Vaccination mandate

[Vambo]

@baconhound said:

I know you like to argue but the science is clear that vaccination saves lives.  If you don’t believe that, please block me.

It only helps the one vaccinated if they are not allergic to it, you can still get and transmit covid if you are vaccinated.  Not being forced to be vaccinated saves lives the science is clear.  If you don’t believe that, please block me.

[Westside Steve]

@baconhound said:

If vaccination can save one life that otherwise would have died, shouldn’t we get vaccinated? God, for a Christian society that should be a no-brainer.

Didn't realize you were coming at this issue from a standpoint of being a devout Christian but no. It's painful as it may be more people die in auto accidents if they are high speed crashes. How many lives would you save the nationwide with a 30 Mi an hour limit? But we don't do it. How about man dating a 40 minute aerobic exercise program at least three times a week? How about we make cigarettes illegal?

Yeah yeah I know...

WSS

[MLD Woody]

@westside-steve said:

Didn't realize you were coming at this issue from a standpoint of being he devout Christian but no. It's painful as it may be more people die in auto accidents if they are high speed crashes. How many lives would you save the Nationwide 30 Mi an hour limit? But we don't do it. How about man dating a 40 minute aerobic exercise program at least three times a week? How about we make cigarettes illegal?

Yeah yeah I know...

WSS

Is it legal to drive drunk?

[BaconHound]

@westside-steve said:

Didn't realize you were coming at this issue from a standpoint of being he devout Christian but no. It's painful as it may be more people die in auto accidents if they are high speed crashes. How many lives would you save the Nationwide 30 Mi an hour limit? But we don't do it. How about man dating a 40 minute aerobic exercise program at least three times a week? How about we make cigarettes illegal?

Yeah yeah I know...

WSS

But we do have speed limits.  We’ve calculated risk benefits and used science to determine best limits for certain areas. For the vast majority of people he vaccination is a prick and very mild, if any, symptoms. That is the science and the risk benefit calculation. Don’t know what the argument is.

[Vambo]

@mld-woody said:

Is it legal to drive drunk?

If you are an Illegal Immigrant!

[Westside Steve]

@mld-woody said:

Is it legal to drive drunk?

God I hope so.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

@baconhound said:

But we do have speed limits.  We’ve calculated risk benefits and used science to determine best limits for certain areas. For the vast majority of people he vaccination is a prick and very mild, if any, symptoms. That is the science and the risk benefit calculation. Don’t know what the argument is.

Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

Fill in your own descriptive term.

WSS

* including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

[bigbambo]

@baconhound said:

But we do have speed limits.  We’ve calculated risk benefits and used science to determine best limits for certain areas. For the vast majority of people he vaccination is a prick and very mild, if any, symptoms. That is the science and the risk benefit calculation. Don’t know what the argument is.

Jumpin of a cliff is just one jump...do it.........what' are the long term side effect of these vaccines?   (pssss)not really a vaccine).   OMG, we have a winner...you don't know.......now, if this goo is life threatening or you spend every waking minute scratching your anal gland.....how do you expel that shit from your body?   Ya know...it is a possibility.....look at all the class action suits.....trust them fucks ...same fucks that lied for 4 years about Trump

[bigbambo]

@westside-steve said:

Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

Fill in your own descriptive term.

WSS

* including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

You are sooooooo hung up on scared......if the unvaxxed dies at a higher percent than the vaxxed, how is there more fear in the unvaxxed?  It's just crazy talk!!!!!!!   I will avoid risks to the best of my ability...and keep my innards the way they have been for a long time.....I'm afraid of nothing but ready for anything........

[bigbambo]

@baconhound said:

I’ll keep this as simple as possible. Science/Medicine has proven that vaccination reduces the spread of the disease. A true American/Christian would do everything on their power to protect another person.  The vaccination is part of that protection.

I asked for an example....can you provide one or not?

[Westside Steve]

@bigbambo said:

You are sooooooo hung up on scared......if the unvaxxed dies at a higher percent than the vaxxed, how is there more fear in the unvaxxed?  It's just crazy talk!!!!!!!   I will avoid risks to the best of my ability...and keep my innards the way they have been for a long time.....I'm afraid of nothing but ready for anything........

Boo   I'm really not talking to you I'm talking to bacon.

Do what you want. I don't think you being vaccinated protects anybody else.

WSS

[bigbambo]

@westside-steve said:

Boo   I'm really not talking to you I'm talking to bacon.

Do what you want. I don't think you being vaccinated protects anybody else.

WSS

Sorry!

[hammertime]

Everyone is so sure of the Science…. Please.

18 months of human experiments is your science and it’s been wrong at every turn.  
if it was science they would acknowledge natural immunity.

All of a sudden the government cares about us and demands we take an experimental shot?

 I’m going to wait till all my options are gone and probaly move to a state with balls.

if any exist then.  It’s just wrong and you all know it.

[FairHooker11]

an unexpected windfall from unintended consequences 

[Browns fan 1977]

Don't tell me this is normal!

33 year old pro dancer Santo Giuliano suffers heart attack 5 days after j @b

32 year old Olympic Tennis player Joachim Gerard collapses during match with heart problems

19 year old Football player Jalen Leavey dies at campus after the game

23 year old Baseball player Daniel Brito suffers stroke during game

19 year old Football player Tirrell Williams dies following on-field collapse

21 year old Football player Okafor Kelechi dies during training

29 year old Football player Lee Moses dies during training session

15 year old Footballer Stephen Sylvester collapsed and dies during conditioning practice

18 year old Football player Emmanual Antwi dies after collapsing on the field

13 year old Football player Cajetan Chinoyelum Nsofor dies during practice

15 year old Soccer player Moira Claire Arney died during practice

Junior High School Baseball Pitcher Andrew Roseman died suddenly and unexpectedly, no further information given

17 year old Footballer Nickolas Lawrinas died suddenly and unexpectedly, cause given by media, unclear

17 year old Footballer Miquel Lugo collapsed and died during practice

16 year old Football player Devon DuHart mysteriously died in July 2021

16 year old Footballer Ivan Hicks dies of Cardiovascular Disease during Scrimmage

19 year old Footballer Joe Bradshaw dies mysteriously off campus, not conclusion of death

16 year old Football player Drake Geiger collapses and dies during game

15 year old Football player Joshua Ivory collapses and dies during game

19 year old Football player Quandarius Wilburn collapses during practice and later dies

17 year old Football player Dimitri McKee passes out and dies after practice

28 year old Rugby play Tevita Bryce collapses during game from heart attack

29 year old Rugby player Dave Hyde collapses and dies after match

27 year old Baseball player Yusuke Kinoshita collapses and dies during practice

32 year old Champion Speed Skater Kjeld Nuis suffered Pericarditis after the j @b

24 year old Olympic Cyclist Olivia Podmore dies suddenly and mysteriously in her room and during that week another athlete sprinter Cameron Burell also dies mysteriously

23 year old China Olympics Champion Gilbert Kwemoi collapsed in his home and died on the way to hospital

37-year-old former French professional footballer Franck Berrier dead

Germany goalkeeping coach of SV Niederpöring suffers heart attack

24 years Bordeaux pro Samuel Kalu suffers cardiac arrest

25 years old Belgian soccer player Jente Van Genechten suffers cardiac arrest

31 years old Fabrice N'Sakala Besiktas Istanbul collapses on the field

29 years old Pedro Obiang Italian first division after j @b has myocarditis

30 year old Venezuelan National Marathon Champion Alexaida Guedez dead

29 years old José dos Reis (Luxembourg) collapses on the field and has to be resuscitated

Germany C-League Dillenburg a player from Hirzenhain collapses, the game is canceled

16 years old Diego Ferchaud from ASPTT Caen suffers a cardiac arrest

Austria player of ASV Baden collapses on the field and has to be revived

16-year-old unnamed football player in Bergamo suffers cardiac arrest

27 years old Belgian amateur soccer player Jens De Smet dead

13-year-old soccer player from the Janus Nova club collapses on the field with cardiac arrest

17 year old soccer player Dylan Rich dies of a double heart attack during a game

Player from Birati Club Münster suffers cardiac arrest

24 years old Lucas Surek from BFC Chemie Leipzig suffers from myocarditis

49 years old Ain / France: Frédéric Lartillot succumbs to a heart attack in locker room

45 years old Andrea Astolfi, sporting director of Calcio Orsago dead with no previous illness

22 years old Abou Ali collapses with cardiac arrest during a two-tier game in Denmark

19 years old ice hockey player Sebastiaan Bos dead. Passed away suddenly and unexpectedly

40 years old A half marathon runner collapsed during the race and died a little later

Germany Anil Usta from VfB Schwelm breaks on the field with heart problems

33 years old Dimitri Liénard from FC Strasbourg collapses with heart problems

37 years old Ex-NFL professional Parys Haralson dies suddenly and unexpectedly

25 years old Kingsley Coman from FC Bayern Munich, operation on the heart after an arrhythmia

25 years old Canadian university football player Francis Perron dead shortly after a match

19 year old FC Nantes soccer player suffers cardiac arrest during training

Germany volleyball trainer Dirk Splisteser from SG Traktor Divitz collapses dead on the sidelines

Austria, 64 years old former goalkeeper Ernst Scherr dead suddenly and unexpectedly

Germany, 42 years old Alexander Siegfried dead suddenly and unexpectedly

A 17-year-old athlete from Colverde collapses while training with cardiac arrest

[DieHardBrownsFan]

All over the world, statistically, probably is.

[LogicIsForSquares]

The vaccine doesn’t stop the spread of the virus. It mitigates the potential for dangerous side effects from contracting Covid. 
 

Everyone in a room could be vaccinated, asymptomatic carriers who become the chemistry set that creates the next strand of Covid that chugs along infecting more people. The framing for wanting people to get it should be based around mitigating individual health side effects and not that it can stop the spread. The barn door is already open so that is over in terms of stopping that. 

[JAFBF]

[JAFBF]

[FairHooker11]

@jafbf said:

yes because they either selectively chose to ignore the findings - leaving it up to individuals to think this through themselves

(watching published data) 

Apart from the fear porn perpetrated by the news media and government to keep alive the notion that this is a certain death sentence.

It is not.

Or they are plain stupid for not compiling crucial data the explains why we are not dying off in droves - that the survival rate is as such 

One thing is certain - Covid 19.20, 21 etc will be in our lives (thanks fauci, wuhan lab- CCP ) 

But the hope remains too - it is treatable and with great success without the use of untested vaccines...