Baker to Carolina
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I just love Charlie Weiss.
Jabba the Weiss can shut it with that "decided schematic advantage" of his. Haven't been able to stand that man since before the Fiesta Bowl prep when tOSU slapped him and Brady Quinn around.
Coach flat out disrespected (and I don't use that term lightly) the Buckeyes defensive coaching staff and players. The only crime from that game was the Bucks special teams play. Otherwise it would have been a 3 TD loss for the Irish.
Jabba the Weiss can shut it with that "decided schematic advantage" of his. Haven't been able to stand that man since before the Fiesta Bowl prep when tOSU slapped him and Brady Quinn around.
Coach flat out disrespected (and I don't use that term lightly) the Buckeyes defensive coaching staff and players. The only crime from that game was the Bucks special teams play. Otherwise it would have been a 3 TD loss for the Irish.
Absolutely that one ranks toward the top.
Clemson Sugar Bowl win. Alabama Sugar Bowl win. That game probably third just because of Unwise old Jabba and the Irish. Got to hand it to him…He parlayed that great ND career into a job at Kansas.
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what would a team give up for him if anything ? to take on his 18 million that is fully guaranteed (yes i know that is cheap if a team plans on starting him) so a trade would be perfect for us as there would not be any dead money
options are we could pay him a lump sum signing bonus to lower the cap hit or go the Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books
What to do with Baker ?
After considerable thought and reading on the matter, hmmmmm, maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that.
Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled.
Trade him in some big blockbuster deal.......
Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed. I'm running out of good ideas. What could possibly be left ?
I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash, Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that !
Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the country cleaning up the stadium after games.
SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ? (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)
What to do with Baker ?
After considerable thought and reading on the matter, hmmmmm, maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that.
Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled.
Trade him in some big blockbuster deal.......
Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed. I'm running out of good ideas. What could possibly be left ?
I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash, Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that !
Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the country cleaning up the stadium after games.
SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ? (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)
sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast
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So do I!
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What to do with Baker ?
After considerable thought and reading on the matter, hmmmmm, maybe he could do dorky insurance commercials during every freaking break on BROWNS games......no we tried that.
Keep him as a backup quarterback......no it appears that all of the BROWNS QB positions are currently filled.
Trade him in some big blockbuster deal.......
Trade him to Blockbuster video........oh they're closed. I'm running out of good ideas. What could possibly be left ?
I got it...... work out a cash deal with NFL Inc. they have tons of cash, Mayfield for an undisclosed amount of cash to be Godell's right hand man for contract negotiations he's done that !
Well if all else fails he can be the highest paid janitor in the country cleaning up the stadium after games.
SO just how did the BROWNS get into this mess in the first place ? (I'm sure some of you know the answer here,)
sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast
sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast
Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.
VHS rentals were a big deal way back when, getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in. There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch.
Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ? Or just buy it outright, he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires.
Baker Mayfield in the booth ? Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas ?
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sup man but you are wrong about on thing there is one blockbuster left it is somewhere on the oregon coast
Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.
VHS rentals were a big deal way back when, getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in. There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch.
Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ? Or just buy it outright, he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires.
Baker Mayfield in the booth ? Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas ?
Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.
VHS rentals were a big deal way back when, getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in. There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch.
Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ? Or just buy it outright, he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires.
Baker Mayfield in the booth ? Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas ?
Baker for President?... Scratch that!
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Yeah I did see that on our news, kind of a video store holdout in a downloading and streaming world.
VHS rentals were a big deal way back when, getting on waiting lists for hot movies to come back in. There was a small video store across the street from my office and I'd walk over there and get movies to take home and watch.
Maybe Baker can get a job at that Blockbuster ? Or just buy it outright, he does still have piles of cash......in fact he doesn't really have to do anything if he so desires.
Baker Mayfield in the booth ? Or maybe Baker in the Bahamas ?
Baker for President?... Scratch that!
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A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ?
pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ?
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A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ?
pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ?
A possible Baker draft day trade with Carolina(137)/Atlanta(114)/Seattle(109) might gain us back another 4th ?
pending names on board? and if we have to eat some of Baker's cap? We might not mind, asking about flipping up to their pick in a higher round say in round 2 or 3 ?
Not rich enough for me.
We will get leverage eventually it may take some time and let’s get a 2023 pick or picks when we really need to start adding cheap affordable pieces.
We are all trying to race into a decision where we don’t need to…we don’t need to do Baker any favors by placing him on another roster right away.
a team will miss out on a QB in the draft…a starter will go down in camp…a HC will be placed on a hot seat or notice that they have to win games forcing the HC to make a move for this season.
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Old Buddy Boy has a right to bark ?
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Trade Baker for a butcher and a candlestick maker. Or a 3rd and 5th.
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Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract..
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Well...that shoots a hole in my theory of 'Keep Keenum to start until Watson is allowed to play'. I am just not in phase with the current Browns going-ons apparently.....
Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too.
What's the difference? No way the Browns will keep him so why would another team give up assets? Except maybe to keep the salary in place for the season. Also the Browns don't want a competent or popular backup in case Watson is suspended or hurt or just sucks. They would really be a laughingstock with a quarterback controversy after everything they threw away to get the guy.
WSS
There are a number of teams still with QB needs and the options left are Winston, Mariota, Baker and a bad QB draft class. For teams like Seattle, Indy and NO…they have pretty decent rosters and should compete with competent QB play.
Baker could be seen as a bridge or he may even be seen as a potential long term starter under a prove it deal. He’s got more incentive than ever to show what he has…teams understand that.
Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too.
Yup and given the apparent, to me, direction we are shifting our O, to his potential fit is better.
Will he work out? IFFY to be sure as a starter, but are there any SB MVP level QBs on the market? Evan were there there's always that cap thang. With Adams now gone Aarons' remaining interest in staying in GB has to have been obliterated. Of course, he shat in his own punchbowl in 2021 so no telling what interest lies in him.
Problem I see is we seem to have fallen into a one player away approach and I do not get that. I see seasons of shoring up before that point is reached. And the draft capital we've spent only increased the difficulty.
As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract..
Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract...
League rules? Might have to clear waivers first, but otherwise, if not prohibited could be cool.
has an nfl player even been traded to the cfl? Google/ ask find no examples...
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Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too.
Yup and given the apparent, to me, direction we are shifting our O, to his potential fit is better.
Will he work out? IFFY to be sure as a starter, but are there any SB MVP level QBs on the market? Evan were there there's always that cap thang. With Adams now gone Aarons' remaining interest in staying in GB has to have been obliterated. Of course, he shat in his own punchbowl in 2021 so no telling what interest lies in him.
Problem I see is we seem to have fallen into a one player away approach and I do not get that. I see seasons of shoring up before that point is reached. And the draft capital we've spent only increased the difficulty.
As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.
As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.
does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ? also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?
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As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.
does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ? also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?
does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ? also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?
I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start.
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does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ? also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?
I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start.
I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start.
He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.
Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.
WSS ?
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I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start.
He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.
Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.
WSS ?
He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.
Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.
WSS ?
Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve? In fact, I don't recall you posting this much about the Browns during the entire 2021 season as you have in defending your boy Baker Reagan the last month or so.
The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process.
Good times all around, for sure.
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He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.
Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.
WSS ?
Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve? In fact, I don't recall you posting this much about the Browns during the entire 2021 season as you have in defending your boy Baker Reagan the last month or so.
The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process.
Good times all around, for sure.
Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve?
The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process.
Good times all around, for sure.
Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.
Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?
WSS
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Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve?
The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process.
Good times all around, for sure.
Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.
Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?
WSS
Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.
Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?
WSS
Baker Mayfield was the #1 overall pick in a NFL Draft. Not sure how you equate the #1 overall pick of a NFL Draft with Rocky Balboa, who was an almost 30 year old mediocre club fighter and mob collector who got a shot at the heavyweight title. That's a bad analogy.
Your next comment makes zero sense too. Watson receiving a $230 mill contract is somehow buying US rose-colored glasses? HIS money is buying OUR support? Um... what?
The last comment, about what needs to happen to justify the trade for him is a loaded one. If he actually did all the things he has been accused of, there isn't a number of Super Bowl trophies high enough to ever justify putting someone like that on my favorite team's roster. Now, assuming that he never is actually charged with anything, as it has actually played out? That's actually a good, legit question. Giving up on Baker means nothing to me, he had his chance. All the draft picks, and all that guaranteed money? I feel like you really need a Super Bowl victory to justify it, long term.
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