It's All About The QB! Always has been!
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I don't know how hoorta is going to sleep tonight with the knowledge that cal and the other brilliant minds of the Political Forum have lost respect for him.
Hey hoorta, when you go to one of those "AAA" meetings be sure to grab me some road maps. I'm old-school that way.
I don't know how hoorta is going to sleep tonight with the knowledge that cal and the other brilliant minds of the Political Forum have lost respect for him.
Hey hoorta, when you go to one of those "AAA" meetings be sure to grab me some road maps. I'm old-school that way.
I've yet to ask Zombo (who's been known to have a beer or three) what his reaction would have been if Cal had called him an alcoholic, and suggested he go to AA.
Oh, I won't pile on AAA? I'd suggest a road map here. https://www.healthgrades.com/psychiatry-directory/oh-ohio/cleveland
I'm just going to say this and (probably) just shut up on the topic... What's done is done... To quote our dear departed member Gipper, Cal's opinion of me isn't worth a cabbage fart.
So to my (friends) sort of- from the Poli Board before you get up in arms, and I'm going to name you by name.... Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? Here's the BIG difference... You guys know how to behave when you post here... Cal's brain has left the station without him, and he's no longer able to distinguish the difference. I tolerated the illogic, obsessive compulsive retorts, and personal insults as long as I could. I hope he'll learn (doubtful) with his kiddie timeout that there's different rules on the Browns Forum as opposed to the Political Forum... And repeatedly insulting a Moderator isn't one of them... I'll just say that Cal was repeatedly warned, both publicly and in private PMs to back off, but like the now departed Rich4Eagle, he just kept on keeping on escalating the rhetoric level until "I had no choice".
what'd I miss ?
? sending her your way
I'm certainly not my parents Gumby, but if you have zero moderation, things rapidly devolve into anarchy. & damn, I hate putting my Moderator hat on, especially in this particular case. Anyone around here old enough to remember totally unmoderated UseNet in the early days of the Internet? It rapidly became a troll and spam infested cesspool.
BTW, she can pick out a bottle or three for me anytime.
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You'll have to trust me on this, having seen 2 of the 3 in person. Farve is a solid built 6'3, and was closer to 230lbs prime years. Baker is a shade under 6'1 in cleats and just north of 2 bills. Murray on the other hand is 5'10 in cleats and about 190lbs. I have no idea who he paid to inflate those combine numbers, but I'm sure it wasn't cheap.
Well, I don't..
Again, sorry... Standing next to someone and putting a measuring tape on them are two different critters entirely. FWIW, before I started shrinking in my old age I measured nearly 6'2", 1\2" short of that... I met Dough Dieken decades ago face to face several times at Browns Backers functions.. And you'd never convince me he's 6'5" either.
Well, I don't..
Again, sorry... Standing next to someone and putting a measuring tape on them are two different critters entirely. FWIW, before I started shrinking in my old age I measured nearly 6'2", 1\2" short of that... I met Dough Dieken decades ago face to face several times at Browns Backers functions.. And you'd never convince me he's 6'5" either.
At :12 in the video.
Jerry Rice is 6'2"
Still don't believe it?
One inch does make a difference.
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Well, I don't..
Again, sorry... Standing next to someone and putting a measuring tape on them are two different critters entirely. FWIW, before I started shrinking in my old age I measured nearly 6'2", 1\2" short of that... I met Dough Dieken decades ago face to face several times at Browns Backers functions.. And you'd never convince me he's 6'5" either.
At :12 in the video.
Jerry Rice is 6'2"
Still don't believe it?
One inch does make a difference.
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An interesting read:No shot to Russell Wilson, but is it a coincidence that as soon as he leaves the game we see the offense operate on script, with TEs leaking through the MOF? Beautiful drive from GenoShare this Tweet
This has been evident with Wilson and others for years, as typically shorter QBs do tend to throw fewer balls over the middle portions of the field. It doesn’t mean they’re necessarily worse at throwing them, it just means that they throw less of them because it’s harder to create windows for them to see. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a big deal if you can throw a brilliant deep ball and achieve success in other areas—as Wilson does—but it certainly restricts your passing offense and certain play designs if a short QB just isn’t willing to be overly aggressive.
Height doesn’t seem to have any effect on the percentages until they dip below the 6-foot-2 (or 1.88 meters). It’s at that point where it becomes nearly impossible to be able to use the middle portion of the field at an above-average level (Murray is sort of an exception).
That second point is particularly interesting, as 6-foot-2 is generally the benchmark used to discuss QB height in the draft scouting process. I’ve always thought of that ‘old-fashioned’ mark to be entirely arbitrary—why not 6-foot-1 or 6-foot-3? Well, it might just be luck, or it might show that perhaps there is a legitimate method behind the thresholds scouts use. Who knows?
What I do know is being short does significantly hurt your chances of seeing—and therefore attempting—middle of the field passes.
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An interesting read:No shot to Russell Wilson, but is it a coincidence that as soon as he leaves the game we see the offense operate on script, with TEs leaking through the MOF? Beautiful drive from GenoShare this Tweet
This has been evident with Wilson and others for years, as typically shorter QBs do tend to throw fewer balls over the middle portions of the field. It doesn’t mean they’re necessarily worse at throwing them, it just means that they throw less of them because it’s harder to create windows for them to see. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a big deal if you can throw a brilliant deep ball and achieve success in other areas—as Wilson does—but it certainly restricts your passing offense and certain play designs if a short QB just isn’t willing to be overly aggressive.
Height doesn’t seem to have any effect on the percentages until they dip below the 6-foot-2 (or 1.88 meters). It’s at that point where it becomes nearly impossible to be able to use the middle portion of the field at an above-average level (Murray is sort of an exception).
That second point is particularly interesting, as 6-foot-2 is generally the benchmark used to discuss QB height in the draft scouting process. I’ve always thought of that ‘old-fashioned’ mark to be entirely arbitrary—why not 6-foot-1 or 6-foot-3? Well, it might just be luck, or it might show that perhaps there is a legitimate method behind the thresholds scouts use. Who knows?
What I do know is being short does significantly hurt your chances of seeing—and therefore attempting—middle of the field passes.
An interesting read:No shot to Russell Wilson, but is it a coincidence that as soon as he leaves the game we see the offense operate on script, with TEs leaking through the MOF? Beautiful drive from GenoShare this TweetThis has been evident with Wilson and others for years, as typically shorter QBs do tend to throw fewer balls over the middle portions of the field. It doesn’t mean they’re necessarily worse at throwing them, it just means that they throw less of them because it’s harder to create windows for them to see. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a big deal if you can throw a brilliant deep ball and achieve success in other areas—as Wilson does—but it certainly restricts your passing offense and certain play designs if a short QB just isn’t willing to be overly aggressive.
Height doesn’t seem to have any effect on the percentages until they dip below the 6-foot-2 (or 1.88 meters). It’s at that point where it becomes nearly impossible to be able to use the middle portion of the field at an above-average level (Murray is sort of an exception).
That second point is particularly interesting, as 6-foot-2 is generally the benchmark used to discuss QB height in the draft scouting process. I’ve always thought of that ‘old-fashioned’ mark to be entirely arbitrary—why not 6-foot-1 or 6-foot-3? Well, it might just be luck, or it might show that perhaps there is a legitimate method behind the thresholds scouts use. Who knows?
What I do know is being short does significantly hurt your chances of seeing—and therefore attempting—middle of the field passes.
That definitely is interesting. I read something similar about QB height way back when during the draft that featured Testaverde.
Scouts were debating Vinny's skills, but the one thing they all agreed on is he was the "prototype build" at QB.
Anyhow, best of luck to Mayfield on his rehab/recovery. One of the most interesting off seasons in Browns recent history right now, hope Berry & company get the ship righted.
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what'd I miss ?
? sending her your way
I'm no wine expert, but I'd like to meet up with her & down some sangria or Mad Dog lol.
Karlis Missed -
I don't know how hoorta is going to sleep tonight with the knowledge that cal and the other brilliant minds of the Political Forum have lost respect for him.
Hey hoorta, when you go to one of those "AAA" meetings be sure to grab me some road maps. I'm old-school that way.
Hey hoorta, when you go to one of those "AAA" meetings be sure to grab me some road maps. I'm old-school that way.
Dammit, warped minds think alike. I was going to post something along those lines until I read this.?
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What is it like being 17? Remind me because I miss that shit ???
Lol yeah...brought a bottle of the Banana Red to one of our tailgates this year just for the fun & flashbacks of it. At age 58, I took the 1st drink before passing it around (no Covid shaming please haha)....my 1st thought was "how in the hell did we drink this crap?"
Karlis Missed -
I'm no wine expert, but I'd like to meet up with her & down some sangria or Mad Dog lol.
all I know is.... these classy dressed ladies weren't hanging around our local Beer runs nor Mad Dog selves...
When Hoorta makes his next swilll run to the Winery? We may need your RV for any attending guest ? ? ? and I don't drink nor need wine ?
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or Mad Dog
Pretty sure that's just Home Depot's paint thinner with food coloring and sugar added and re-labelled by a guy sitting in a bathtub in Pittsburgh.
For something more for human consumption, go with the Balvenie 14yr Caribbean cask..
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
What is it like being 17? Remind me because I miss that shit ???
Lol yeah...brought a bottle of the Banana Red to one of our tailgates this year just for the fun & flashbacks of it. At age 58, I took the 1st drink before passing it around (no Covid shaming please haha)....my 1st thought was "how in the hell did we drink this crap?"
....my 1st thought was "how in the hell did we drink this crap?"
See the secret ingredient is the juvenile delinquency.
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@axe said:
Time to step aside and let someone less biased fill your role.
I propose Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? ? Oh yeah, the currently mumified cal.?
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@axe said:
Time to step aside and let someone less biased fill your role.
I propose Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? ? Oh yeah, the currently mumified cal.?
I propose Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? ? Oh yeah, the currently mumified cal.?
thats funny I forgot cal was in time out
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or Mad Dog
Pretty sure that's just Home Depot's paint thinner with food coloring and sugar added and re-labelled by a guy sitting in a bathtub in Pittsburgh.
For something more for human consumption, go with the Balvenie 14yr Caribbean cask..
Pretty sure that's just Home Depot's paint thinner with food coloring and sugar added and re-labelled by a guy sitting in a bathtub in Pittsburgh.
For something more for human consumption, go with the Balvenie 14yr Caribbean cask..
Sure you aren't Brett Kollmann?
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@axe said:
Time to step aside and let someone less biased fill your role.
I propose Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? ? Oh yeah, the currently mumified cal.?
I propose Vambo, Gorka, Diehard Browns Fan, Axe... Miss anyone? ? Oh yeah, the currently mumified cal.?
I'd say you just filled the spot.
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Yup. These guys made a total mess of this thread didn't they...
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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