Baker Mayfield
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-- 34 minutes of agreement with tia.JT O'Sullivan [QB School channel] is a pretty good analyst.
"This video is about to be a damn hour long because I can't get over throwing a pick to a post safety on a post route"
"This video is about to be a damn hour long because I can't get over throwing a pick to a post safety on a post route"
I've had this sitting on my desktop for over a week now, because I kept going back to that play too. It's no surprise to me that anybody else with a pair of eyes saw what I did.
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This is actually similar route structure to the play I drew up from the Brett Kollomann video. The flood with the skinny po where he claimed OBJ was being used as a "decoy" when he wasn't. Instead of taking the post 1 on 1 and understanding the principles of how to attack cover 6, Baker took the '7' on that particular play. It was open and it was a first down, but it was something I argued about failing to maximize your vertical talent.
But In this play, you have that same skinny po which clears out the corner and draws the MFS. Funny thing is, you can still beat MOTFC closed looks with post combos, but not at this depth, not with your downfield accuracy issues and not with receivers who are still trying to find their footing. What's worse is Baker had SO much time to look at this play and take the safe, smart and completely wide open throw after he saw Douglas void and Higgins clear under. Instead he thought the MFS sitting flat footed wouldn't recover. Usually Baker has enough arm, but this is where I talk about nuance and situational awareness. Baker lacks it a great deal most of the time. You're pushing the ball into a look that makes your deep post not a viable route. Take what's easy, take what's given and save your arm man.
I have no explanation for Bakers thought process here, it defies football I.Q. When he has a chance to do the smart thing, he rather routinely does the opposite and when he does said opposite it leads to stalled drives and picks that setup opposing offenses on a short field.
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You can't educate the intentionally ignorant tia. They are just transferring over here because no one tries to engage them anymore where they live for that exact same reason.
You can't educate the intentionally ignorant tia. They are just transferring over here because no one tries to engage them anymore where they live for that exact same reason.
Who? What?
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You can't educate the intentionally ignorant tia. They are just transferring over here because no one tries to engage them anymore where they live for that exact same reason.
Who? What?
Who? What?
Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
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Who? What?
Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
oh, you mean the guy who smarts off, can't back it up, then goes and has modular hidsies and seeksies instead of
answering the question I posed. So, the "question was wrong, so I had to not answer it".
lol.
what a Baker hater.
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Who? What?
Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
Sounds as if you have been to the political forum on here
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"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Sounds as if you have been to the trumpulumpigus forum on here.
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FIFY?
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Sounds as if you have been to the trumpulumpigus forum on here.
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FIFY?
FIFY?
That works too
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Sounds as if you have been to the political forum on here
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He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
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Sounds as if you have been to the political forum on here
???
He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
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Possible places for Baker next season..lol
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Possible places for Baker next season..lol
Possible places for Baker next season..lol
Can we trade him to Houston?
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The thing that I have the most problem with, is Baker is a 1 read QB, if his first read is there, he can fire the ball and be great, but when that isn’t there, he struggles
People keep saying, he can be good enough when things are going well
But in 2022, you need a guy that can win games, when things are not going well
And Baker has proven that he can’t win games when things are not going well
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Sounds as if you have been to the political forum on here
???
He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
Nope, when the opposing opinion doesn't suit your POV you just keep on keeping on with whataboutism until the other side gives up. A prime example is you trying to defect the FACT that Baker had a shitful game against the Steelers "Well whatabout Ben had a lousy game too".. You're hopeless.
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He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
Nope, when the opposing opinion doesn't suit your POV you just keep on keeping on with whataboutism until the other side gives up. A prime example is you trying to defect the FACT that Baker had a shitful game against the Steelers "Well whatabout Ben had a lousy game too".. You're hopeless.
Nope, when the opposing opinion doesn't suit your POV you just keep on keeping on with whataboutism until the other side gives up. A prime example is you trying to defect the FACT that Baker had a shitful game against the Steelers "Well whatabout Ben had a lousy game too".. You're hopeless.
I didn't say that at all. Not a bit. I simply asked you a simple question, and you went quiet. Your ego couldn't handle the truth. Tiam knows his football, and HE couldn't bail you out on that one. Your ego driven assumptions got the best of you on both forums.
Have a nice day.
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Not you, the other guy. Because if he repeats something 20 times, that makes it correct. What happens is the other folks just get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall and give up.
oh, you mean the guy who smarts off, can't back it up, then goes and has modular hidsies and seeksies instead of
answering the question I posed. So, the "question was wrong, so I had to not answer it".
lol.
what a Baker hater.
oh, you mean the guy who smarts off, can't back it up, then goes and has modular hidsies and seeksies instead of
answering the question I posed. So, the "question was wrong, so I had to not answer it".
lol.
what a Baker hater.
Absolutely no one on here thinks you ever own anyone on any discussion.
Strike that... I suppose if the topic of skinning and cooking a rodent came up, you would be the resident genius on this topic.
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Here's where I'm at, in terms of how I see it for 2022
1) If we can get Wilson, Rodgers, or Carr- do it and call it a day. Obviously, the prospect of getting the first two is around 1% but Carr, to me, is a perfect fit for this offense. I think a straight trade is an intriguing prospect for both teams as well, assuming the Browns dangle a good carrot (say, a 2nd round pick that can turn into a 1st). Raiders might see what Wentz is doing and think Mayfield can be the same?
1A) Mayfield heals up and the Browns bring in some serious, legit competition. I personally don't see any eye popping free agent QB's who fit that mold, so maybe using the 2nd round pick on a prospect lights that fire under his ass.
I like both scenarios on their own, but Carr really, really intrigues me. I think he's everything Stefanski wants Baker to be and could be very attainable.
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Nope, when the opposing opinion doesn't suit your POV you just keep on keeping on with whataboutism until the other side gives up. A prime example is you trying to defect the FACT that Baker had a shitful game against the Steelers "Well whatabout Ben had a lousy game too".. You're hopeless.
I didn't say that at all. Not a bit. I simply asked you a simple question, and you went quiet. Your ego couldn't handle the truth. Tiam knows his football, and HE couldn't bail you out on that one. Your ego driven assumptions got the best of you on both forums.
Have a nice day.
I didn't say that at all. Not a bit. I simply asked you a simple question, and you went quiet. Your ego couldn't handle the truth. Tiam knows his football, and HE couldn't bail you out on that one. Your ego driven assumptions got the best of you on both forums.
Have a nice day.
Yes you did, you directly compared Baker's performance to Ben's trying to bail out the 53 qbr shit performance Mayfield stunk out the stadium with.
He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
Hey, and you can't admit the next great AFC North qb Joe Burrow's 4,600 passing yards and 108 qbr has anything to do with it. We cry know mas because you're a damn broken record of whataboutism and deflection. FACT You can't even realize when you've been backed into a corner, and some of the crap you've posted has been debunked multiple times by guys who know a hell of a lot more about football than you do, and you just keep spinning away. Your act is getting real old. Legend in your own warped mind. FWIW, I left the political forum because there's too many guys there living in some alternate reality, including one very obvious QAnon nut job. So please do us all a favor and head over to your safe space there where you can spew crap to your heart's content.
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I didn't say that at all. Not a bit. I simply asked you a simple question, and you went quiet. Your ego couldn't handle the truth. Tiam knows his football, and HE couldn't bail you out on that one. Your ego driven assumptions got the best of you on both forums.
Have a nice day.
Yes you did, you directly compared Baker's performance to Ben's trying to bail out the 53 qbr shit performance Mayfield stunk out the stadium with.
He left that forum because he got embarrassed. Now, Ja'Marr Chase and the Bengals made him cry "no mas".
He just gets that way sometimes......
Hey, and you can't admit the next great AFC North qb Joe Burrow's 4,600 passing yards and 108 qbr has anything to do with it. We cry know mas because you're a damn broken record of whataboutism and deflection. FACT You can't even realize when you've been backed into a corner, and some of the crap you've posted has been debunked multiple times by guys who know a hell of a lot more about football than you do, and you just keep spinning away. Your act is getting real old. Legend in your own warped mind. FWIW, I left the political forum because there's too many guys there living in some alternate reality, including one very obvious QAnon nut job. So please do us all a favor and head over to your safe space there where you can spew crap to your heart's content.
Yes you did, you directly compared Baker's performance to Ben's trying to bail out the 53 qbr shit performance Mayfield stunk out the stadium with.
Hey, and you can't admit the next great AFC North qb Joe Burrow's 4,600 passing yards and 108 qbr has anything to do with it. We cry know mas because you're a damn broken record of whataboutism and deflection. FACT You can't even realize when you've been backed into a corner, and some of the crap you've posted has been debunked multiple times by guys who know a hell of a lot more about football than you do, and you just keep spinning away. Your act is getting real old. Legend in your own warped mind. FWIW, I left the political forum because there's too many guys there living in some alternate reality, including one very obvious QAnon nut job. So please do us all a favor and head over to your safe space there where you can spew crap to your heart's content.
I wasn't comparing, I was countering your egotistical bs. I've watched more football games than a lot of young guys. I simply let you know your "facts" are worthless - because it's a TEAM GAME. You can't see the forest for the trees. You see one tree and think the entire forest is that same kind of tree.
Very strange. Other people are entitled to their own opinions. My opinions are sometimes dumb, but they are mine - from observing the Browns and football over the years. Stop trying to use my views on the other forum to distract from me not agreeing with you like a groupie.
You must be kidding - bragging on Burrow's yards, when he has a 5th overall star wr? lol. I honestly think you are smarter than that. I can answer your football questions.
You are backed into a corner - you refuse to admit that adding Ja'Marr Chase to the offense was an explosion of productivity for Burrow.
You are looking very foolish here. Bragging on Burrow's stats this year, MAKE MY POINT.
I'll prove it - (although proof is always? lost on you)
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/players/game-log/2020/2179798/joe-burrow/
Everybody on this forum can look - the Bengals, last year, lost THREE, won ONE, Lost THREE, won ONE.
the LOST THREE MORE and he was injured.
So, lol, you can go ahead and give Burrow great big amoochies, but the truth is, Ja'Marr Chase set that offense on fire.
See, they did NOT HAVE A NUMBER ONE last year. Same qb.
Burrow's qb rating LAST YEAR WITHOUT CHASE, he had bad games - 66.1 qb rating, 66.4 ....
nine losses last year, Hoorta. same qb.
So, another question. Do you believe the difference is Ja'Marr Chase or not?
you cherry pick "facts" to fit your ego driven narrative. same old.
It's a team game. Idolizing only the steering wheel, or only blaming the steering wheel, is dumb.
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Here's where I'm at, in terms of how I see it for 2022
1) If we can get Wilson, Rodgers, or Carr- do it and call it a day. Obviously, the prospect of getting the first two is around 1% but Carr, to me, is a perfect fit for this offense. I think a straight trade is an intriguing prospect for both teams as well, assuming the Browns dangle a good carrot (say, a 2nd round pick that can turn into a 1st). Raiders might see what Wentz is doing and think Mayfield can be the same?
1A) Mayfield heals up and the Browns bring in some serious, legit competition. I personally don't see any eye popping free agent QB's who fit that mold, so maybe using the 2nd round pick on a prospect lights that fire under his ass.
I like both scenarios on their own, but Carr really, really intrigues me. I think he's everything Stefanski wants Baker to be and could be very attainable.
Here's where I'm at, in terms of how I see it for 2022
1) If we can get Wilson, Rodgers, or Carr- do it and call it a day. Obviously, the prospect of getting the first two is around 1% but Carr, to me, is a perfect fit for this offense. I think a straight trade is an intriguing prospect for both teams as well, assuming the Browns dangle a good carrot (say, a 2nd round pick that can turn into a 1st). Raiders might see what Wentz is doing and think Mayfield can be the same?
1A) Mayfield heals up and the Browns bring in some serious, legit competition. I personally don't see any eye popping free agent QB's who fit that mold, so maybe using the 2nd round pick on a prospect lights that fire under his ass.
I like both scenarios on their own, but Carr really, really intrigues me. I think he's everything Stefanski wants Baker to be and could be very attainable.
I think Derrick Carr is the only realistic option. But I don't know about giving up a first or 2nd. I guess it depends on how much/if they want to move on from Baker. I think sticking with Baker and Drafting someone in the 2nd or 3rd might be better.
I liked Carr more before I saw him play in the game against our backup JV squad.
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Here's where I'm at, in terms of how I see it for 2022
1) If we can get Wilson, Rodgers, or Carr- do it and call it a day. Obviously, the prospect of getting the first two is around 1% but Carr, to me, is a perfect fit for this offense. I think a straight trade is an intriguing prospect for both teams as well, assuming the Browns dangle a good carrot (say, a 2nd round pick that can turn into a 1st). Raiders might see what Wentz is doing and think Mayfield can be the same?
1A) Mayfield heals up and the Browns bring in some serious, legit competition. I personally don't see any eye popping free agent QB's who fit that mold, so maybe using the 2nd round pick on a prospect lights that fire under his ass.
I like both scenarios on their own, but Carr really, really intrigues me. I think he's everything Stefanski wants Baker to be and could be very attainable.
I think Derrick Carr is the only realistic option. But I don't know about giving up a first or 2nd. I guess it depends on how much/if they want to move on from Baker. I think sticking with Baker and Drafting someone in the 2nd or 3rd might be better.
I liked Carr more before I saw him play in the game against our backup JV squad.
I think Derrick Carr is the only realistic option. But I don't know about giving up a first or 2nd. I guess it depends on how much/if they want to move on from Baker. I think sticking with Baker and Drafting someone in the 2nd or 3rd might be better.
I liked Carr more before I saw him play in the game against our backup JV squad.
It is not a great draft for qb's. Next year, yes. A Garrett Wilson would have the similar effect that Chase had with the Bengals. Then, if a healthy Baker isn't up to it - you know the first pick in the 2023 draft will be a qb.
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