Browns trade for Amari Cooper
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we need this WR threat. Landry will get traded and we will pick a WR in second round.
Landry will get restructured, & wants to be here. He's on the last year of his contract. dead cap is only $1.5 million. We're not spending $35 million at the WR position, and we've got $20+ million tied up in the TE position with Njoku franchised, and Hooper making $11 million.
Landry will get restructured, & wants to be here. He's on the last year of his contract. dead cap is only $1.5 million. We're not spending $35 million at the WR position, and we've got $20+ million tied up in the TE position with Njoku franchised, and Hooper making $11 million.
I've been reading that now Landry is requesting a trade
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In certain respects. As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.
Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.
This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year.
And I think you and I and some others know the answer to that question
And I think you and I and some others know the answer to that question
I'm willing to give him enough rope to find out.
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I would still have zero problems with the Browns taking a WR in the first round.
I would still have zero problems with the Browns taking a WR in the first round.
I don't see it, not now. Maybe in the 2nd or 3rd though.
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Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry?
In certain respects. As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.
Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.
This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year.
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Hard to see a spot for Landry now unless he seriously restructures. Makes you wonder if they are targeting a different value at #13 too. Not against it all, going to be great value in the 2nd round for WR talent.
Hard to see a spot for Landry now
In the slot
...not what you meant but it's where I like him playing. I hope he gets a deal done to stay here.
A huge need has been addressed. A solid veteran WR has been added to WR room. The pressure to take a WR at pick 13 is now off. Of course you can still pick one...but if your coveted guy(s) isn't there, you can snag one in rounds 2 or 3.
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Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.
Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.
Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.
If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper.
Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB
Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.
Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.
Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.
If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper.
Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB
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Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.
Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.
Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.
If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper.
Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB
Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.
Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.
Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.
If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper.
Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB
I loved what Landry meant to the turn-around from the 1-31 football we were sentenced to prior to his arrival. Unfortunately, he's taken a beating the last couple years. He had off season surgery to repair a Hip Fracture in Feb 2020. Landry sprained the hip in Sept 2020 but played through the injury. More bad luck added broken ribs in Oct 2020. Then, he missed 4 games for a sprained MCL in 2021. Then he strained his knee in Nov 2021 and missed intermittent series vrs the Lions. A WR's hips and knees are very important to his change of direction as well as his stop and go (to an extent).
Here's some receiving stats to illustrate the impact of wear and tear on his production:
2018: 81 REC, 976 YDS, 12.0 AVG, 51 LNG, 4 TD
2019: 83 REC, 1174 YDS, 14.1 AVG, 65 LNG, 6 TD
2020: 72 REC, 840 YDS, 11.7 AVG, 32 LNG, 3 TD
2021: 52 REC, 570 YDS, 11.0 AVG, 38 LNG, 2 TD
My worry about Cooper is that neither of his 1st 2 teams felt he was a keeper. Let's hope the 3rd time is a charm. This is a year the NFL Draft looks like there could be some very talented WRs available in our draft slot at #13 overall; but this move may shift the WR priority to round 2. Then they can go edge rush or DT or trade-back. We shall see...
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Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.
Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.
Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.
If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper.
Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB
I loved what Landry meant to the turn-around from the 1-31 football we were sentenced to prior to his arrival. Unfortunately, he's taken a beating the last couple years. He had off season surgery to repair a Hip Fracture in Feb 2020. Landry sprained the hip in Sept 2020 but played through the injury. More bad luck added broken ribs in Oct 2020. Then, he missed 4 games for a sprained MCL in 2021. Then he strained his knee in Nov 2021 and missed intermittent series vrs the Lions. A WR's hips and knees are very important to his change of direction as well as his stop and go (to an extent).
Here's some receiving stats to illustrate the impact of wear and tear on his production:
2018: 81 REC, 976 YDS, 12.0 AVG, 51 LNG, 4 TD
2019: 83 REC, 1174 YDS, 14.1 AVG, 65 LNG, 6 TD
2020: 72 REC, 840 YDS, 11.7 AVG, 32 LNG, 3 TD
2021: 52 REC, 570 YDS, 11.0 AVG, 38 LNG, 2 TD
My worry about Cooper is that neither of his 1st 2 teams felt he was a keeper. Let's hope the 3rd time is a charm. This is a year the NFL Draft looks like there could be some very talented WRs available in our draft slot at #13 overall; but this move may shift the WR priority to round 2. Then they can go edge rush or DT or trade-back. We shall see...
My worry about Cooper is that neither of his 1st 2 teams felt he was a keeper. Let's hope the 3rd time is a charm. This is a year the NFL Draft looks like there could be some very talented WRs available in our draft slot at #13 overall; but this move may shift the WR priority to round 2. Then they can go edge rush or DT or trade-back. We shall see...
Yeppers!
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Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
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Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
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Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Unfortunately it's 50/50 on whether London is still there for us. But there are several very excellent WRs this year, even down into the 2nd round if Landry stays.
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Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please. ?
As in "be a better Higgins? Run a route depth where it's designed to be?" Amari Cooper can do this..
WR won’t be in play in the 1st round, pay attention to the depleted DL .
Berry should have this draft class set up for best player at any position available... Only maybe 15-18 draftees, carry real 1st round grades.. Pick 13 is a good value spot
surprise team position cuts & FA's period starts Weds. 4pm... were a ways from pinpointing any real needs.. stay tuned & enjoy.. Prepare for a roller-coaster ride...
Brownies! Here we Go!
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Cooper DPJ Schwartz….I think WR is still in play in Round 1.
Can we count on Cooper being here after 2022? And a Big question mark still on Schwartz.
I have this sneaky feeling we go Drake London. He’s very Mike Evansesque. If you want ZERO excuses analyzing Mayfield he’s your guy. I like Wilson too. There are some good ones this year it would be darn shame to take the second tier
Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
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Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
You think Amari Cooper is the "keep the opposing defenses honest and threaten to blow the roof off" type of guy we all hoped OBJ was going to be?
Because I see more of a 6 catches for 72 yards, move the chains type of guy.
Regardless, at this time last year the Browns were heading into the season with Landry and OBJ as the starters. OBJ is gone, and it looks like Landry will be moving on. Cooper replaces one of them, and someone like Wilson, London, Burks, Olave could very well replace the other. I'm not guaranteeing the Browns are using the #13 pick on a WR, but I don't think the trade for Cooper makes it unlikely they use the pick on one.
It wouldn't shock me if they are pretty much in the "Alright Baker, we kept your tight ends, all your RBs, and traded for a legit starting WR and drafted a stud WR. It's put up or shut up time."
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Totally agree.
I think Cooper basically takes over for Landry, which means the Browns still need someone to be THE guy that OBJ was supposed to be.
I'd take Wilson at that spot in a second. Wilson, Cooper, DPJ? Yes, please.
The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
dug into some Jahan Dotson (scared to hit no-one) & Skyy Moore/David Bell game films last night.. They all lack what Landry can do in tight spacing...Moore & Bell have nice blocking frames & traits on film..
but, They sure ain't 80's film coming out of LSU ...
If Brandon Cooks is still a FA? we may need a Landry cheaper back-up plan? ?
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Excellent addition by the Browns.
Now all we need is a QB who can throw and a HC who's game plan doesn't hate WRs and we should be good to go.
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The likely scenario is that Coop takes over the role of ODB - vertical threat.
The issue is this team needs a WR like Landry. Nobody else reads and anticipates coverages along with blocking their ass off like him that is currently on this roster, barring some type of massive off-season improvement by Schwartz and DPJ.
You think Amari Cooper is the "keep the opposing defenses honest and threaten to blow the roof off" type of guy we all hoped OBJ was going to be?
Because I see more of a 6 catches for 72 yards, move the chains type of guy.
Regardless, at this time last year the Browns were heading into the season with Landry and OBJ as the starters. OBJ is gone, and it looks like Landry will be moving on. Cooper replaces one of them, and someone like Wilson, London, Burks, Olave could very well replace the other. I'm not guaranteeing the Browns are using the #13 pick on a WR, but I don't think the trade for Cooper makes it unlikely they use the pick on one.
It wouldn't shock me if they are pretty much in the "Alright Baker, we kept your tight ends, all your RBs, and traded for a legit starting WR and drafted a stud WR. It's put up or shut up time."
You think Amari Cooper is the "keep the opposing defenses honest and threaten to blow the roof off" type of guy we all hoped OBJ was going to be?
Coop and Odell almost have the exact same career YPC at just a shade under 14YPA.
So.... yeah. That's likely how he'll be used in this offense. Me, personally?....
If Brandon Cooks is still a FA? we may need a Landry cheaper back-up plan? ?
.... This is where I would have gone. I was a big proponent of the Cooks idea a season ago. He's a vertical threat that could have been had for cheaper long term (I believe?)
and would allow this team to fill role players instead of having to rely on the classic idea of a #1 and/or #2 receiver.
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First an amazing trade for Cooper!!
I want to hear a LOT of
COOOOOOPP and HOOOOOOPP!! at. FIRST ENERGY! as for FA.... I really want Brandon Cooks, and to bring back Ogbah...and a DT!
Please resign Clowney and Jarvis(3 year deals for both)
Then we are set to draft BPA at 13!!! I would love Olave there but any of the top 3 DE,DT, or WR =BPA for all rounds after!!! Man MHO is AB is the best GM the Browns have had in....my lifetime!
GO BROWNS!!!
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I like it a LOT. All depends upon how we use him. We need to re-structure his deal.. and Landry to keep them both. Hoping Landry is swayed to stay with Amari coming on board...but He may want a change of scenery. Doutful WR is with our 1st, but slim chance it still happend but have to grab a couple WR's in this deep WR draft. I like the Njoku tag.. looks like they woke up to the fact he is really good. Now, game plan to feature him more. He's way more explosive than Hooper.
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