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  • @atom said:

    do ya think being that obj is  A #2 in l.a has anything to do with it

    Actually no, I don't think anything that OBJ is doing now matters regarding why we couldn't get him the ball...and/or why our passing game was a flop in 2021.  I would just love to know what he thought about the whole thing and why wanted out so badly.  I'm sure Berry knows, because he talked with him at the time....but Berry won't talk.  I even tried water-boarding on him.  🙂

    @orion said:

    I would just love to know what he thought about the whole thing and why wanted out so badly.  I'm sure Berry knows, because he talked with him at the time....but Berry won't talk.  I even tried water-boarding on him.  🙂

    I do know OBJ gave up guarantee'd money to leave.. Rare in the NFL..

    Cabot alert ?.. But....I've read other reporters stating this same statement.. Confused since..

    A source told cleveland.com that Beckham asked to be traded multiple times, including in the offseason when he was coming off surgery to repair a torn ACL. He asked again after the Steelers game, which cleveland.com has reported multiple times, in which he caught one pass for 6 yards..

    here's Cabot's 1st gibber-jab...     https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/11/browns-to-release-odell-beckham-jr-friday-as-soon-as-the-financial-deal-is-reached-after-steelers-game-was-the-last-straw-for-his-camp-source-says.html

    OBJ was timely added to the Rams roster after their true WR1 Robert Woods went down for the year.. Woods was having a good season..   

  • @atom said:

    do ya think being that obj is  A #2 in l.a has anything to do with it

    Actually no, I don't think anything that OBJ is doing now matters regarding why we couldn't get him the ball...and/or why our passing game was a flop in 2021.  I would just love to know what he thought about the whole thing and why wanted out so badly.  I'm sure Berry knows, because he talked with him at the time....but Berry won't talk.  I even tried water-boarding on him.  🙂

    @orion said:

    I would just love to know what he thought about the whole thing and why wanted out so badly.  I'm sure Berry knows, because he talked with him at the time....but Berry won't talk.  I even tried water-boarding on him.  🙂

    1. OBJ is a big city/big stage guy. He's a guy who loves the spotlight. New York is the biggest stage. Los Angeles is Hollywood. He ended up being traded to Cleveland. 

    2. This is not a dynamic passing offense. It's not how Stefanski's offense is set up.

    3. Baker Mayfield is not a dynamic passer. He can be a successful QB in Stefanski's offense, but he's not going to put up Madden numbers, thus, his WRs aren't going to put up big numbers. 

  • Fuck AB,,,, err, I mean OBJ

  • @orion said:

    I would just love to know what he thought about the whole thing and why wanted out so badly.  I'm sure Berry knows, because he talked with him at the time....but Berry won't talk.  I even tried water-boarding on him.  🙂

    1. OBJ is a big city/big stage guy. He's a guy who loves the spotlight. New York is the biggest stage. Los Angeles is Hollywood. He ended up being traded to Cleveland. 

    2. This is not a dynamic passing offense. It's not how Stefanski's offense is set up.

    3. Baker Mayfield is not a dynamic passer. He can be a successful QB in Stefanski's offense, but he's not going to put up Madden numbers, thus, his WRs aren't going to put up big numbers. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    1. OBJ is a big city/big stage guy. He's a guy who loves the spotlight. New York is the biggest stage. Los Angeles is Hollywood. He ended up being traded to Cleveland. 

    2. This is not a dynamic passing offense. It's not how Stefanski's offense is set up.

    3. Baker Mayfield is not a dynamic passer. He can be a successful QB in Stefanski's offense, but he's not going to put up Madden numbers, thus, his WRs aren't going to put up big numbers. 

    I 100% agree on all points.  But we HAVE to have the ability to be a dynamic passing team.  We play in the NFL...and it's always been all about the QB. (a smart guy once said that...or was it a smart ass?)  🙂

  • Given the number of snaps Stef apparently wants to call using 5WR, yards should flow like water.

    Let's start with completing the pass before we worry about the YAC, though.  Perhaps if the WR group were as athletic as Ohio State's backups, we'd have a shot at more than a 3 yard dumpoff and a cloud of fieldturf pellets. 

    As a comparison, Jordan Love gets the ball out quickly and usually makes the right decision -- as we saw, he's had some accuracy issues even with the right read.

  • seriously some of you people must be brain damaged who the hell are you going to get to replace baker ?

    @atom said:

    seriously some of you people must be brain damaged who the hell are you going to get to replace baker ?

    I'd give Russ Wilson and Rodgers the start right away but they're the only two in the NFL that you might be able to make a play for. Anyone else is either not leaving their team for any price or not worth trading up for. 

  • @atom said:

    seriously some of you people must be brain damaged who the hell are you going to get to replace baker ?

    I'd give Russ Wilson and Rodgers the start right away but they're the only two in the NFL that you might be able to make a play for. Anyone else is either not leaving their team for any price or not worth trading up for. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd give Russ Wilson and Rodgers the start right away but they're the only two in the NFL that you might be able to make a play for. Anyone else is either not leaving their team for any price or not worth trading up for. 

    Not to mention we would be in competition with Shittsburgh for a FA QB in the AFCN.

  • They're going to keep Baker. I don't think there's any chance of Cleveland landing Rodgers or Wilson. Maybe they get Carr and he outright starts over Baker. Otherwise, they're going to get Cousins or Trubisky or draft a mid round QB to push him. 

    Baker's career as a starting QB might be over. We will know after he takes his first big hit and if he gets up with confidence or continues to see ghosts. 

  • They're going to keep Baker. I don't think there's any chance of Cleveland landing Rodgers or Wilson. Maybe they get Carr and he outright starts over Baker. Otherwise, they're going to get Cousins or Trubisky or draft a mid round QB to push him. 

    Baker's career as a starting QB might be over. We will know after he takes his first big hit and if he gets up with confidence or continues to see ghosts. 

    @vaportrail said:

    They're going to keep Baker. I don't think there's any chance of Cleveland landing Rodgers or Wilson. Maybe they get Carr and he outright starts over Baker. Otherwise, they're going to get Cousins or Trubisky or draft a mid round QB to push him. 

    Baker's career as a starting QB might be over. We will know after he takes his first big hit and if he gets up with confidence or continues to see ghosts. 

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

  • @vaportrail said:

    They're going to keep Baker. I don't think there's any chance of Cleveland landing Rodgers or Wilson. Maybe they get Carr and he outright starts over Baker. Otherwise, they're going to get Cousins or Trubisky or draft a mid round QB to push him. 

    Baker's career as a starting QB might be over. We will know after he takes his first big hit and if he gets up with confidence or continues to see ghosts. 

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    Baker seems irrelevant to the trade lol. Who's going to want him coming off injury and after the year he had?

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    Baker seems irrelevant to the trade lol. Who's going to want him coming off injury and after the year he had?

    @vaportrail said:

    Baker seems irrelevant to the trade lol. Who's going to want him coming off injury and after the year he had?

    the same reason Goff went to the Lions, my man. If it wasn't clear, I'm saying the Browns would also have to throw in pick(s) on top of trading Mayfield. In this scenario, the team wouldn't keep Mayfield as back-up. That would be plain dumb.

    Some team is always going to take a chance on a top pick who had at least some high caliber film on tape (Carson Wentz, for example). This situation isn't the same, but I'd say that Wentz was literally at the same place Mayfield is now in terms of "does he still have it" and look what the Colts gave up. Granted, Wentz strong season was better than any of Mayfield's, but the situation is very comparable.

  • Rumor mill says Baker for Cousins...

  • Rumor mill says Baker for Cousins...

    @kvoethe said:

    Rumor mill says Baker for Cousins...

    The rumor mill that starts their own out of thin air just for clicks. 

    Probably Dawgs by Nature, Heavy On and most of those other sites that go full trash when offseason hits. 

    I'm not saying it isn't possible, only saying the rumor isn't from actual NFL sources more than just wild speculation. 

  • @vaportrail said:

    They're going to keep Baker. I don't think there's any chance of Cleveland landing Rodgers or Wilson. Maybe they get Carr and he outright starts over Baker. Otherwise, they're going to get Cousins or Trubisky or draft a mid round QB to push him. 

    Baker's career as a starting QB might be over. We will know after he takes his first big hit and if he gets up with confidence or continues to see ghosts. 

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    What a buzzkill JB!

    I was hoping we would get Tom Brady, and have Aaron Rodgers as his backup.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    Carr a Ferrari? That's a pretty generous assessment. You should be working for Ganley.

    But I got to love a guy who keeps his dreams so modest. Kind of like taking a ride through Bedford and getting choked up by the 1150 square foot two bed 1 bath bungalow.

    ?

    WSS

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Depending on how the coach situation pans out, if the Browns could swap Carr for Mayfield + a pick I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Carr is everything this offense wants and needs and quietly has clutch in his career. If I'm Berry and that's an option, it's a no brainer for me. 

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

    More like a Yugo or a Chevy Nova (which in South America was a joke because "no va" means doesn't go in Spanish).???

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    If I could swap out my Honda for a Ferrari it'd be a no brainer for me as well, but unfortunately for Berry and myself, reality has a pesky way of snuffing out pipe-dreams.

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

    Gave up my caddy for my Honda.  I miss a heavier car and AWD, but damn it's way cheaper to maintain and better on gas.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Mayfield a Honda? 

    That's a pretty generous assessment.

    Hondas perform well every day. ?

    Gave up my caddy for my Honda.  I miss a heavier car and AWD, but damn it's way cheaper to maintain and better on gas.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Gave up my caddy for my Honda.  I miss a heavier car and AWD, but damn it's way cheaper to maintain and better on gas.

    Had a Honda for 11 years, it got totaled and got a Subaru. 

    I may never buy another brand of car.