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  • Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    @mld-woody said:

    Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    The way the Democrats are spending tax payers money the next 50 younger generations will still be paying for it and that doesn't account for all the bad policies of the Biden *administration.

  • Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    @mld-woody said:

    Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists........Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    bs - just READ THIS, grow up  and try to shut your beak:

    https://republicandaily.com/2022/03/the-democrats-are-trying-to-hide-a-very-dirty-secret-about-electric-cars/

    The Democrats Are Trying to Hide a Very Dirty Secret About Electric Cars

  • Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    @mld-woody said:

    Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

  • @westside-steve said:

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    @mld-woody said:

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Yes, all of those money hungry climatologists.....

    ... Christ. 

    Let's hope we can dig out of this hole before younger generations are even more screwed. 

    Scientific issues getting politicized sucks

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

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  • @westside-steve said:

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    @mld-woody said:

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.e've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    as per your bird brain modus operani.....

    your feeble ego-based retorts are stupid. Scientists who spoke out about the truth about mmgw were

    blackballed, unfunded, and ostracized ....

    they weren't paid to endure that. You seem to never be able to show why you say stupid bird crap.

    I can.

    Al Gore: Climate Change Deniers Should Pay 'a Price ...

    While the "price" that Gore suggested politicians should pay would come at election time, such declarations often make political waves. In 2014, when Robert Kennedy Jr. facetiously suggested that climate change deniers should be jailed, a conservative uproar ensued.
    The UN also say that MMGW is "settled science". This too is a lie. But it gets worse. The globalist MSM started brainwashing us that 98% of all scientists say that global warming is man made and that it is settled science. Anyone who uses the term "settled science" doesn't know what science is. Not so long ago neutrons, protons and ...

    How The BBC Are Using MMGW lies to ... - Bruce On Politics

    Distorting markets to favour large global supercorporations. So consumers and small businesses pay far higher prices. Ed Milliband's 2008 Climate Change Act was one of the most pernicious pieces of anti consumer legislation in recent history. At the BBC the MMGW lies rapidly became 100% corporate mantra.

    MMGW Dubunked Again! - Skeptic Friends Network

    What are you talking about? The article wasn't published on August 29, 2007. Some guy named Michael Asher posted a note about Schulte's work on anti-MMGW Senator (and sadly, fellow Oklahoman) James Inhofe's Senate blog at the time, however. Moreover, if you look at her critique, it's easy to see how it wouldn't take long to find flaws in Schulte's work.

    Al Gore: Climate Change Deniers Should Pay 'a Price ...

    While the "price" that Gore suggested politicians should pay would come at election time, such declarations often make political waves. In 2014, when Robert Kennedy Jr. facetiously suggested that climate change deniers should be jailed, a conservative uproar ensued.

    Stop It !! Stop It !! Stop It !! Stop It

    STOP!! - just forget about all the so-Goreish Global Warming Stuff - it's so yesterday to worry about Kansans drowning in sea water.Besides, The Facts can just be so inconvenient anyway. That's right, you got to clear your mind (especially of facts) so you will be ready for The Next Big Crisis: Global Rotation Change (GRC) Yes, GRC is a really, Really, Big Deal (BFD).

    Why global warming is a global scam - AVForums

    Dec 8, 2009. #1. Global warming environmentalists are insistent that the world, particularly the western world reduce long term their C02 emissions from their current levels by between 60-90%. Now firstly what climate gate has proven through the the thousand plus emails which have been leaked from the East Anglian Institute which is itself a ...
  • @westside-steve said:

    Look I read a pretty well written study by someone that seemed like they were real research doctors. It was a study of the difference between regular carbohydrates and carbohydrates found in beer. Apparently the carbohydrates in beer are a lot less likely, for whatever crazy reason, to make you fat then ones you would find in potatoes or spaghetti. Pretty boring stuff it only a woodpecker would read but at the end I did notice who commissioned the study. Anheuser-Busch. Now would anybody guess that these researchers might have had an idea which side of the bread the butter was on? 

    No doubt research scientist can spin data toward whoever is holding the checkbook.

    WSS

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    @mld-woody said:

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    Somebody has to pay for research. If the researchers don't give the employers what they want the employers will find researchers that will.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    and you just successfully called out all of the "research papers" posted by Cal and the like on this board for the last decade, congrats. The "studies" coming from conservative think tanks that take donations from oil companies are what you're referring to in your post above.... not the findings from a consensus of qualified experts across the globe.

    We've done the "anti-expert" thing on here so many damn times on so many science-related topics and its more worrying each time

    Somebody has to pay for research. If the researchers don't give the employers what they want the employers will find researchers that will.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Somebody has to pay for research. If the researchers don't give the employers what they want the employers will find researchers that will.

    WSS

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

  • @westside-steve said:

    Somebody has to pay for research. If the researchers don't give the employers what they want the employers will find researchers that will.

    WSS

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

    @mld-woody said:

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

    They need to earn a living like everybody else. I think you're kidding yourself because politicians stand to earn a lot more money than the actual researchers. But politicians pay the bills.

    How much do you suppose the EU breaks in from the Paris Accord? How much do you think China's profitability is increased?

    WSS 

    ps check your inbox

  • @westside-steve said:

    Somebody has to pay for research. If the researchers don't give the employers what they want the employers will find researchers that will.

    WSS

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

    @mld-woody said:

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Right, all these fat cat.... climatologists...

    They need to earn a living like everybody else. I think you're kidding yourself because politicians stand to earn a lot more money than the actual researchers. But politicians pay the bills.

    How much do you suppose the EU breaks in from the Paris Accord? How much do you think China's profitability is increased?

    WSS 

    ps check your inbox

    @westside-steve said:

    They need to earn a living like everybody else. I think you're kidding yourself because politicians stand to earn a lot more money than the actual researchers. But politicians pay the bills.

    How much do you suppose the EU breaks in from the Paris Accord? How much do you think China's profitability is increased?

    WSS 

    ps check your inbox

    This pivot to "they're just in it for the money", when referring to the climatologists doing research at universities, etc, where they've dedicated their lifes, is hilarious. It's just the next attempt to deflect from a group that fell for the politicization of a scientific issue. Thinking these scientists got into this line of work "for the money" is hilarious. I don't care about politicians' thoughts on this issue. Unfortunately they're necessary to get anything done, but they'll just try to maintain the status quo, because that's all they ever do. 

    Again and again it seems like no real progress will get made on this issue until older generation is no longer in the political equation. Which is a shame. And backed up by polling. It's a lost cause for so many in the older generation and nothing is changing their minds. I just hope they don't leave the place too fucked up. At least not worse than it is now. 

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  • You break down in Bum fuk Wyoming, good luck finding a place that can repair your car.

  • @westside-steve said:

    They need to earn a living like everybody else. I think you're kidding yourself because politicians stand to earn a lot more money than the actual researchers. But politicians pay the bills.

    How much do you suppose the EU breaks in from the Paris Accord? How much do you think China's profitability is increased?

    WSS 

    ps check your inbox

    This pivot to "they're just in it for the money", when referring to the climatologists doing research at universities, etc, where they've dedicated their lifes, is hilarious. It's just the next attempt to deflect from a group that fell for the politicization of a scientific issue. Thinking these scientists got into this line of work "for the money" is hilarious. I don't care about politicians' thoughts on this issue. Unfortunately they're necessary to get anything done, but they'll just try to maintain the status quo, because that's all they ever do. 

    Again and again it seems like no real progress will get made on this issue until older generation is no longer in the political equation. Which is a shame. And backed up by polling. It's a lost cause for so many in the older generation and nothing is changing their minds. I just hope they don't leave the place too fucked up. At least not worse than it is now. 

    @mld-woody said:

    This pivot to "they're just in it for the money", when referring to the climatologists doing research at universities, etc, where they've dedicated their lifes, is hilarious. It's just the next attempt to deflect from a group that fell for the politicization of a scientific issue. Thinking these scientists got into this line of work "for the money" is hilarious. I don't care about politicians' thoughts on this issue. Unfortunately they're necessary to get anything done, but they'll just try to maintain the status quo, because that's all they ever do. 

    Again and again it seems like no real progress will get made on this issue until older generation is no longer in the political equation. Which is a shame. And backed up by polling. It's a lost cause for so many in the older generation and nothing is changing their minds. I just hope they don't leave the place too fucked up. At least not worse than it is now. 

    You are downplaying how politicized academia is. There are academic, political, and financial pressures to publish certain outcomes in any field, let alone one as polarizing as climatology. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    This pivot to "they're just in it for the money", when referring to the climatologists doing research at universities, etc, where they've dedicated their lifes, is hilarious. It's just the next attempt to deflect from a group that fell for the politicization of a scientific issue. Thinking these scientists got into this line of work "for the money" is hilarious. I don't care about politicians' thoughts on this issue. Unfortunately they're necessary to get anything done, but they'll just try to maintain the status quo, because that's all they ever do. 

    Again and again it seems like no real progress will get made on this issue until older generation is no longer in the political equation. Which is a shame. And backed up by polling. It's a lost cause for so many in the older generation and nothing is changing their minds. I just hope they don't leave the place too fucked up. At least not worse than it is now. 

    You are downplaying how politicized academia is. There are academic, political, and financial pressures to publish certain outcomes in any field, let alone one as polarizing as climatology. 

    @vaportrail said:

    You are downplaying how politicized academia is. There are academic, political, and financial pressures to publish certain outcomes in any field, let alone one as polarizing as climatology. 

    To the point where the overwhelming consensus of climatologists are reaching the same/similar conclusions? Where nearly ever reputable scientific organization in the world has the same/similar stance on climate change? How should we weight a study through a right wing think tank paid for by oil companies vs a study done by a handful of universities? 

    Sure, politics exist in everything, unfortunately. But this scientific issue has been clearly politicized by those in power to sway the public in ways to protect the status quo and keep wealth where it is. Its frustrating to watch. 

    So we'll just keep spinning our wheels for years and years and years, barely making any progress. Again, I just hope that when certain folks are no longer in power we can try to get something done. 

  • You break down in Bum fuk Wyoming, good luck finding a place that can repair your car.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You break down in Bum fuk Wyoming, good luck finding a place that can repair your car.

    driving out west - 80 mph a lot of the time, hours straight through the Great Plains...few side roads....

    yep. seriously.

  • @vaportrail said:

    You are downplaying how politicized academia is. There are academic, political, and financial pressures to publish certain outcomes in any field, let alone one as polarizing as climatology. 

    To the point where the overwhelming consensus of climatologists are reaching the same/similar conclusions? Where nearly ever reputable scientific organization in the world has the same/similar stance on climate change? How should we weight a study through a right wing think tank paid for by oil companies vs a study done by a handful of universities? 

    Sure, politics exist in everything, unfortunately. But this scientific issue has been clearly politicized by those in power to sway the public in ways to protect the status quo and keep wealth where it is. Its frustrating to watch. 

    So we'll just keep spinning our wheels for years and years and years, barely making any progress. Again, I just hope that when certain folks are no longer in power we can try to get something done. 

    @mld-woody said:

    To the point where the overwhelming consensus of climatologists are reaching the same/similar conclusions? Where nearly ever reputable scientific organization in the world has the same/similar stance on climate change? How should we weight a study through a right wing think tank paid for by oil companies vs a study done by a handful of universities? 

    Sure, politics exist in everything, unfortunately. But this scientific issue has been clearly politicized by those in power to sway the public in ways to protect the status quo and keep wealth where it is. Its frustrating to watch. 

    So we'll just keep spinning our wheels for years and years and years, barely making any progress. Again, I just hope that when certain folks are no longer in power we can try to get something done. 

    there he goes again. He's channeling his inner Sheply bird.

    https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/the-bogus-consensus-argument-on-climate-change/

    The Bogus “Consensus” Argument on Climate Change

    October 8, 2019

    "[Cook et al.] got their 97 percent by considering only those abstracts that expressed a position on anthropogenic global warming (AGW). I find it interesting that 2/3 of the abstracts did not take a position. So, taking into account David Friedman’s criticism above, and mine, Cook and Bedford, in summarizing their findings, should have said, “Of the approximately one-third of climate scientists writing on global warming who stated a position on the role of humans, 97% thought humans contribute somewhat to global warming.” That doesn’t quite have the same ring, does it? [David R. Henderson, bold "

  • @vaportrail said:

    You are downplaying how politicized academia is. There are academic, political, and financial pressures to publish certain outcomes in any field, let alone one as polarizing as climatology. 

    To the point where the overwhelming consensus of climatologists are reaching the same/similar conclusions? Where nearly ever reputable scientific organization in the world has the same/similar stance on climate change? How should we weight a study through a right wing think tank paid for by oil companies vs a study done by a handful of universities? 

    Sure, politics exist in everything, unfortunately. But this scientific issue has been clearly politicized by those in power to sway the public in ways to protect the status quo and keep wealth where it is. Its frustrating to watch. 

    So we'll just keep spinning our wheels for years and years and years, barely making any progress. Again, I just hope that when certain folks are no longer in power we can try to get something done. 

    @mld-woody said:

    To the point where the overwhelming consensus of climatologists are reaching the same/similar conclusions? Where nearly ever reputable scientific organization in the world has the same/similar stance on climate change? How should we weight a study through a right wing think tank paid for by oil companies vs a study done by a handful of universities? 

    Sure, politics exist in everything, unfortunately. But this scientific issue has been clearly politicized by those in power to sway the public in ways to protect the status quo and keep wealth where it is. Its frustrating to watch. 

    So we'll just keep spinning our wheels for years and years and years, barely making any progress. Again, I just hope that when certain folks are no longer in power we can try to get something done. 

    For someone who chides J on his conspiracy thread your quite the hypocrite.

    Your global warming crap has far more BS in it than just about anything J posts.

  • If you can't agree on reality, there is no way to have a debate.