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  • PFF top 100 FA's.. Clowney just as our 1st round pick is lucky #13.. includes projected deals. that most take a 1 year deal.. (but, gm's will have extra cap ?)

    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

  • I hope they keep Clooney, his shoe toss is grade A. 

  • Clowney is far better than anyone available in FA or at pick 13.  I'm really not sure what player or players anyone seriously thinks would be a viable replacement for him.

    Jadeveon Clowney - Most Definitely
    David Njoku - Most Definitely
    M.J. Stewart - Most Definitely, PFF rating 80.8.  I'd definitely rather have him and a mid-round draftpick [Yusuf Corker or RJ Roderick in the 5th?] than Harrison.
    Nick Mullens - Definitely
    Porter Gustin - Definitely [depending on other FA action]
    Michael Dunn  - Definitely
    Blake Hance - Definitely if under 1m.  Decent not great.
    D'ernest Johnson - Negotiate, see what he wants

    Ignore:
    Takkarist McKinley
    Malik Jackson
    Chris Hubbard
    Anthony Walker Jr.
    Rashard Higgins
    Malcolm Smith
    Dustin Colquitt
    Elijah Lee
    Ifeadi Odenigbo
    Ryan Switzer
    Dexter Williams
    Montrel Meander
    Stephen Carlson
    Ronnie Harrison
    Ja'Marcus Bradley
    Chase McLaughlin
    Malik McDowell

  • Re: Mcdowell - You can tell, especially by midseason, that his long term conditioning (that 16 game grind body) wasn't where it needed to be.  The guy has been out of football for a while and the obvious effects presented themselves as things would drag on.

    A full offseason may do him a world of good and he was incredibly disruptive when fresh.  I think to simply say "ignore" is unwise.

  • They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

  • Zombo said:

    Of the UFAs, I'd like to keep Clowney, and perhaps Walker, Nojoku and M.J. Stewart. The rest can try their luck.

    Of the Restricted FAs, I see only McDowell and D'ernest as important.

    Z

    Walker is too slow... I think we can do better there...

  • Seems that M.J. Stewart won't be coming back

  • They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    @hx214 said:

    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    Clowney did well this season... Id give him a series of 1 year deals...

  • MaYbe I should not have loaded this yesterday morning? ?

    DT upgrades....  Bengals BJ Hill... is another young consideration (Ogun also had a good season..sad he'll miss this week)

    INTERIOR DEFENDERS

    *D.J. Jones, San Francisco 49ers

    As if Jones’ regular season performance wasn’t strong enough heading into a crucial offseason, his 2022 playoff debut against the Dallas Cowboys put an exclamation point on his breakout campaign, as he recorded a huge 13-yard sack on quarterback Dak Prescott.

    Jones earned a career-high 73.2 grade for the 2021 season that illustrated why the 49ers made sure to sign him during the first week of free agency last offseason, and he’s played his way into a solid multi-year payday as a result. Jones accrued 40 defensive stops in 2021 after amassing 43 total in his first four seasons. His 14 tackles for loss or no gain in 2021 were second to only Aaron Donald among all interior defenders despite playing roughly half as many snaps as the Los Angeles Rams‘ phenom. 

    Maliek Collins, Houston Texans

    Collins signed consecutive one-year deals for 2020 and 2021 and will now look to ink a multi-year deal while he's still young, as he will be 27 years old during Week 1 of the 2022 season. Collins earned a career-high 66.5 grade and continued to demonstrate his durability, as he played over 500 snaps for the sixth straight season. 

    Collins always demonstrated upside as an interior pass-rusher, but his 61.8 run defense grade in 2021 was also a career-high despite playing on a defense tht lacked talent throughout the front seven. Collins doesn’t quit on any snap, and his tenacity in a losing situation was admirable. He can be a valuable asset for any team, even if he's not a true difference-maker. 

    Teams that should be interested: Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns, New York Jets

    DT production & pay scale  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/defensive-tackle/all/  (while your in? OT may also have upgrades to C.Hubbard?)

    edit--- top IDL fa's--- https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-free-agency-rankings-interior-defensive-linemen

  • bump time...

       NFL franchise tag window: Teams can start placing the franchise tag on players February 21 with a deadline of March 8 to tender said players. The NFL free-agent negotiating window opens on March 14 with a March 16 date for teams to be able to sign outside free agents.

    Franchise and transition tenders are calculated by adding the respective tag numbers, divided by the sum of the salary caps, from the previous five seasons, and finally multipled by the current season's salary cap. Franchise tag figures are based upon the top five salaries at each respective position, while transition tag figures are based on the top ten.

    RFA tenders are calculated by increasing the previous year's respective tender by the same rate as the increase of the salary cap.

    2022 Projected Franchise and Transition Tenders

    Position Franchise Tag Transition Tag
    QB $28,598,000 $25,651,000
    DE $20,186,000 $16,623,000
    WR $19,127,000 $16,740,000
    LB $17,417,000 $14,882,000
    CB $17,295,000 $14,904,000
    DT $16,888,000 $13,596,000
    OL $16,698,000 $14,997,000
    S $13,544,000 $11,265,000
    RB $12,536,000 $10,148,000
    TE $10,834,000 $9,332,000
    ST $5,469,000 $4,980,000

    2022 Projected RFA Tenders

    Type Amount
    First Round $5,562,000
    Second Round $3,986,000
    Right of First Refusal $2,433,000

    Restricted we have 5... De'Ernest Johnson/Chase McLaughlin/Stephen Carlson/Montrel Meander/Ifeadi Odenigbo/

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cleveland-browns/   Denzel Ward needs a Extension & J. Clowney needs taken off the market...

    Clowney/Njoku? nah... https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/2022-Browns-Franchise-Tag-Primer-183250280/

  • They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    @hx214 said:

    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

    Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

  • @hx214 said:

    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

    Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

  • @hoorta said:

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

    @bob806 said:

    Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

    If the plan is to re-boot the WR room?  Losing Landry now, would totally suck ?

  • @hoorta said:

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

    @bob806 said:

    Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

    Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. 😁 The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

    Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

  • @bob806 said:

    Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases ?

    Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. 😁 The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

    Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

    @hoorta said:

    Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. 😁 The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

    Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

    Yes, I'm in the 1st row of 536, so I didn't get hit as hard as the lower bowl. My thing is, the prices increased $300 on mine for 2021, so that's $500 increase in just two seasons (I have a pair of seats).

    To be fair (& it's hard given the economy, pandemic stuff we all went through) the Browns didn't jack up prices for quite a few seasons, probably because of a 38-122 record from 2008-2017. But please don't do it again anytime soon. 

    One of my friends who moved here from Austin, Tx may have had a point. He told me our fan base is still snakebit from the 1995 move, and we are basically hostages to the team & NFL now. He also said Haslam could increase tickets $1000/season & we'd still pay it. Maybe he's right...just a different perspective on things.

  • A few numbers from  stastica  to try to put things in perspective. Right through the worst period of BROWNS football.......ever !  Loyal fans.

     https://www.statista.com/statistics/197966/nfl-average-ticket-price-for-cleveland-browns-games-since-2006

     I'm going to look at front office goodies later.

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  • @hoorta said:

    Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. 😁 The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

    Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

    Yes, I'm in the 1st row of 536, so I didn't get hit as hard as the lower bowl. My thing is, the prices increased $300 on mine for 2021, so that's $500 increase in just two seasons (I have a pair of seats).

    To be fair (& it's hard given the economy, pandemic stuff we all went through) the Browns didn't jack up prices for quite a few seasons, probably because of a 38-122 record from 2008-2017. But please don't do it again anytime soon. 

    One of my friends who moved here from Austin, Tx may have had a point. He told me our fan base is still snakebit from the 1995 move, and we are basically hostages to the team & NFL now. He also said Haslam could increase tickets $1000/season & we'd still pay it. Maybe he's right...just a different perspective on things.

    @bob806 said:

    Yes, I'm in the 1st row of 536, so I didn't get hit as hard as the lower bowl. My thing is, the prices increased $300 on mine for 2021, so that's $500 increase in just two seasons (I have a pair of seats).

    Ouch!  You have my empathy.

  • @hx214 said:

    They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

    Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

    I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

    Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    @hoorta said:

    I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

    Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

    Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  🙂

    I'm not sure if you watched Hooper much, but that guy dropped more passes that hit him in both hands than anybody I've ever seen. 

    Berry's worst signing by far. 

  • I want to retain Walker and Ronnie Harrison this year.   played well last season

  • I want to retain Walker and Ronnie Harrison this year.   played well last season

    @lbc-mike said:

    I want to retain Walker and Ronnie Harrison this year.   played well last season

    Walker played tentative last year.  Looked like he was shot out of a cannon at times for the Colts but consistently a step behind for us and I thought below average in pass coverage.

    Ronnie Harrison it could be argued pretty easily was our worst starter on defense last year.  It was the stupid plays and penalties he made and the plays he didn’t make…one in particular there was a key 4th down play in the Charger game they are backed up in their own territory and the Chargers go for it…watch his run fill on the play.