This is ALL Stefanski's Fault. The Offense is what it is because of HIM
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Wonder why all these national media outlets think he is in the same category as those other WR's?
Watch Berry's press conference he said something that stuck out. "The Offense is set up to throw and take advantages of the miss matches. That why we have so many different receivers that get the ball and why each game has different leading receivers"
My feeling after hearing that and seeing Berry pay the guy 7.5 million to play against him the rest of the year is he doesn't think Beckham is anywhere close to tier one.
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We'll see what Stefanski and Baker can do tomorrow. Baker is PISSED. I like him angry.
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A cause and affect statement. Just win baby!
Some teams run with the pass...little 4 yard passes. We run with the run. And that's fine....as long as we can pass when we have to pass. And we 'should' be able to pass with OBJ, Landry, Hooper, Njoku, Schwartz, Felton and Higgins on the team. (key word being 'should')
the browns under stefanski have never really been able to pass when the other team knows its pass. that is not how the offense is designed. its a front running offense with a playaction passing game.
that doesnt work when its under 2 min and the other team knows you are throwing.
the browns under stefanski have never really been able to pass when the other team knows its pass. that is not how the offense is designed. its a front running offense with a playaction passing game.
that doesnt work when its under 2 min and the other team knows you are throwing.
Believe it or not, just click on the link above that says "Watch on YouTube" and it will still work. Watch what happens in 66 seconds vrs Cincy with no timeouts remaining.
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the browns under stefanski have never really been able to pass when the other team knows its pass. that is not how the offense is designed. its a front running offense with a playaction passing game.
that doesnt work when its under 2 min and the other team knows you are throwing.
Believe it or not, just click on the link above that says "Watch on YouTube" and it will still work. Watch what happens in 66 seconds vrs Cincy with no timeouts remaining.
Believe it or not, just click on the link that says watch on youtube and it will still work. Watch what happens in 66 seconds with no timeouts remaining. Not that it will prevent anyone from thinking what the national media that never watches Cleveland play is them.
I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
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Believe it or not, just click on the link that says watch on youtube and it will still work. Watch what happens in 66 seconds with no timeouts remaining. Not that it will prevent anyone from thinking what the national media that never watches Cleveland play is them.
I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
but Jarvis is also playing banged up. and the lack of a true deep threat scaring defenses lets them play closeer to the los. Tighter windows. obj played hard, but only played for himself. If he can't be a star and be cool with his "brand", he pouts, whines and is a distraction. It is a serious indication of the problem - big plays by others, he doesn't care. Baker gets blasted at the sideline while playing injured and wearing a brace - he doesn't care. He just goes off by himself, no emotion. He was that way with the Giants.
If Peoples-Jones can play today - the heck with napoleon obj. I expect a big win today. This is a TEAM that bounces back really well, ....when healthy. I also expect Schwartz to start playing a bigger role. We'll see.
He did fine last year. But Landry is a real team leader and player. obj is obsessed with himself. too bad.
Case is point - Dwayne Bowe said recently that the "Browns are ruining obj's brand". That tells you why Bowe signed a two year contract, but only lasted a year.
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Believe it or not, just click on the link that says watch on youtube and it will still work. Watch what happens in 66 seconds with no timeouts remaining. Not that it will prevent anyone from thinking what the national media that never watches Cleveland play is them.
I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
I understand your concerns. Here's my take. Wills is back and Hance is a better RT than Hudson at replacing Conklin for starters. That's an improvement over watching Hance at LT and Hudson at RT.
Keep in mind, a 17 game season isn't a quick sprint. It's a marathon. Didn't our 11-5 season include a loss to the Jets? And didn't Cincy lose to the Jets after Rathousing Baltimore?
Did you watch the video I shared above? It works if you read my directions below it. Baker wasn't throwing to Jarvis or OBJ - he threw to Higgins and a very inexperienced DPJ for the game winning drive (w/no timeouts) punctuated by a TD. That drive began with 66 seconds on the clock w/a 3 point deficit and ended with 11 seconds remaining and a 4 point lead. Both Cincy games were fun to watch last year.
FWIW, Baker sporting the injury you speak of - threw a Hail Mary Pass from his own 37 into the end zone to DPJ recently.
If we're healthy enough to handle the edge in pass pro today, I'm not worried about who we will use as our deep threat.
We accomplished a lot of our 11-5 regular season plus a 48-37 playoff W without any superstars on the perimeter. Landry played on a bad hip and OBJ was hit or miss until he got injured. The rest of the guys stepped up to the challenge and treated us to Make-It-Happensville.
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
What an appropriate way to end the week considering the name of this thread!
The OLD Browns would have took it all as the perfect excuse to quit on the season. Not these guys! As we saw last year, they were dialed in and prepared to compete on both sides of the ball.
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I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
I understand your concerns. Here's my take. Wills is back and Hance is a better RT than Hudson at replacing Conklin for starters. That's an improvement over watching Hance at LT and Hudson at RT.
Keep in mind, a 17 game season isn't a quick sprint. It's a marathon. Didn't our 11-5 season include a loss to the Jets? And didn't Cincy lose to the Jets after Rathousing Baltimore?
Did you watch the video I shared above? It works if you read my directions below it. Baker wasn't throwing to Jarvis or OBJ - he threw to Higgins and a very inexperienced DPJ for the game winning drive (w/no timeouts) punctuated by a TD. That drive began with 66 seconds on the clock w/a 3 point deficit and ended with 11 seconds remaining and a 4 point lead. Both Cincy games were fun to watch last year.
FWIW, Baker sporting the injury you speak of - threw a Hail Mary Pass from his own 37 into the end zone to DPJ recently.
If we're healthy enough to handle the edge in pass pro today, I'm not worried about who we will use as our deep threat.
We accomplished a lot of our 11-5 regular season plus a 48-37 playoff W without any superstars on the perimeter. Landry played on a bad hip and OBJ was hit or miss until he got injured. The rest of the guys stepped up to the challenge and treated us to Make-It-Happensville.
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
I saw the Magic! I saw the big plays, the sacks, the turnovers, and a team playing together. Breaking up passes, getting some LUCK finally, and a team that stayed together. Perhaps that OBJ release really did help. Right now we need DPJ to stay healthy and hope those turnovers keep coming. Totally different team.
Let's GO.
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Zombo said:
I feel like I'm in an alternate universe.
Z
Hahahahaha...isn't it the truth?
We were all so much better off as Browns' fans with the successes of such offensive revolutionaries as Freddie Kitchens, Hue Jackson, Rob Chudzinski, Pat Shurmur and Chris Palmer...
Hahahahaha...isn't it the truth?
We were all so much better off as Browns' fans with the successes of such offensive revolutionaries as Freddie Kitchens, Hue Jackson, Rob Chudzinski, Pat Shurmur and Chris Palmer...
Success? Success? You can’t handle success!
Well maybe you can AP1, but some here clearly cannot. I mean a draw play on third and 10? Where was the line of scrimmage?
We just played the fucking game of our season and people are having difficulty handling that? Now do we have to follow up this coming Sunday? Absolutely!
but let’s at least wait until then and see what we put on the field.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
I saw the Magic! I saw the big plays, the sacks, the turnovers, and a team playing together. Breaking up passes, getting some LUCK finally, and a team that stayed together. Perhaps that OBJ release really did help. Right now we need DPJ to stay healthy and hope those turnovers keep coming. Totally different team.
Let's GO.
I saw the Magic! I saw the big plays, the sacks, the turnovers, and a team playing together. Breaking up passes, getting some LUCK finally, and a team that stayed together. Perhaps that OBJ release really did help. Right now we need DPJ to stay healthy and hope those turnovers keep coming. Totally different team.
Let's GO.
41-16. All Stefanski huh. Ever feel dumb about a post title ? Or choice of avatar picture...... just kidding.
Remember we just kid because we care, well most of the time.
GO BROWNS !
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I don't know man. This team has no magic. We haven't stopped a team on 4th down in 100 years and it feels like we screw up every 4th down WE have on offense. We scored 10 effing points in the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival. At HOME. Oh yeah, a d they didn't have a freaking kicker for an entire half. GTFOH!
Ok...deep breath. But seriously, what's changed? Do people still remember our QB is struggling AND injured? Do you people REALLY believe our team is better without OBJ? I never saw him quit. I always saw him blocking, running hard, breaking open, and playing HURT. Did he have a few bad drops? He sure did. But guess what? Jarvis literally lost a game by HIMSELF by dropping multiple passes and fumbling. Jarvis also dropped a HUGE 3rd and 9 against the Broncos on a perfect back shoulder toss by Keenum.
What's changed? How are we going to extend the field? Who is getting vertical? Please don't say Schwartz. Just don't. We operate our offense in a damn phone booth. EVERYTHING is within 10 yards.
I love Baker and I know he's hurt, but we need him now.
I understand your concerns. Here's my take. Wills is back and Hance is a better RT than Hudson at replacing Conklin for starters. That's an improvement over watching Hance at LT and Hudson at RT.
Keep in mind, a 17 game season isn't a quick sprint. It's a marathon. Didn't our 11-5 season include a loss to the Jets? And didn't Cincy lose to the Jets after Rathousing Baltimore?
Did you watch the video I shared above? It works if you read my directions below it. Baker wasn't throwing to Jarvis or OBJ - he threw to Higgins and a very inexperienced DPJ for the game winning drive (w/no timeouts) punctuated by a TD. That drive began with 66 seconds on the clock w/a 3 point deficit and ended with 11 seconds remaining and a 4 point lead. Both Cincy games were fun to watch last year.
FWIW, Baker sporting the injury you speak of - threw a Hail Mary Pass from his own 37 into the end zone to DPJ recently.
If we're healthy enough to handle the edge in pass pro today, I'm not worried about who we will use as our deep threat.
We accomplished a lot of our 11-5 regular season plus a 48-37 playoff W without any superstars on the perimeter. Landry played on a bad hip and OBJ was hit or miss until he got injured. The rest of the guys stepped up to the challenge and treated us to Make-It-Happensville.
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
I understand your concerns. Here's my take. Wills is back and Hance is a better RT than Hudson at replacing Conklin for starters. That's an improvement over watching Hance at LT and Hudson at RT.
Keep in mind, a 17 game season isn't a quick sprint. It's a marathon. Didn't our 11-5 season include a loss to the Jets? And didn't Cincy lose to the Jets after Rathousing Baltimore?
Did you watch the video I shared above? It works if you read my directions below it. Baker wasn't throwing to Jarvis or OBJ - he threw to Higgins and a very inexperienced DPJ for the game winning drive (w/no timeouts) punctuated by a TD. That drive began with 66 seconds on the clock w/a 3 point deficit and ended with 11 seconds remaining and a 4 point lead. Both Cincy games were fun to watch last year.
FWIW, Baker sporting the injury you speak of - threw a Hail Mary Pass from his own 37 into the end zone to DPJ recently.
If we're healthy enough to handle the edge in pass pro today, I'm not worried about who we will use as our deep threat.
We accomplished a lot of our 11-5 regular season plus a 48-37 playoff W without any superstars on the perimeter. Landry played on a bad hip and OBJ was hit or miss until he got injured. The rest of the guys stepped up to the challenge and treated us to Make-It-Happensville.
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
Actual analysis what a concept.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Moving forward, let's see what this team is made of...
I saw the Magic! I saw the big plays, the sacks, the turnovers, and a team playing together. Breaking up passes, getting some LUCK finally, and a team that stayed together. Perhaps that OBJ release really did help. Right now we need DPJ to stay healthy and hope those turnovers keep coming. Totally different team.
Let's GO.
I saw the Magic! I saw the big plays, the sacks, the turnovers, and a team playing together. Breaking up passes, getting some LUCK finally, and a team that stayed together. Perhaps that OBJ release really did help. Right now we need DPJ to stay healthy and hope those turnovers keep coming. Totally different team.
Let's GO.
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Go away.
Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. I guess now you know. I'm sorry you like being tortured by this horrible play calling.
Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. I guess now you know. I'm sorry you like being tortured by this horrible play calling.
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. I guess now you know. I'm sorry you like being tortured by this horrible play calling.
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
So let’s just assume it’s an acronym and figure out what it stands for.
this could be fun.
i’m gonna say S is for sod.
An old is for off
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
So let’s just assume it’s an acronym and figure out what it stands for.
this could be fun.
i’m gonna say S is for sod.
An old is for off
So let’s just assume it’s an acronym and figure out what it stands for.
this could be fun.
i’m gonna say S is for sod.
An old is for off
I'm sure you saw me and Z going back and forth about the Bengals game. My apprehension became a lot less after Ward's 99 yard pick six. Also mentioned to the boo birds the Browns are too talented a team to go winless. Play like we did yesterday, we're going to win a lot of games. Our 2020 Coach of the year didn't start taking stupid pills this year either.
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Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
So let’s just assume it’s an acronym and figure out what it stands for.
this could be fun.
i’m gonna say S is for sod.
An old is for off
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Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. I guess now you know. I'm sorry you like being tortured by this horrible play calling.
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
Soju is a Korean rice wine, similar to Saki. Drank it a few times in Korea. It will give you a bad hangover.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Stockholm syndrome, really ? I didn't know that this was a psychiatrist couch or a Bruce Willis Christmas ? flick.
Relax Ujos it's only a football game not an airplane hijacking. Maybe I've found your problem:
From dictionary.com. soju No results found for soju.
Soju is a Korean rice wine, similar to Saki. Drank it a few times in Korea. It will give you a bad hangover.
Soju is a Korean rice wine, similar to Saki. Drank it a few times in Korea. It will give you a bad hangover.
Right you are.
You learn something new every day...
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Hats off to Stefanski for getting the team to play the best game they have under his tenure, in all 3 phases of the game, at a time when the season was on the line. He still needs to do more about the lack of discipline on the team. The penalties we had were negated by takeaways, and we can't count on us getting that many every week.
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Hats off to Stefanski for getting the team to play the best game they have under his tenure, in all 3 phases of the game, at a time when the season was on the line. He still needs to do more about the lack of discipline on the team. The penalties we had were negated by takeaways, and we can't count on us getting that many every week.
Hats off to Stefanski for getting the team to play the best game they have under his tenure, in all 3 phases of the game, at a time when the season was on the line. He still needs to do more about the lack of discipline on the team. The penalties we had were negated by takeaways, and we can't count on us getting that many every week.
Lining up offsides seems to be a "point of emphasis" this year. the Bears got dinged for it a couple times tonight....
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