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  • W Westside Steve

    @browns149 said:

    Well the article that was posted blames the mandate for a boys death. 
     

    I know you're kind of being facetious but do you honestly think that they are unrelated?

    Come on man .

    By the way I don't hold the strikers unaccountable either.

    Now you can answer the question.

    WSS

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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    I know you're kind of being facetious but do you honestly think that they are unrelated?

    Come on man .

    By the way I don't hold the strikers unaccountable either.

    Now you can answer the question.

    WSS

    I don’t think it should be mandated.

    But if you work in those fields, and you ARE mandated, and you don’t comply, then you get what you get

    I work in a field where I can’t do certain things, that are legal to others. If I do them, I will get fired. Therefore I don’t do them

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      https://thepostmillennial.com/ice-cube-leaves-sony-film-after-refusing-to-get-vaccinated?utm_campaign=64474&fbclid=IwAR15ixUrXaxp-5pZGt70tzRSxlk0ZD96uu5T_cHGurk6pjdE07d3baI6EVQ

      I don't look at celebrities/sports figures for anything more than what they do professionally by entertaining.

      but I do like these people who are standing up and speaking out by example. 

      Ice cube isnt going to lose out much because he probably has alot already -  but his stance along with Kyrie Irving, Joe Rogan, SW airline pilots,

      and even Health care workers are growing a list of ordinary people that object to this vaccine.

      SCREW mandates biden

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      • W Westside Steve

        You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

        I'll see how far this one last 

        WSS

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        GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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        @westside-steve said:

        You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

        I'll see how far this one last 

        WSS

        A mandate would be a mandate on police, fire, and medical as well which may cause them to either quit their jobs or be fired.

        Wear the stupid mask.

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          @westside-steve said:

          I know you're kind of being facetious but do you honestly think that they are unrelated?

          Come on man .

          By the way I don't hold the strikers unaccountable either.

          Now you can answer the question.

          WSS

          I don’t think it should be mandated.

          But if you work in those fields, and you ARE mandated, and you don’t comply, then you get what you get

          I work in a field where I can’t do certain things, that are legal to others. If I do them, I will get fired. Therefore I don’t do them

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          @browns149 said:

          I don’t think it should be mandated.

          But if you work in those fields, and you ARE mandated, and you don’t comply, then you get what you get

           I don't think these clowns issued the mandate to protect those workers. Because apparently those workers don't give a flying f***. But I don't see many people quitting their jobs because they have to wear a mask and even I agree that can help slow the transmission somewhat.

          Even if people that think masks will protect the wearer are stupid.. or the jerk offs that were them where they aren't around anybody else.

          I work in a field where I can’t do certain things, that are legal to others. If I do them, I will get fired. Therefore I don’t do them

          Cigs? Weed? And your opinion of not being allowed to do something on your own time?

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          • GorkaG Gorka

            @westside-steve said:

            You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

            I'll see how far this one last 

            WSS

            A mandate would be a mandate on police, fire, and medical as well which may cause them to either quit their jobs or be fired.

            Wear the stupid mask.

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            @gorka said:

            A mandate would be a mandate on police, fire, and medical as well which may cause them to either quit their jobs or be fired.

            Wear the stupid mask.

            Yes I regretfully agree go along to get along. But again I don't see any of those people refusing to wear a mask just refusing to get the shot.

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                @westside-steve said:

                You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

                I'll see how far this one last 

                WSS

                A mandate would be a mandate on police, fire, and medical as well which may cause them to either quit their jobs or be fired.

                Wear the stupid mask.

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                VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                @gorka said:

                A mandate would be a mandate on police, fire, and medical as well which may cause them to either quit their jobs or be fired.

                Wear the stupid mask.

                https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1442135538811604996?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1442135538811604996%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/26/alejandro-mayorkas-12000-migrants-released-us-del-/

                non-tested for covid

                No mask or vaccine mandates on them...why?

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                • W Westside Steve

                  @browns149 said:

                  I don’t think it should be mandated.

                  But if you work in those fields, and you ARE mandated, and you don’t comply, then you get what you get

                   I don't think these clowns issued the mandate to protect those workers. Because apparently those workers don't give a flying f***. But I don't see many people quitting their jobs because they have to wear a mask and even I agree that can help slow the transmission somewhat.

                  Even if people that think masks will protect the wearer are stupid.. or the jerk offs that were them where they aren't around anybody else.

                  I work in a field where I can’t do certain things, that are legal to others. If I do them, I will get fired. Therefore I don’t do them

                  Cigs? Weed? And your opinion of not being allowed to do something on your own time?

                  WSS

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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Cigs? Weed? And your opinion of not being allowed to do something on your own time?

                  WSS

                  Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer 

                  If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago

                  They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences 

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Cigs? Weed? And your opinion of not being allowed to do something on your own time?

                    WSS

                    Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer 

                    If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago

                    They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences 

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                    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                    @browns149 said:

                    Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer 

                    If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago

                    They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences 

                    So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit! 

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                      @browns149 said:

                      Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer 

                      If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago

                      They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences 

                      So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit! 

                      81 million votes  0000.gif.27381f2f01e34b92ab02c185dbf6082a.gif

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                      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                      @vambo said:

                      So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit! 

                      81 million votes  0000.gif.27381f2f01e34b92ab02c185dbf6082a.gif

                      Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it

                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                        @vambo said:

                        So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit! 

                        81 million votes  0000.gif.27381f2f01e34b92ab02c185dbf6082a.gif

                        Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it

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                        VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                        @browns149 said:

                        Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it

                        He fired staffers for past weed smoking but not Kameltoe...why?

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                          @vambo said:

                          So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit! 

                          81 million votes  0000.gif.27381f2f01e34b92ab02c185dbf6082a.gif

                          Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it

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                          @browns149 said:

                          Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it

                          Even though he's a puppet yes either he or his handlers or the Democrats (the Unholy Trinity ?)or all three started this shit.

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                              In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...

                              ... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts. 

                              There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is. 

                              As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                              We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday. 

                              We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)

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                                In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...

                                ... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts. 

                                There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is. 

                                As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                                We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday. 

                                We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...

                                ... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts. 

                                There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is. 

                                As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                                We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday. 

                                We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)

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                                    I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.

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                                      I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.

                                      That was overly complimentary  ?

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                                        In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...

                                        ... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts. 

                                        There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is. 

                                        As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                                        We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday. 

                                        We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns).

                                        Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.

                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                                        And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does. 

                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

                                        I'll see how far this one last 

                                        WSS

                                        The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...  

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns).

                                          Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.

                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school. 

                                          And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does. 

                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking.  I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.

                                          I'll see how far this one last 

                                          WSS

                                          The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...  

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @vaportrail said:

                                          Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.

                                          And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does. 

                                          The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...  

                                          I'm just over it man. And when I posted that, I thought, "somewhere, Vapor is out there, and I know he is going to come and comment". But I think you're an intelligent guy and your concerns come from a much more legitimate place than the rest of the board. That being said, I'm just tired of all of this. All of the "American exceptionalism! Freedom! I can do what I want!" crowd. That's what 99% of this blowback is. 

                                          And sure, yeah, the Dems will maybe do something for once and the Reps will take that, flip it, and ramp it up a good bit. I can hope that their regressive social ideas aren't going to get enough support but hey, the last few years have been very, very disappointing in that regard. 

                                          At what point will you feel comfortable with the "long term risks"?

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