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  • And to expound a little Tex ... Borrowing one of Cal's  arguments.  That little twerp Alabama Heisman winning qb sure can look great with a couple great WR receivers,  stud running backs, and an NFL worthy caliber o-line, playing against inferior competition.  He met his match today against an eqally talented Georgia team. Woof, woof.  😁

    @hoorta said:

    And to expound a little Tex ... Borrowing one of Cal's  arguments.  That little twerp Alabama Heisman winning qb sure can look great with a couple great WR receivers,  stud running backs, and an NFL worthy caliber o-line, playing against inferior competition.  He met his match today against an eqally talented Georgia team. Woof, woof.  😁

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    @hoorta said:

    Sorry, tough to lose your top two WRs due to injury...  But I have no love for Alabama anymore with their run of National Championships.  Saban a great Coach? That program recruits itself.... They routinely reject 5 stars that go on to be studs at other programs.  BTW THE Ohio State University managed to beat Utah with their top two WRs sitting out the Rose Bowl game getting ready for the combine, that is- if they even bother to show up for that....  🙁  

    And Utah is not Georgia. That game last night showed why I call the SEC NFL Jr. The power in the lines and overall speed of both teams showed how they are loaded with NFL level talent. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    Bama's LT Evan Neal is a legit top 5 pick..

    Sickening feeling watching Jameson Williams missing the rest of the NC game..

    1) showed the shake to get off LOS

    2) showed the extending hands catching ball over the middle

    3) showed the separation speed flying down the seam to his final catch..

    Man... ya just hope Jay Will gets some good injury news ?

    Williams going down was the key to the loss. You can't lose your two best receivers that you used to beat Georgia earlier and expect to beat that defense again. Way too many receiver drops for Bama to compete.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Williams going down was the key to the loss. You can't lose your two best receivers that you used to beat Georgia earlier and expect to beat that defense again.

    Way too many receiver drops for Bama to compete.

    Feared & looks of a ACL injury for Williams? MRI today..hope I'm wrong..

    Some have John Metchie falling down to the 50's as a prospect... I'm not buying that one

    Happy for Kirby Smart.. Those were the same dawgs, I remember seeing, but for 1 bowl game..

    a lot of 6 man protection fronts. Bennett got a xtra tick to work with.. Picked on Jobe's missing side..

    I thought the dawgs FG block was a huge turning point..

    ugly edit... 

    nothing confirmed as of 6 pm..

    https://www.si.com/college/2022/01/11/jameson-williams-injury-santonio-holmes-blames-turf-lucas-oil-stadium

  • dammit but Jordan Davis is a giant of a man.

    https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-lineman-jordan-davis-wins-130000636.html

    and here's Davis talking about not being in good conditioning the last time...

    https://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/jordan-davis-georgia-conditioning-alabama/590028

  • @hoorta said:

    And to expound a little Tex ... Borrowing one of Cal's  arguments.  That little twerp Alabama Heisman winning qb sure can look great with a couple great WR receivers,  stud running backs, and an NFL worthy caliber o-line, playing against inferior competition.  He met his match today against an eqally talented Georgia team. Woof, woof.  😁

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    @hoorta said:

    Sorry, tough to lose your top two WRs due to injury...  But I have no love for Alabama anymore with their run of National Championships.  Saban a great Coach? That program recruits itself.... They routinely reject 5 stars that go on to be studs at other programs.  BTW THE Ohio State University managed to beat Utah with their top two WRs sitting out the Rose Bowl game getting ready for the combine, that is- if they even bother to show up for that....  🙁  

    And Utah is not Georgia. That game last night showed why I call the SEC NFL Jr. The power in the lines and overall speed of both teams showed how they are loaded with NFL level talent. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    Was it because the SEC had to step outside of their own backyard last night?

  • @hoorta said:

    And to expound a little Tex ... Borrowing one of Cal's  arguments.  That little twerp Alabama Heisman winning qb sure can look great with a couple great WR receivers,  stud running backs, and an NFL worthy caliber o-line, playing against inferior competition.  He met his match today against an eqally talented Georgia team. Woof, woof.  😁

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    @hoorta said:

    Sorry, tough to lose your top two WRs due to injury...  But I have no love for Alabama anymore with their run of National Championships.  Saban a great Coach? That program recruits itself.... They routinely reject 5 stars that go on to be studs at other programs.  BTW THE Ohio State University managed to beat Utah with their top two WRs sitting out the Rose Bowl game getting ready for the combine, that is- if they even bother to show up for that....  🙁  

    And Utah is not Georgia. That game last night showed why I call the SEC NFL Jr. The power in the lines and overall speed of both teams showed how they are loaded with NFL level talent. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    And Utah is not Georgia. That game last night showed why I call the SEC NFL Jr. The power in the lines and overall speed of both teams showed how they are loaded with NFL level talent. 

    1) Hard to beat a quality team twice in a row.  Georgia was the better team based on the entire season, with the SEC Championship game the outlier. Their scores against common opponents says so. 

    2) True dat. Ohio State is right up there with the SEC in recruiting power. As was mentioned in the  Rose Bowl game,  State could pull 5 star wide receivers out of the closet. Do you remember a guy by the name of Joe Burrow had to transfer to LSU because he was sunk on the quarterback depth chart at OSU? OK, big coaching mistake there. 😁 In a way it's sad, that the rich get richer. There's only a handful of schools anymore who can harbor National title aspirations every year.  

  • I’m only in for 1st Round top 15 WR if they are a generational talent.  Haven’t had a chance to look at LBer prospects yet but would hope at some point we get one that can play.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    The earlier SEC Championship game looked far different.

    Was it because the SEC had to step outside of their own backyard last night?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Was it because the SEC had to step outside of their own backyard last night?

    The SEC game was in Georgia, the backyard of the Dogs.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Williams going down was the key to the loss. You can't lose your two best receivers that you used to beat Georgia earlier and expect to beat that defense again.

    Way too many receiver drops for Bama to compete.

    Feared & looks of a ACL injury for Williams? MRI today..hope I'm wrong..

    Some have John Metchie falling down to the 50's as a prospect... I'm not buying that one

    Happy for Kirby Smart.. Those were the same dawgs, I remember seeing, but for 1 bowl game..

    a lot of 6 man protection fronts. Bennett got a xtra tick to work with.. Picked on Jobe's missing side..

    I thought the dawgs FG block was a huge turning point..

    ugly edit... 

    nothing confirmed as of 6 pm..

    https://www.si.com/college/2022/01/11/jameson-williams-injury-santonio-holmes-blames-turf-lucas-oil-stadium

    @gumby73 said:

    Feared & looks of a ACL injury for Williams? MRI today..hope I'm wrong..

    Some have John Metchie falling down to the 50's as a prospect... I'm not buying that one

    Happy for Kirby Smart.. Those were the same dawgs, I remember seeing, but for 1 bowl game..

    a lot of 6 man protection fronts. Bennett got a xtra tick to work with.. Picked on Jobe's missing side..

    I thought the dawgs FG block was a huge turning point..

    ugly edit...  nothing confirmed as of 1 pm..

    https://www.si.com/college/2022/01/11/jameson-williams-injury-santonio-holmes-blames-turf-lucas-oil-stadium

    Yeah assuming he did blow is ACL, you have to wonder how that will affect his draft stock? Out of the first round? He certainly won't be able to do anything at the Combine, short of interviews. Any team that drafts him will have to do so knowing he's not playing in 2022.  

    I'm old enough to remember back in the olden days prior to advanced orthopedic surgery NFL guys played their entire careers minus an ACL... Used to be called a "trick knee". 

  • I was watching the game with Jimbo Fisher's staff commenting throughout. As soon as it happened and while he was going down Fisher said, "There went the ACL." 

  • At the 13th overall pick, I've got eight WRs and DEs to possibly choose from. As the process goes a few might fall off - too much of a reach for such a high pick - but here they are:

    DE George Karlaftis 6'4, 275 Purdue
    DE Arnold Ebiketie 6'3, 256 Penn State
    DE David Ojabo 6'5, 250 TTUN

    WR Garrett Wilson 6'0, 192 Ohio State
    WR Chris Olave 6'1, 188 Ohio State
    WR Jameson Williams 6'2, 189 Alabama
    WR Treylon Burks 6'3, 225 Arkansas
    WR Drake London 6'5, 210 USC

    @dutch-oven said:

    At the 13th overall pick, I've got eight WRs and DEs to possibly choose from. As the process goes a few might fall off - too much of a reach for such a high pick - but here they are:

    DE George Karlaftis 6'4, 275 Purdue
    DE Arnold Ebiketie 6'3, 256 Penn State
    DE David Ojabo 6'5, 250 TTUN

    WR Garrett Wilson 6'0, 192 Ohio State
    WR Chris Olave 6'1, 188 Ohio State
    WR Jameson Williams 6'2, 189 Alabama
    WR Treylon Burks 6'3, 225 Arkansas
    WR Drake London 6'5, 210 USC

    At this point I think I’d love either Burks or London. Big bodies guys who can catch. Perhaps in the 3rd I would look for a smaller speedy receiver. 

  • hate it...

    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources.
    Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.
    6:50 PM · Jan 11, 2022
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources. Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.
  • @dutch-oven said:

    At the 13th overall pick, I've got eight WRs and DEs to possibly choose from. As the process goes a few might fall off - too much of a reach for such a high pick - but here they are:

    DE George Karlaftis 6'4, 275 Purdue
    DE Arnold Ebiketie 6'3, 256 Penn State
    DE David Ojabo 6'5, 250 TTUN

    WR Garrett Wilson 6'0, 192 Ohio State
    WR Chris Olave 6'1, 188 Ohio State
    WR Jameson Williams 6'2, 189 Alabama
    WR Treylon Burks 6'3, 225 Arkansas
    WR Drake London 6'5, 210 USC

    At this point I think I’d love either Burks or London. Big bodies guys who can catch. Perhaps in the 3rd I would look for a smaller speedy receiver. 

    @jcam222 said:

    At this point I think I’d love either Burks or London. Big bodies guys who can catch. Perhaps in the 3rd I would look for a smaller speedy receiver. 

    I'd probably go with Wilson if they were all available, but Burks and London would be very intriguing. 

    And I know safety isn't a big need, but speaking of intriguing, Notre Dame's Kyle Hamilton is another Irish player I'd love to have on the Browns defense.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Was it because the SEC had to step outside of their own backyard last night?

    The SEC game was in Georgia, the backyard of the Dogs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    The SEC game was in Georgia, the backyard of the Dogs.

    Last nights game was played north of the Mason Dixon in Indianapolis.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    The SEC game was in Georgia, the backyard of the Dogs.

    Last nights game was played north of the Mason Dixon in Indianapolis.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Last nights game was played north of the Mason Dixon in Indianapolis.

    And your point was????

  • I'd go first round WR second round IDL third round DE.

    The performance of the 2021 draft class was pretty great.. but we do have holes to fill against the good teams and most of those holes were created by the opposing team's OL.

    First-round pick isn't far enough -- second and third round are starters also.  Or at least should be.

    Note that the guy we all thought we wanted in 2020 rd3 -Baron Browning- appears to be clueless in the passD game even with his athleticism.. so that would've been a miss of a pick also.  Apparently the best performing of the players still on the board at the pick of Schwartz have been C Meinerz [DEN], WR Amon-Ra [DET], CB Elijah Molden [TEN].  Of course RB michael carter [NYJ] is good but that wouldn't have happened.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I'd go first round WR second round IDL third round DE.

    The performance of the 2021 draft class was pretty great.. but we do have holes to fill against the good teams and most of those holes were created by the opposing team's OL.

    First-round pick isn't far enough -- second and third round are starters also.  Or at least should be.

    This ^^

    with most mocks I've run or seen..  IDL in the 2nd rd. over the DE position? has a better look/feel in results...but...

    This class of 3rd rounders? starters? feels like a whole lot of back-ups  ?   

    edit--Wide Receiver, Edge and iDL. Wide Receiver, Edge and iDL. 

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Cleveland-Browns-The-Weekly-Mock-Draft-As-The-Offseason-Ramps-Up-180386822/#180386822_6

    all was going so well, up until RD.3/4 ?

  • hate it...

    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources.
    Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.
    6:50 PM · Jan 11, 2022
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources. Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.

    @gumby73 said:

    hate it...

    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources.
    Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.

    watching that game, when Williams got hurt - my Wife said "He probably has a torn ACL".... she played sports in college...

    9 months. That's sad for him. Still first round?

    https://orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/v

  • @gumby73 said:

    hate it...

    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources.
    Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.

    watching that game, when Williams got hurt - my Wife said "He probably has a torn ACL".... she played sports in college...

    9 months. That's sad for him. Still first round?

    https://orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/v

    @calfoxwc said:

    watching that game, when Williams got hurt - my Wife said "He probably has a torn ACL".... she played sports in college...

    9 months. That's sad for him. Still first round?

    https://orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/v

    All indications are that he will recover just fine, so yes, I'd sure give him serious consideration.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    I'd go first round WR second round IDL third round DE.

    The performance of the 2021 draft class was pretty great.. but we do have holes to fill against the good teams and most of those holes were created by the opposing team's OL.

    First-round pick isn't far enough -- second and third round are starters also.  Or at least should be.

    This ^^

    with most mocks I've run or seen..  IDL in the 2nd rd. over the DE position? has a better look/feel in results...but...

    This class of 3rd rounders? starters? feels like a whole lot of back-ups  ?   

    edit--Wide Receiver, Edge and iDL. Wide Receiver, Edge and iDL. 

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Cleveland-Browns-The-Weekly-Mock-Draft-As-The-Offseason-Ramps-Up-180386822/#180386822_6

    all was going so well, up until RD.3/4 ?

    @gumby73 said:

    This class of 3rd rounders?

    I'm not against double-dipping into WR in rd3 instead of Edge - resigning clowney and mckinley seems probable.

    Many mocks have Metchie / Tolbert / Pickens available and potentially zay flowers / david bell as well.

    Alec Pierce looks just as slow as Mossaquoi -- unless we're aiming to have Old Man Landry show him how not to beat man coverage.

  • @gumby73 said:

    hate it...

    Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources.
    Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.

    watching that game, when Williams got hurt - my Wife said "He probably has a torn ACL".... she played sports in college...

    9 months. That's sad for him. Still first round?

    https://orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/v

    @calfoxwc said:

    9 months. That's sad for him. Still first round?

    https://orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/v

    Williams committed yesterday... can't say i don't blame him..

    name a playoff team that could not get richer picking Jameson even after pick #18?

    not many teams are as desperate as us at the position.. 

    @unsympathetic said:

    I'm not against double-dipping into WR in rd3 instead of Edge - resigning clowney and mckinley seems probable.

    Many mocks have Metchie / Tolbert / Pickens available and potentially zay flowers / david bell as well.

    I think we all learned a lot on how Berry handled the Shelton Richardson reconstruction... and I don't see Berry re-landing Jarvis Landry's either...

    I'm not against WR's in 1st & 2nd round at this point ?... (I'd be shocked if Metchie gets out of RD'2..but yes, I see what your seeing) 

    I'm with you on Clowney & Tak... We've seen worse...don't go backwards at key positions  

    Berry better know the cards he's dealing with...