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  • Former Cleveland Browns offensive lineman Joe Thomas said on his podcast with Andrew Hawkins earlier this week that Baker Mayfield turned down a long-term contract extension with the franchise worth $30 million per year in 2021. 

    Citing a league source, Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com said that report is "100 percent false" and "totally erroneous."

    shockingly, the full article is locked at clev.com    RLUyfJnogtXK44pm9t.gif     

  • what would a team give up for him  if anything ? to take on his 18 million that is fully guaranteed (yes i know that is cheap if a team plans on starting him) so a trade would be perfect for us as there would not be any dead money

    options are we could pay him a lump sum signing bonus to lower the cap hit or go the Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books

    @atom said:

    what would a team give up for him  if anything ? to take on his 18 million that is fully guaranteed (yes i know that is cheap if a team plans on starting him) so a trade would be perfect for us as there would not be any dead money

    options are we could pay him a lump sum signing bonus to lower the cap hit or go the Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books

    What to do with Baker  ?

    After considerable thought and reading on the matter,  hmmmmm,   maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that. 

    Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled. 

    Trade him in some big blockbuster deal....... 😆 

    Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed.     I'm running out of good ideas.  What could possibly be left ?  

    I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash,  Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that ! 

    Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the  country cleaning up the stadium after games.   

    SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ?    (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)

  • I just love Charlie Weiss.

    He spent a good portion of the season doubting Baker.  Now he’s upset by the Browns decision to give all of this guaranteed money to another QB and he spent five minutes explaining how the Browns really made no friends in the league making this move. 
     

    I thought the goal was to find a QB?

    and not give a rats @$$ if the Ravens or Bengals will now owe a ton of guaranteed money to their QBs?  A point brought up by his guest that the Browns have no crippled the Ravens and Bengals when it comes to paying their QBs (reset of the market) shrewd and wise? Perhaps 

  • I just love Charlie Weiss.

    He spent a good portion of the season doubting Baker.  Now he’s upset by the Browns decision to give all of this guaranteed money to another QB and he spent five minutes explaining how the Browns really made no friends in the league making this move. 
     

    I thought the goal was to find a QB?

    and not give a rats @$$ if the Ravens or Bengals will now owe a ton of guaranteed money to their QBs?  A point brought up by his guest that the Browns have no crippled the Ravens and Bengals when it comes to paying their QBs (reset of the market) shrewd and wise? Perhaps 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I just love Charlie Weiss.

    Jabba the Weiss can shut it with that "decided schematic advantage" of his.  Haven't been able to stand that man since before the Fiesta Bowl prep when tOSU slapped him and Brady Quinn around.  

    Coach flat out disrespected (and I don't use that term lightly) the Buckeyes defensive coaching staff and players.  The only crime from that game was the Bucks special teams play. Otherwise it would have been a 3 TD loss for the Irish.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I just love Charlie Weiss.

    Jabba the Weiss can shut it with that "decided schematic advantage" of his.  Haven't been able to stand that man since before the Fiesta Bowl prep when tOSU slapped him and Brady Quinn around.  

    Coach flat out disrespected (and I don't use that term lightly) the Buckeyes defensive coaching staff and players.  The only crime from that game was the Bucks special teams play. Otherwise it would have been a 3 TD loss for the Irish.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Jabba the Weiss can shut it with that "decided schematic advantage" of his.  Haven't been able to stand that man since before the Fiesta Bowl prep when tOSU slapped him and Brady Quinn around.  

    Coach flat out disrespected (and I don't use that term lightly) the Buckeyes defensive coaching staff and players.  The only crime from that game was the Bucks special teams play. Otherwise it would have been a 3 TD loss for the Irish.

    Absolutely that one ranks toward the top.

    Clemson Sugar Bowl win.  Alabama Sugar Bowl win.  That game probably third just because of Unwise old Jabba and the Irish.  Got to hand it to him…He parlayed that great ND career into a job at Kansas. 

  • @atom said:

    what would a team give up for him  if anything ? to take on his 18 million that is fully guaranteed (yes i know that is cheap if a team plans on starting him) so a trade would be perfect for us as there would not be any dead money

    options are we could pay him a lump sum signing bonus to lower the cap hit or go the Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books

    What to do with Baker  ?

    After considerable thought and reading on the matter,  hmmmmm,   maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that. 

    Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled. 

    Trade him in some big blockbuster deal....... 😆 

    Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed.     I'm running out of good ideas.  What could possibly be left ?  

    I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash,  Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that ! 

    Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the  country cleaning up the stadium after games.   

    SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ?    (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)

    @mjp28 said:

    What to do with Baker  ?

    After considerable thought and reading on the matter,  hmmmmm,   maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that. 

    Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled. 

    Trade him in some big blockbuster deal....... 😆 

    Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed.     I'm running out of good ideas.  What could possibly be left ?  

    I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash,  Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that ! 

    Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the  country cleaning up the stadium after games.   

    SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ?    (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)

    sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one  blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast

  • @westside-steve said:

    So do I!

  • @mjp28 said:

    What to do with Baker  ?

    After considerable thought and reading on the matter,  hmmmmm,   maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that. 

    Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled. 

    Trade him in some big blockbuster deal....... 😆 

    Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed.     I'm running out of good ideas.  What could possibly be left ?  

    I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash,  Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that ! 

    Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the  country cleaning up the stadium after games.   

    SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ?    (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)

    sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one  blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast

    @atom said:

    sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one  blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast

    Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.   

    VHS rentals were a big deal way back when,  getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in.   There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch. 

    Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ?   Or just buy it outright,  he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires. 

    Baker Mayfield in the booth ?  Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas  ?

  • @atom said:

    sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one  blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast

    Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.   

    VHS rentals were a big deal way back when,  getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in.   There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch. 

    Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ?   Or just buy it outright,  he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires. 

    Baker Mayfield in the booth ?  Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas  ?

    @mjp28 said:

    Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.   

    VHS rentals were a big deal way back when,  getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in.   There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch. 

    Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ?   Or just buy it outright,  he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires. 

    Baker Mayfield in the booth ?  Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas  ?

    Baker for President?... Scratch that!

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.   

    VHS rentals were a big deal way back when,  getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in.   There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch. 

    Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ?   Or just buy it outright,  he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires. 

    Baker Mayfield in the booth ?  Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas  ?

    Baker for President?... Scratch that!

    @nickers said:

    Baker for President?... Scratch that!

    He might carry Oklahoma.....maybe. 

  • A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ? 

    pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ? 

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  • A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ? 

    pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ? 

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    @gumby73 said:

    A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ? 

    pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ? 

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    Not rich enough for me.  

    We will get leverage eventually it may take some time and let’s get a 2023 pick or picks when we really need to start adding cheap affordable pieces. 

    We are all trying to race into a decision where we don’t need to…we don’t need to do Baker any favors by placing him on another roster right away.  

    a team will miss out on a QB in the draft…a starter will go down in camp…a HC will be placed on a hot seat or notice that they have to win games forcing the HC to make a move for this season. 

  • Trade Baker for a butcher and a candlestick maker.  Or a 3rd and 5th.

  • Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract..

  • @orion said:

    Well...that shoots a hole in my theory of 'Keep Keenum to start until Watson is allowed to play'.    I am just not in phase with the current Browns going-ons apparently.....

    Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too. 
     

    @westside-steve said:

    What's the difference? No way the Browns will keep him so why would another team give up assets? Except maybe to keep the salary in place for the season. Also the Browns don't want a competent or popular backup in case Watson is suspended or hurt or just sucks. They would really be a laughingstock with a quarterback controversy after everything they threw away to get the guy.

    WSS

    There are a number of teams still with QB needs and the options left are Winston, Mariota, Baker and a bad QB draft class.  For teams like Seattle, Indy and NO…they have pretty decent rosters and should compete with competent QB play.  
     

    Baker could be seen as a bridge or he may even be seen as a potential long term starter under a prove it deal.  He’s got more incentive than ever to show what he has…teams understand that. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too. 

    Yup and given the apparent, to me, direction we are shifting our O, to his potential fit is better.

    Will he work out? IFFY to be sure as a starter, but are there any SB MVP level QBs on the market? Evan were there there's always that cap thang. With Adams now gone Aarons' remaining interest in staying in GB has to have been obliterated. Of course, he shat in his own punchbowl in 2021 so no telling what interest lies in him.

    Problem I see is we seem to have fallen into a one player away approach and I do not get that. I see seasons of shoring up before that point is reached. And the draft capital we've spent only increased the difficulty.

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

  • Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract...

     League rules? Might have to clear waivers first, but otherwise, if not prohibited could be cool.

    has an nfl player even been traded to the cfl? Google/ ask find no examples...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too. 

    Yup and given the apparent, to me, direction we are shifting our O, to his potential fit is better.

    Will he work out? IFFY to be sure as a starter, but are there any SB MVP level QBs on the market? Evan were there there's always that cap thang. With Adams now gone Aarons' remaining interest in staying in GB has to have been obliterated. Of course, he shat in his own punchbowl in 2021 so no telling what interest lies in him.

    Problem I see is we seem to have fallen into a one player away approach and I do not get that. I see seasons of shoring up before that point is reached. And the draft capital we've spent only increased the difficulty.

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    @tour2ma said:

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

  • @tour2ma said:

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

    @atom said:

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

    I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start.