More Baker noise last few days
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He brought escapability far greater than Baker. Unfortunately he could not escape substance abuse.
Just.... no.
Drafting Manziel was a horrible, horrible decision in every way possible. Even if you take away his substance abuse, he was immature and had zero interest in putting in the work it takes to be a top-notch QB.
Baker IMO is about tapped-out regarding his potential, but he's still light-years better than Manziel. He was a relatively safe, but uninspiring pick at #1. Manziel was a dumpster fire from the word GO.
Just.... no.
Drafting Manziel was a horrible, horrible decision in every way possible. Even if you take away his substance abuse, he was immature and had zero interest in putting in the work it takes to be a top-notch QB.
If you know anything at all about addiction, then you are aware that all else falls to the wayside including maturing, hard work, interest in doing anything substantial, etc. The potential was there but not the rest.
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Just.... no.
Drafting Manziel was a horrible, horrible decision in every way possible. Even if you take away his substance abuse, he was immature and had zero interest in putting in the work it takes to be a top-notch QB.
If you know anything at all about addiction, then you are aware that all else falls to the wayside including maturing, hard work, interest in doing anything substantial, etc. The potential was there but not the rest.
If you know anything at all about addiction, then you are aware that all else falls to the wayside including maturing, hard work, interest in doing anything substantial, etc. The potential was there but not the rest.
Does he still have a substance abuse problem?
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If you know anything at all about addiction, then you are aware that all else falls to the wayside including maturing, hard work, interest in doing anything substantial, etc. The potential was there but not the rest.
Does he still have a substance abuse problem?
Does he still have a substance abuse problem?
I have no idea. But I do know he is still revered at A&M for his Heisman season, regardless of later problems.
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JFF couldn’t cut it in the CFL. As a matter of fact, he was cut from an Arena Football League team called the Zappers. ?
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Does he still have a substance abuse problem?
I have no idea. But I do know he is still revered at A&M for his Heisman season, regardless of later problems.
I have no idea. But I do know he is still revered at A&M for his Heisman season, regardless of later problems.
He was a great young NCAA football player......he just couldn't handle the " fame and fortune " of being a too young NFL player.
Too bad, we never really knew how good he coulda, shoulda, woulda been as a #22 draft pick
️ for the Cleveland Browns.
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I have no idea. But I do know he is still revered at A&M for his Heisman season, regardless of later problems.
He was a great young NCAA football player......he just couldn't handle the " fame and fortune " of being a too young NFL player.
Too bad, we never really knew how good he coulda, shoulda, woulda been as a #22 draft pick
️ for the Cleveland Browns.
Too bad, we never really knew how good he coulda, shoulda, woulda been
Actually, I think we do know. He was last in first out. He didn't do X's and O's. He didn't do film study. He was gonna be the bum that he turned out to be. Bad pick. We paid Parcells 100K to evaluate the QB options and part of his report was, 'just don't draft Manziel'. But Jimmuh had to have him. The shiny thing that would give the Browns notoriety, he thought. Didn't matter that the football people didn't want him.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Too bad, we never really knew how good he coulda, shoulda, woulda been
Actually, I think we do know. He was last in first out. He didn't do X's and O's. He didn't do film study. He was gonna be the bum that he turned out to be. Bad pick. We paid Parcells 100K to evaluate the QB options and part of his report was, 'just don't draft Manziel'. But Jimmuh had to have him. The shiny thing that would give the Browns notoriety, he thought. Didn't matter that the football people didn't want him.
Actually, I think we do know. He was last in first out. He didn't do X's and O's. He didn't do film study. He was gonna be the bum that he turned out to be. Bad pick. We paid Parcells 100K to evaluate the QB options and part of his report was, 'just don't draft Manziel'. But Jimmuh had to have him. The shiny thing that would give the Browns notoriety, he thought. Didn't matter that the football people didn't want him.
Yes, but too bad we never knew what he could do past winning the Heisman "IF" he buckled down to be a serious NFL quarterback (like that young Bernie Kosar for one example).
And we never will.
And how many other first round and other picks did the BROWNS botch in that era. Part of the plenty of blame to go around era in Cleveland Browns Football.
GO BROWNS !
......... edit add, recently the BROWNS have done much better !
Cleveland Browns first-round draft picks through the years: Where are they now?
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Too bad, we never really knew how good he coulda, shoulda, woulda been
Actually, I think we do know. He was last in first out. He didn't do X's and O's. He didn't do film study. He was gonna be the bum that he turned out to be. Bad pick. We paid Parcells 100K to evaluate the QB options and part of his report was, 'just don't draft Manziel'. But Jimmuh had to have him. The shiny thing that would give the Browns notoriety, he thought. Didn't matter that the football people didn't want him.
Actually, I think we do know. He was last in first out. He didn't do X's and O's. He didn't do film study. He was gonna be the bum that he turned out to be. Bad pick. We paid Parcells 100K to evaluate the QB options and part of his report was, 'just don't draft Manziel'. But Jimmuh had to have him. The shiny thing that would give the Browns notoriety, he thought. Didn't matter that the football people didn't want him.
The only thing sad or unfortunate about the entire situation was the Browns wasted a first rounder on Manziel. There was nothing surprising about how it went down.
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I don't get how anyone could seriously compare Baker to Manziel. Baker showed me more talent in his first series against the Jets, in his first game, than Manziel ever showed. I know it's fashionable to bash Mayfield around here, but I'm not sure why. Baker played bad the last half of the 2021 season...maybe due to injury, or maybe due to a confidence problem. He's gotten the blame for everything wrong with the Browns. His season was very similar to the season Lamar Jackson had. Yet a lot of people still consider Jackson an elite qb. Why does he get a free pass ? I'm a Browns fan...not necessarily any loyalty to any one player. But, I think Baker still has the talent, the potential, and the arm to win a Superbowl here. I'm hoping the injuries were fully responsible for the way he played this past season. If it is a loss of confidence, we may as well cut him right now. It wouldn't be the first time this team has ruined the future of a decent qb.
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I don't get how anyone could seriously compare Baker to Manziel. Baker showed me more talent in his first series against the Jets, in his first game, than Manziel ever showed. I know it's fashionable to bash Mayfield around here, but I'm not sure why. Baker played bad the last half of the 2021 season...maybe due to injury, or maybe due to a confidence problem. He's gotten the blame for everything wrong with the Browns. His season was very similar to the season Lamar Jackson had. Yet a lot of people still consider Jackson an elite qb. Why does he get a free pass ? I'm a Browns fan...not necessarily any loyalty to any one player. But, I think Baker still has the talent, the potential, and the arm to win a Superbowl here. I'm hoping the injuries were fully responsible for the way he played this past season. If it is a loss of confidence, we may as well cut him right now. It wouldn't be the first time this team has ruined the future of a decent qb.
I don't get how anyone could seriously compare Baker to Manziel. Baker showed me more talent in his first series against the Jets, in his first game, than Manziel ever showed. I know it's fashionable to bash Mayfield around here, but I'm not sure why. Baker played bad the last half of the 2021 season...maybe due to injury, or maybe due to a confidence problem. He's gotten the blame for everything wrong with the Browns. His season was very similar to the season Lamar Jackson had. Yet a lot of people still consider Jackson an elite qb. Why does he get a free pass ? I'm a Browns fan...not necessarily any loyalty to any one player. But, I think Baker still has the talent, the potential, and the arm to win a Superbowl here. I'm hoping the injuries were fully responsible for the way he played this past season. If it is a loss of confidence, we may as well cut him right now. It wouldn't be the first time this team has ruined the future of a decent qb.
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I don't get how anyone could seriously compare Baker to Manziel. Baker showed me more talent in his first series against the Jets, in his first game, than Manziel ever showed. I know it's fashionable to bash Mayfield around here, but I'm not sure why. Baker played bad the last half of the 2021 season...maybe due to injury, or maybe due to a confidence problem. He's gotten the blame for everything wrong with the Browns. His season was very similar to the season Lamar Jackson had. Yet a lot of people still consider Jackson an elite qb. Why does he get a free pass ? I'm a Browns fan...not necessarily any loyalty to any one player. But, I think Baker still has the talent, the potential, and the arm to win a Superbowl here. I'm hoping the injuries were fully responsible for the way he played this past season. If it is a loss of confidence, we may as well cut him right now. It wouldn't be the first time this team has ruined the future of a decent qb.
I don't get how anyone could seriously compare Baker to Manziel. Baker showed me more talent in his first series against the Jets, in his first game, than Manziel ever showed. I know it's fashionable to bash Mayfield around here, but I'm not sure why. Baker played bad the last half of the 2021 season...maybe due to injury, or maybe due to a confidence problem. He's gotten the blame for everything wrong with the Browns. His season was very similar to the season Lamar Jackson had. Yet a lot of people still consider Jackson an elite qb. Why does he get a free pass ? I'm a Browns fan...not necessarily any loyalty to any one player. But, I think Baker still has the talent, the potential, and the arm to win a Superbowl here. I'm hoping the injuries were fully responsible for the way he played this past season. If it is a loss of confidence, we may as well cut him right now. It wouldn't be the first time this team has ruined the future of a decent qb.
Because Baker isnt the right skin color...
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