Vaccination mandate
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Cigs? Weed? And your opinion of not being allowed to do something on your own time?
WSS
Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer
If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago
They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences
Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer
If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago
They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences
So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit!
81 million votes
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Weed. They need a test that can tell if you are high right now. Like a breathalyzer
If I smoked a joint today and got in an accident at work 5 days from now, I would have to take a piss test, and then get fired for the weed in my pee from 5 days ago
They shouldn’t be allowed to dictate what I do on my own time, but seeing as they are allowed, I must follow the rules or suffer the consequences
So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit!
81 million votes
So Biden will fire you for taking a drug and fire others for not taking a drug...crazy shit!
81 million votes
Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it
He fired staffers for past weed smoking but not Kameltoe...why?
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Biden didn’t start the weed BS. But he could be the one who ends it
Even though he's a puppet yes either he or his handlers or the Democrats (the Unholy Trinity ?)or all three started this shit.
WSS
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In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...
... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts.
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is.
As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday.
We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...
... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts.
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is.
As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday.
We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)
In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...
... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts.
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is.
As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday.
We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)
White House press secretary reveals infection and details last contact she had with President Biden
If only Democrats followed their own mandates we could get rid of Covid-19. Your vote at work woody!
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I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.
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I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.
I like red heads, but she does them an injustice.
That was overly complimentary ?
That guy makes me ?
Our musical works to date http://www.arielsatticmusic.com/ -
In regards to weed there's clearly one side pushing keeping it illegal more than the other. No reason why it shouldn't be legal. Just a bunch of misinformation and propaganda...
... speaking of which, that's been the whole pandemic. It's a damn shame a medical / scientific got completely politicized. Fueled by social media and hack sites you now have people with their own "truths", regardless of the actual facts.
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns). I'd have no problem if my company mandated it. But it's hard enough to hire people as it is.
As for the fire fighters or other public workers, there are already plenty of requirements to hold certain positions. Examples where vaccines are needed too. Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
We'll see how many firefighters get vaccinated come Monday.
We've already got one side using recent deaths as their political tool. We'll see of the other side does too (which I expect)
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns).
Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.
Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does.
You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking. I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.
I'll see how far this one last
WSS
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
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There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns).
Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.
Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does.
You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking. I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.
I'll see how far this one last
WSS
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.
And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does.
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
I'm just over it man. And when I posted that, I thought, "somewhere, Vapor is out there, and I know he is going to come and comment". But I think you're an intelligent guy and your concerns come from a much more legitimate place than the rest of the board. That being said, I'm just tired of all of this. All of the "American exceptionalism! Freedom! I can do what I want!" crowd. That's what 99% of this blowback is.
And sure, yeah, the Dems will maybe do something for once and the Reps will take that, flip it, and ramp it up a good bit. I can hope that their regressive social ideas aren't going to get enough support but hey, the last few years have been very, very disappointing in that regard.
At what point will you feel comfortable with the "long term risks"?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
There's no reason to not take the vaccine (excluding legitimate medical concerns).
Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.
Hell, you need to have certain vaccinations to go to school.
And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does.
You guys know I'm pro vaccine but I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure what it can and can't do. Just on balance. That being said I said without commentary on the effects of the vaccine, if it were up to you would you rather have the police firefighters EMS and medical staff on the job and worrying masks? Or do you think it's more valuable to take a hard line and enforce the mandate. And I'm not asking for commentary on the effectiveness of masks just asking. I'm a little more curious about the guys from the progressive side.
I'll see how far this one last
WSS
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
Since that part was for me I don't care much about the Republicans except for the fact that they will more likely preach things closer to what I believe. Do I trust them to deliver when they get power? Hell no. But just for the record abortion isn't my issue. And no matter how Draconian they get the worst they will do is make it a tiny bit more of a pain in the ass to get one. We aren't putting that toothpaste back in the tube. But still frankly I think the idea a partial birth abortion of a viable fetus whenever and for whatever reason creeps a lot of people out.
WSS
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Who gets to decide what those are? I personally don't think we should mandate risking the young and healthy to the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine because the virus is killing the elderly, diabetics, and hypertensives.
And not a single one of those is an mRNA virus that creates the massive immune response that the COVID vax does.
The left seems to be cheering on these mandates. Political power is cyclical, and what do you think conservatives are going to do with the precedent that's been set when they're back in power again? If you thought that they were draconian about abortion before...
I'm just over it man. And when I posted that, I thought, "somewhere, Vapor is out there, and I know he is going to come and comment". But I think you're an intelligent guy and your concerns come from a much more legitimate place than the rest of the board. That being said, I'm just tired of all of this. All of the "American exceptionalism! Freedom! I can do what I want!" crowd. That's what 99% of this blowback is.
And sure, yeah, the Dems will maybe do something for once and the Reps will take that, flip it, and ramp it up a good bit. I can hope that their regressive social ideas aren't going to get enough support but hey, the last few years have been very, very disappointing in that regard.
At what point will you feel comfortable with the "long term risks"?
At what point will you feel comfortable with the "long term risks"?
For me, age 50. Somewhere around that time, my risks from a severe COVID infection will outweigh whatever misgivings I have about potential side effects.
For people who are younger? People under 18? The risk of myocarditis to males is increased particularly in male populations with the Moderna vax. It's insane to me that the world seems to be okay with passing risks for the old and unhealthy to the young and hale. And this only factors in the effects that show themselves this early (i.e. - the ones that are getting headlines this year and last year). My big concern, and a question that won't have an answer for decades, is if it increases your lifetime risk of autoimmune disease. If that's the case, then my vote is to let nature run its course like it did with the Spanish flu.
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At what point will you feel comfortable with the "long term risks"?
For me, age 50. Somewhere around that time, my risks from a severe COVID infection will outweigh whatever misgivings I have about potential side effects.
For people who are younger? People under 18? The risk of myocarditis to males is increased particularly in male populations with the Moderna vax. It's insane to me that the world seems to be okay with passing risks for the old and unhealthy to the young and hale. And this only factors in the effects that show themselves this early (i.e. - the ones that are getting headlines this year and last year). My big concern, and a question that won't have an answer for decades, is if it increases your lifetime risk of autoimmune disease. If that's the case, then my vote is to let nature run its course like it did with the Spanish flu.
For me, age 50. Somewhere around that time, my risks from a severe COVID infection will outweigh whatever misgivings I have about potential side effects.
For people who are younger? People under 18? The risk of myocarditis to males is increased particularly in male populations with the Moderna vax. It's insane to me that the world seems to be okay with passing risks for the old and unhealthy to the young and hale. And this only factors in the effects that show themselves this early (i.e. - the ones that are getting headlines this year and last year). My big concern, and a question that won't have an answer for decades, is if it increases your lifetime risk of autoimmune disease. If that's the case, then my vote is to let nature run its course like it did with the Spanish flu.
for us, I'm 70 - we were happy to get the Phizer vaccine. But...I've read where the booster with different vaccines is a different deal - changes inside of you afterwards?
beats me, I'm not a medical guy. We'll check with our family dr. Got exposed to covid ten days ago- sprayed lysol around the house...we're fine. Good to be vaccinated. A youngster tested positive- got over it. No one else in their family got it. Maybe a false positve? who knows.
But getting one of their boosters every single year? a bunch of horsecrap right there.
damn communist china and fauci and their secret work on "gain of function" )_())*(_)(*_)&()*&^
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Fauci said 'you cannot force someone' to get COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.yahoo.com/now/last-fauci-said-cannot-force-212300017.html
“I don't think you'll ever see a mandating of vaccine, particularly for the general public,” Fauci said during a town hall with Healthline.com in August 2020.
The idea, according to Fauci, was impossible.
“If someone refuses the vaccine in the general public, then there's nothing you can do about that. You cannot force someone to take a vaccine," he said at the time.
Joe Biden: Covid vaccination in US will not be mandatory
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5 December 2020
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For me, age 50. Somewhere around that time, my risks from a severe COVID infection will outweigh whatever misgivings I have about potential side effects.
For people who are younger? People under 18? The risk of myocarditis to males is increased particularly in male populations with the Moderna vax. It's insane to me that the world seems to be okay with passing risks for the old and unhealthy to the young and hale. And this only factors in the effects that show themselves this early (i.e. - the ones that are getting headlines this year and last year). My big concern, and a question that won't have an answer for decades, is if it increases your lifetime risk of autoimmune disease. If that's the case, then my vote is to let nature run its course like it did with the Spanish flu.
for us, I'm 70 - we were happy to get the Phizer vaccine. But...I've read where the booster with different vaccines is a different deal - changes inside of you afterwards?
beats me, I'm not a medical guy. We'll check with our family dr. Got exposed to covid ten days ago- sprayed lysol around the house...we're fine. Good to be vaccinated. A youngster tested positive- got over it. No one else in their family got it. Maybe a false positve? who knows.
But getting one of their boosters every single year? a bunch of horsecrap right there.
damn communist china and fauci and their secret work on "gain of function" )_())*(_)(*_)&()*&^
for us, I'm 70 - we were happy to get the Phizer vaccine. But...I've read where the booster with different vaccines is a different deal - changes inside of you afterwards?
beats me, I'm not a medical guy. We'll check with our family dr. Got exposed to covid ten days ago- sprayed lysol around the house...we're fine. Good to be vaccinated. A youngster tested positive- got over it. No one else in their family got it. Maybe a false positve? who knows.
But getting one of their boosters every single year? a bunch of horsecrap right there.
damn communist china and fauci and their secret work on "gain of function" )_())*(_)(*_)&()*&^
^ this is what I am talking about here. As someone in the medical field Vapor I'd have to imagine this is somewhat annoying. And for guys in infectious disease (or Fauci himself) it has to be downright frustrating. And this is someone that at least got one vaccine. Imagine how off the rails the anti vaxxers are?
Cal, do you have concerns about a yearly flu shot? Is that "communist China" too?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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