

    My point, they're ALL going to get hurt.  Would you rather have good players or cheap players?  

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

    Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons.  He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract. 

    Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument

    @bjh2130 said:

    Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument

    I’m not discussing Myles Garrett.  You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.

    I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.

    My post just stated facts.  

    Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.  

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument

    I’m not discussing Myles Garrett.  You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.

    I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.

    My post just stated facts.  

    Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I’m not discussing Myles Garrett.  You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.

    I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.

    My post just stated facts.  

    Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.  

    True.  Most of those were because of a suspension.  

    Garrett can take care of that, and has.  Hospital Ward is still frail.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I’m not discussing Myles Garrett.  You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.

    I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.

    My post just stated facts.  

    Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.  

    True.  Most of those were because of a suspension.  

    Garrett can take care of that, and has.  Hospital Ward is still frail.

    @ballpeen said:

    Garrett can take care of that, and has.  Hospital Ward is still frail.

    One of these things is not like the other....

    CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.

  • @ballpeen said:

    Garrett can take care of that, and has.  Hospital Ward is still frail.

    One of these things is not like the other....

    CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.

    @tour2ma said:

    One of these things is not like the other....

    CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.

    It's a good question and I understand your point.  Point taken.  I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?

    I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things.  We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.

    Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there.  If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen.  He is in the HOF.  Now, Ward is far from Sanders  in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.

  • @tour2ma said:

    One of these things is not like the other....

    CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.

    It's a good question and I understand your point.  Point taken.  I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?

    I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things.  We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.

    Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there.  If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen.  He is in the HOF.  Now, Ward is far from Sanders  in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.

    @ballpeen said:

    It's a good question and I understand your point.  Point taken.  I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?

    I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things.  We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.

    Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there.  If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen.  He is in the HOF.  Now, Ward is far from Sanders  in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.

    I don't think deion would be deion in today's NFL. Ward has led the league the past two years with the lowest completion percentage and passer rating allowed when the receiver he is responsible for guarding is targeted. Last year he led the nfl in "ball hawk rate" per pff which is percentage of throws to your target that result in a deflection or int near 25%. So on average 1 out of every 4 throws his way he gets a hand on.

    "Ward was elite when it came to blanketing pass catchers, posting a tight window rate of 40.5 percent, the second-highest mark among corners behind only Jaire Alexander. His ballhawk rate was the highest among all qualifying corners at 24.3 percent."

    Also apparently since 2018 he has been ranked the top man to man corner

  • We will see.  All that counts is what Berry thinks of the guy.

  • @ballpeen said:

    It's a good question and I understand your point.  Point taken.  I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?

    I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things.  We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.

    Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there.  If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen.  He is in the HOF.  Now, Ward is far from Sanders  in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.

    I don't think deion would be deion in today's NFL. Ward has led the league the past two years with the lowest completion percentage and passer rating allowed when the receiver he is responsible for guarding is targeted. Last year he led the nfl in "ball hawk rate" per pff which is percentage of throws to your target that result in a deflection or int near 25%. So on average 1 out of every 4 throws his way he gets a hand on.

    "Ward was elite when it came to blanketing pass catchers, posting a tight window rate of 40.5 percent, the second-highest mark among corners behind only Jaire Alexander. His ballhawk rate was the highest among all qualifying corners at 24.3 percent."

    Also apparently since 2018 he has been ranked the top man to man corner

    @bjh2130 said:

    Also apparently since 2018 he (Ward) has been ranked the top man to man corner

    Then let's play a lot of soft zone Joe. ?

  • mri today for ward's hammy