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  • Louisville Slugger Louisville SluggerL
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    Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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    I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

    Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

    I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

    Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

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      I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

      Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

      I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

      Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

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      @louisville-slugger said:

      I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

      Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

      I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

      Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

      Clowney has said he wants to remain here...

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        I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

        Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

        I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

        Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

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        @louisville-slugger said:

        Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

        Without Clowney we'll need to find a new DE to compliment Myles....because the cupboard will be bare.  Clowney's agent won't say it, but we all know it, having Myles on the other side certainly made Clowney's job easier.

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          Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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          I hear ya guys. I'd like to have him back but there's no way I'd give him a long term deal. He's just too injury prone and I feel like we should be able to get a cheaper and more consistent alternative. 

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            I hear ya guys. I'd like to have him back but there's no way I'd give him a long term deal. He's just too injury prone and I feel like we should be able to get a cheaper and more consistent alternative. 

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            @louisville-slugger said:

            I hear ya guys. I'd like to have him back but there's no way I'd give him a long term deal. He's just too injury prone and I feel like we should be able to get a cheaper and more consistent alternative. 

            just workout a series of "1 year deals"

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              @louisville-slugger said:

              I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

              Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

              I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

              Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

              Clowney has said he wants to remain here...

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              @nickers said:

              Clowney has said he wants to remain here...

              Well if he also says he'll come back cheap great.

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                PFF top 100 FA's.. Clowney just as our 1st round pick is lucky #13.. includes projected deals. that most take a 1 year deal.. (but, gm's will have extra cap ?)

                https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

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                  I hope they keep Clooney, his shoe toss is grade A. 

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                    Clowney is far better than anyone available in FA or at pick 13.  I'm really not sure what player or players anyone seriously thinks would be a viable replacement for him.

                    Jadeveon Clowney - Most Definitely
                    David Njoku - Most Definitely
                    M.J. Stewart - Most Definitely, PFF rating 80.8.  I'd definitely rather have him and a mid-round draftpick [Yusuf Corker or RJ Roderick in the 5th?] than Harrison.
                    Nick Mullens - Definitely
                    Porter Gustin - Definitely [depending on other FA action]
                    Michael Dunn  - Definitely
                    Blake Hance - Definitely if under 1m.  Decent not great.
                    D'ernest Johnson - Negotiate, see what he wants

                    Ignore:
                    Takkarist McKinley
                    Malik Jackson
                    Chris Hubbard
                    Anthony Walker Jr.
                    Rashard Higgins
                    Malcolm Smith
                    Dustin Colquitt
                    Elijah Lee
                    Ifeadi Odenigbo
                    Ryan Switzer
                    Dexter Williams
                    Montrel Meander
                    Stephen Carlson
                    Ronnie Harrison
                    Ja'Marcus Bradley
                    Chase McLaughlin
                    Malik McDowell

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      Re: Mcdowell - You can tell, especially by midseason, that his long term conditioning (that 16 game grind body) wasn't where it needed to be.  The guy has been out of football for a while and the obvious effects presented themselves as things would drag on.

                      A full offseason may do him a world of good and he was incredibly disruptive when fresh.  I think to simply say "ignore" is unwise.

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                        hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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                        They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                        Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

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                          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Of the UFAs, I'd like to keep Clowney, and perhaps Walker, Nojoku and M.J. Stewart. The rest can try their luck.

                          Of the Restricted FAs, I see only McDowell and D'ernest as important.

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                          Walker is too slow... I think we can do better there...

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                            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                            Seems that M.J. Stewart won't be coming back

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                              They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                              Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

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                              nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                              @hx214 said:

                              They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                              Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

                              Clowney did well this season... Id give him a series of 1 year deals...

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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                MaYbe I should not have loaded this yesterday morning? ?

                                DT upgrades....  Bengals BJ Hill... is another young consideration (Ogun also had a good season..sad he'll miss this week)

                                INTERIOR DEFENDERS

                                *D.J. Jones, San Francisco 49ers

                                As if Jones’ regular season performance wasn’t strong enough heading into a crucial offseason, his 2022 playoff debut against the Dallas Cowboys put an exclamation point on his breakout campaign, as he recorded a huge 13-yard sack on quarterback Dak Prescott.

                                Jones earned a career-high 73.2 grade for the 2021 season that illustrated why the 49ers made sure to sign him during the first week of free agency last offseason, and he’s played his way into a solid multi-year payday as a result. Jones accrued 40 defensive stops in 2021 after amassing 43 total in his first four seasons. His 14 tackles for loss or no gain in 2021 were second to only Aaron Donald among all interior defenders despite playing roughly half as many snaps as the Los Angeles Rams‘ phenom. 

                                Maliek Collins, Houston Texans

                                Collins signed consecutive one-year deals for 2020 and 2021 and will now look to ink a multi-year deal while he's still young, as he will be 27 years old during Week 1 of the 2022 season. Collins earned a career-high 66.5 grade and continued to demonstrate his durability, as he played over 500 snaps for the sixth straight season. 

                                Collins always demonstrated upside as an interior pass-rusher, but his 61.8 run defense grade in 2021 was also a career-high despite playing on a defense tht lacked talent throughout the front seven. Collins doesn’t quit on any snap, and his tenacity in a losing situation was admirable. He can be a valuable asset for any team, even if he's not a true difference-maker. 

                                Teams that should be interested: Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns, New York Jets

                                DT production & pay scale  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/defensive-tackle/all/  (while your in? OT may also have upgrades to C.Hubbard?)

                                edit--- top IDL fa's--- https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-free-agency-rankings-interior-defensive-linemen

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                                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                  bump time...

                                     NFL franchise tag window: Teams can start placing the franchise tag on players February 21 with a deadline of March 8 to tender said players. The NFL free-agent negotiating window opens on March 14 with a March 16 date for teams to be able to sign outside free agents.

                                  Franchise and transition tenders are calculated by adding the respective tag numbers, divided by the sum of the salary caps, from the previous five seasons, and finally multipled by the current season's salary cap. Franchise tag figures are based upon the top five salaries at each respective position, while transition tag figures are based on the top ten.

                                  RFA tenders are calculated by increasing the previous year's respective tender by the same rate as the increase of the salary cap.

                                  2022 Projected Franchise and Transition Tenders

                                  Position Franchise Tag Transition Tag
                                  QB $28,598,000 $25,651,000
                                  DE $20,186,000 $16,623,000
                                  WR $19,127,000 $16,740,000
                                  LB $17,417,000 $14,882,000
                                  CB $17,295,000 $14,904,000
                                  DT $16,888,000 $13,596,000
                                  OL $16,698,000 $14,997,000
                                  S $13,544,000 $11,265,000
                                  RB $12,536,000 $10,148,000
                                  TE $10,834,000 $9,332,000
                                  ST $5,469,000 $4,980,000

                                  2022 Projected RFA Tenders

                                  Type Amount
                                  First Round $5,562,000
                                  Second Round $3,986,000
                                  Right of First Refusal $2,433,000

                                  Restricted we have 5... De'Ernest Johnson/Chase McLaughlin/Stephen Carlson/Montrel Meander/Ifeadi Odenigbo/

                                  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cleveland-browns/   Denzel Ward needs a Extension & J. Clowney needs taken off the market...

                                  Clowney/Njoku? nah... https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/2022-Browns-Franchise-Tag-Primer-183250280/

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                                    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                                    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

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                                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                    @hx214 said:

                                    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                                    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

                                    I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

                                    Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

                                    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

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                                      @hx214 said:

                                      They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

                                      Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

                                      I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

                                      Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

                                      Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                      Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

                                      Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

                                        Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

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                                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bob806 said:

                                        Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

                                        If the plan is to re-boot the WR room?  Losing Landry now, would totally suck ?

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

                                          Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

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                                          @bob806 said:

                                          Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

                                          Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. 😁 The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

                                          Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

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