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Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years!

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  • Pat MahomoP Pat Mahomo

    Pat Mahomes > Myles Garrett

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #5

    @pat-mahomo said:

    Pat Mahomes > Myles Garrett

    Reggie Camp > Todd Blackledge

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on
    #6

    Josh Allen> Baker, D.Ward.  Roll the dice on a throwaway pick.  You had the first pick.  Create competition at THE position of need in all of sports.

  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on
    #7

    Taking 2 QB's in the top 4 picks when you haven't had one since Otto Graham creates competition.  Bad QB=franchise failure.

    Bob806B 1 Reply
  • hx214H hx214 wrote on
    #8

    Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

    So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

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  • hx214H hx214

    Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

    So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #9

    @hx214 said:

    Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

    So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

    Minus a CB.

    S 1 Reply
  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on
    #10

    Josh Allen and Baker would have had a RG3-Kirk Cousins battle.  Allen's potential vs. a 5'10" DB in Ward.  Even if Allen busted, so what.  They can find a DB similar to Ward next year.  Allen had elite skills in the right system.  QB's don't grow on trees.  Anyone can run.

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  • S SkippinTurtles

    Taking 2 QB's in the top 4 picks when you haven't had one since Otto Graham creates competition.  Bad QB=franchise failure.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on
    #11

    @skippinturtles said:

    Taking 2 QB's in the top 4 picks when you haven't had one since Otto Graham creates competition.  Bad QB=franchise failure.

    So I'm confused, help me. 

    The title of this thread refers to no franchise QB in 30 years, yet you mention now "since Otto Graham." 

    Sipe & Kosar did well. Jury is still out on Mayfield. 

    Did Tony Grossi just join the Browns Board? 

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @hx214 said:

    Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

    So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

    Minus a CB.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #12

    @texasag1969 said:

    Minus a CB.

    C j Henderson  2020 first round pick acquired in Josh Allen trade.

    I gotta give this regime more credit 

  • S SkippinTurtles

    Josh Allen and Baker would have had a RG3-Kirk Cousins battle.  Allen's potential vs. a 5'10" DB in Ward.  Even if Allen busted, so what.  They can find a DB similar to Ward next year.  Allen had elite skills in the right system.  QB's don't grow on trees.  Anyone can run.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #13

    @skippinturtles said:

    Josh Allen and Baker would have had a RG3-Kirk Cousins battle.  Allen's potential vs. a 5'10" DB in Ward.  Even if Allen busted, so what.  They can find a DB similar to Ward next year.  Allen had elite skills in the right system.  QB's don't grow on trees.  Anyone can run.

    Allen couldn’t consistently put the ball where it needed to be against Mountain West competition where maybe San Diego State plays defense everyone else not so much.

    Knowing what they knew at the time…I don’t blame them for not picking Josh Allen.

    Big and could throw the ball a mile…sounds like Jamarcus Russell 

  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on
    #14

    JaMarcus couldn't run.  He just played in a high profile conference and got hot at the right time.  Same as Baker.  Allen was a diamond in the rough.  Oozing potential.

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