Hospital Ward?
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I don’t follow that logic
My point, they're ALL going to get hurt. Would you rather have good players or cheap players?
My point, they're ALL going to get hurt. Would you rather have good players or cheap players?
Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons. He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract.
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Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons. He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract.
Yeah, he's brittle. But he gets better.
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Well, I just read that Greedy, Ward and Newsome all will practice today along with Jed so that's good news
Well, I just read that Greedy, Ward and Newsome all will practice today along with Jed so that's good news
Yes, they all practiced yesterday. (LP). Ditto Wills. A bunch of guys apparently getting R&R days off... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/
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Cmon, man! Awards for 10/14:
*JOK's chin strap got caught on his throat early in the game
* 2 injuries listed for each of Garrett, Clowney, Takk
Cards will be without two first-team all-pros - C Hudson, DE Jones
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Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons. He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract.
Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument
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Ward is 0 for 3 staying healthy. He’s missed a month in each of his first three seasons. He’s missed 12 games and he’s still on his first contract.
Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument
Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument
I’m not discussing Myles Garrett. You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.
I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.
My post just stated facts.
Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.
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Through his first 3 years myles Garrett missed more than games than "hospital" ward missed through his first 3 if we're going with this availability argument
I’m not discussing Myles Garrett. You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.
I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.
My post just stated facts.
Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.
I’m not discussing Myles Garrett. You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.
I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.
My post just stated facts.
Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.
True. Most of those were because of a suspension.
Garrett can take care of that, and has. Hospital Ward is still frail.
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I’m not discussing Myles Garrett. You have no idea how I feel about him nor should you or anyone else care.
I didn’t call him “hospital” Ward.
My post just stated facts.
Right now, I’m curious what he and his agent want on his next contract.
True. Most of those were because of a suspension.
Garrett can take care of that, and has. Hospital Ward is still frail.
Garrett can take care of that, and has. Hospital Ward is still frail.
One of these things is not like the other....
CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.
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Garrett can take care of that, and has. Hospital Ward is still frail.
One of these things is not like the other....
CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.
One of these things is not like the other....
CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.
It's a good question and I understand your point. Point taken. I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things. We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.
Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there. If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen. He is in the HOF. Now, Ward is far from Sanders in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.
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One of these things is not like the other....
CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.
It's a good question and I understand your point. Point taken. I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things. We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.
Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there. If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen. He is in the HOF. Now, Ward is far from Sanders in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.
It's a good question and I understand your point. Point taken. I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things. We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.
Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there. If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen. He is in the HOF. Now, Ward is far from Sanders in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.
I don't think deion would be deion in today's NFL. Ward has led the league the past two years with the lowest completion percentage and passer rating allowed when the receiver he is responsible for guarding is targeted. Last year he led the nfl in "ball hawk rate" per pff which is percentage of throws to your target that result in a deflection or int near 25%. So on average 1 out of every 4 throws his way he gets a hand on.
"Ward was elite when it came to blanketing pass catchers, posting a tight window rate of 40.5 percent, the second-highest mark among corners behind only Jaire Alexander. His ballhawk rate was the highest among all qualifying corners at 24.3 percent."
Also apparently since 2018 he has been ranked the top man to man corner
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We will see. All that counts is what Berry thinks of the guy.
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It's a good question and I understand your point. Point taken. I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things. We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.
Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there. If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen. He is in the HOF. Now, Ward is far from Sanders in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.
I don't think deion would be deion in today's NFL. Ward has led the league the past two years with the lowest completion percentage and passer rating allowed when the receiver he is responsible for guarding is targeted. Last year he led the nfl in "ball hawk rate" per pff which is percentage of throws to your target that result in a deflection or int near 25%. So on average 1 out of every 4 throws his way he gets a hand on.
"Ward was elite when it came to blanketing pass catchers, posting a tight window rate of 40.5 percent, the second-highest mark among corners behind only Jaire Alexander. His ballhawk rate was the highest among all qualifying corners at 24.3 percent."
Also apparently since 2018 he has been ranked the top man to man corner
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To a old Sonny and Sher song:
And the beat goes on, and the beat go on. La dee dot dee dee, la dee dot dee daa.
Maybe he only misses 2-3 games.
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One of these things is not like the other....
CBs take a beating.... always have always will. Bigger question is when Ward answers the proverbal bell, is he enough of a difference maker? Answer that and then worry about the Cap impact of a part timer.
It's a good question and I understand your point. Point taken. I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
I understand that corners can get beat up, especially if they are foolish about things. We had a DC who called out Ward for being a stupid player for the way he tackles.
Deion Sanders who was known for being a poor tackler because he really didn't stick his head in there. If he couldn't arm tackle or run the OB, it didn't happen. He is in the HOF. Now, Ward is far from Sanders in any way, shape, or form, but with his paper mache body, I don't pay him a boat load.
I don't like to simply throw back questions, but in todays NFL can you really separate the two?
Learn to embrace the approach.... seek to understand before being understood. Always hard for me but even moreso now due to brain acceleration.
Yes, there has been always will be the "availability" factor, but I think there is a balance. The bigger the CB's Star, the bigger the fall off when time is missed. And now with 17 games... oy vey...
Bigger CBs have to be the answer... or at least heavier, thicker ones... and in abundance or rotations and depth. Tall and fast to boot? Sure in an ideal world, but those would make an already rare combination even rarer. I'd be willing to go a step slower for a few more inches. I am going to zone against an RPO-ZBS combo most of the time anyway, so excepting at FS, I can sacrifice some speed for size. Add a stout SS, and keep my LBs a bit bigger, and I'm good.... at least so long as I can outscore them.
My bottom line... I see neither the value in Ward nor the position to lock him up in an expensive Long-term contract.
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mri today for ward's hammy
MRI on Friday and no news as far as I know.
Seems to me that teams are eager to share good news. Sounds like they are waiting for more tests to confirm or dispel something the fist test revealed. I am not trying to be negative, but it's not looking good. I am sure that Stefanski would have been very happy to report all is AOK.
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