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  • Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Pretty sure this is just April Foolishness -- but it's still fun because it would be a wacky way to offload Baker's contract...

     League rules? Might have to clear waivers first, but otherwise, if not prohibited could be cool.

    has an nfl player even been traded to the cfl? Google/ ask find no examples...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Keenum was too expensive. And Brissett is probably a better option too. 

    Yup and given the apparent, to me, direction we are shifting our O, to his potential fit is better.

    Will he work out? IFFY to be sure as a starter, but are there any SB MVP level QBs on the market? Evan were there there's always that cap thang. With Adams now gone Aarons' remaining interest in staying in GB has to have been obliterated. Of course, he shat in his own punchbowl in 2021 so no telling what interest lies in him.

    Problem I see is we seem to have fallen into a one player away approach and I do not get that. I see seasons of shoring up before that point is reached. And the draft capital we've spent only increased the difficulty.

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    @tour2ma said:

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

  • @tour2ma said:

    As for Baker... Could be a draft Day, trade piece, but feels like we are rapidly approaching the time to simply hold him for the early-season starter injury(ies) desperation teams. If he looks good in preseason, maybe some interest rises. Of course by then, half this Board will be a fan again.

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

    @atom said:

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

    I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start. 

  • @atom said:

    does baker lose out on any money if he doesnt show up for mandatory mini camp ?  also if he is on the roster do you really think he would play a snap in the pre season ?

    I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start. 

    He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.

    Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.

    WSS ?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I could be dead wrong, but I just cannot see the Cheesecake Factory Kid still being on the roster when training camps start. 

    He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.

    Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.

    WSS ?

    @westside-steve said:

    He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.

    Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.

    WSS ?

    Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve? In fact, I don't recall you posting this much about the Browns during the entire 2021 season as you have in defending your boy Baker Reagan the last month or so. 

    The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process. 

    Good times all around, for sure. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    He might as well. Keep his nose clean his chin up and do whatever is asked. You know those snakes in the front office don't want that. Let them eat the 19 million bucks like a Big Slice of Cheesecake and either sit him at the third slot or sabotage the game plan when he's in just to show what a bunch of vindictive pricks they are.

    Anyway there's only two ways it can turn out realistically. The massage parlor pervert takes him to the Superbowl single-handedly at which point everything is completely forgotten. Or for one reason or another they fall on their ass which will make the Hue Jackson years look like Vince Lombardis reign.

    WSS ?

    Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve? In fact, I don't recall you posting this much about the Browns during the entire 2021 season as you have in defending your boy Baker Reagan the last month or so. 

    The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process. 

    Good times all around, for sure. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve?

    The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process. 

    Good times all around, for sure. 

    Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.

    Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Boy, you are just lathering the "Poor Victim Baker" narrative on nice and thick, huh Steve?

    The Browns invested a #1 overall pick on him, he ended up being decent but underwhelming, and they moved on with a definite upgrade in Watson, while most likely selling their souls in the process. 

    Good times all around, for sure. 

    Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.

    Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Absolutely. And the dice are either going to roll my way or the haters way. As far as selling one's soul like I said before there's a reason we, at least I, rooted for Rocky Balboa and not Clubber Lang even though Lang was the heavy favored in every fight.

    Furthermore it doesn't matter if Watson only raped a few of those chicks, 230 million dollars will buy a lot of pairs of rose colored glasses for you guys. But be honest what do you think would be an acceptable return? Wildcard? Win the division? AFC Championship? Super Bowl? How far short could we fall and you still accept the deal?

    WSS

     Baker Mayfield was the #1 overall pick in a NFL Draft. Not sure how you equate the #1 overall pick of a NFL Draft with Rocky Balboa, who was an almost 30 year old mediocre club fighter and mob collector who got a shot at the heavyweight title. That's a bad analogy.

    Your next comment makes zero sense too. Watson receiving a $230 mill contract is somehow buying US rose-colored glasses? HIS money is buying OUR support? Um... what?

    The last comment, about what needs to happen to justify the trade for him is a loaded one. If he actually did all the things he has been accused of, there isn't a number of Super Bowl trophies high enough to ever justify putting someone like that on my favorite team's roster. Now, assuming that he never is actually charged with anything, as it has actually played out? That's actually a good, legit question. Giving up on Baker means nothing to me, he had his chance. All the draft picks, and all that guaranteed money? I feel like you really need a Super Bowl victory to justify it, long term.   

  • Latest speculation.  Patty cake Baker to the Seahawks for D.K. Metcalf and next years 2nd.  One year rental for a shot at a ring.  Bye, bye Bake?

  • Latest speculation.  Patty cake Baker to the Seahawks for D.K. Metcalf and next years 2nd.  One year rental for a shot at a ring.  Bye, bye Bake?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Latest speculation.  Patty cake Baker to the Seahawks for D.K. Metcalf and next years 2nd.  One year rental for a shot at a ring.  Bye, bye Bake?

    Baker and a 2nd for D.K.  Whatever the deal, Therapist Toucher needs a hot start.

  • @calfoxwc said:

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      1)  About Hunt - AGAIN  - I believe in second chances. I agreed with McDowell getting a second chance. Hunt flipped his career and life around - that is impressive. We all thought McDowell did until...you know.

    2)   About Willis - I only said that because he is also black, also a major scrambler, and is two inches shorter than watson, and has a very strong arm. Not my first choice - I would have wanted a qb drafted - one that kids could look up to.

    3)   I said nothing about being a Christian - watson has been successful - and he has also been sacked more times than a dozen mexican jumping potatoes. (I know, not a real thing, I just made it up just for you). Baker haters would say "he can't read defenses"....

    4) but watson will get a pass. Time will tell if it works out - but there are plenty of fans grossed out by this stupid move.

    5) The question ya have to inevitably ask is this - "why did watson have to go to 22 different therapists?" If 1, 2 or 3 - said a lie for a big money payoff - it would be easier to believe he was a fool to get taken in by a fraudulent lawsuit.

    But 22 ??? The question is, can all them prove he was a client? then I think some may have jumped on the bandwagon for $$$$$, but not the majority. 22 different women - you have to wonder why. You'd think he would go to one and keep going. That tells me something is really corrupt in watson land.

       It's just that life is great fun, we love fishing and camping...have mega hobbies, it's spring, time to garden, and the draft is now something I just don't care about.

    6) At least I'm being consistent - I didn't like rosen's character, and watson - nope - far, far worse. I just have better things to do, now that this controversy has started. Again, they do not care about alienating folks who want to believe in their team - that says a lot about the dismal state of affairs. It just seems serious subtraction by addition, and paying a huge price for controversy. Just my choice.

    1) Then give Watson one to turn his life around.  🙂  

    2) OK Mrs Tebow...  

    3) "Slow on the draw Baker" gets sacked about as many times as Watson has... Look it up.  🙂   

    4) Yeah, I know.. You're not the only Browns fan. 

    5) Now we're getting to the crux of the matter Cal.. do you have kids? Daughters? Would you want them to get into the (sort of sleazy) Massage business?  FWIW, in Ohio there's a thing that you can apply for as a "Licensed Medical Massage Therapist".  I will bet you the RANCH (and then some) that NONE of the women Deshawn was seeing on multiple times held that designation. Go look at the other thread- why would said women want him as a repeat customer if he's asking them to do stuff they object to?  Yeah- he tips well.  Got it.  

    6) No one here is denying that Watson made some bad decisions based on the $$$ he makes and his notoriety. But.. You're going to have to consider the source of the accusations. Those women don't make a ton of money, and um... just maybe they're a tad short in the morality department themselves.  Like I'll (blackmail) you Deshawn if you don't pay me $30,000?  

    @hoorta said:

    6) No one here is denying that Watson made some bad decisions

    Wake me up when those bad decisions result in actual charges. We all went to college, some of us even to a state school.  To date, all that's happened consists of one word : Gossip. And it's weak gossip at that.

    I recognize the gossip exists - but as to the truth of the matter asserted.. Put up or shut up. Everyone blathering on about morality is not updating that hypothesis to include the reality that the prosecution can't even find enough hearsay to convince people that there's a 51% chance the narrative is true..

    Where's the morality in destroying someone's life for something he didn't do?

  • @hoorta said:

    6) No one here is denying that Watson made some bad decisions

    Wake me up when those bad decisions result in actual charges. We all went to college, some of us even to a state school.  To date, all that's happened consists of one word : Gossip. And it's weak gossip at that.

    I recognize the gossip exists - but as to the truth of the matter asserted.. Put up or shut up. Everyone blathering on about morality is not updating that hypothesis to include the reality that the prosecution can't even find enough hearsay to convince people that there's a 51% chance the narrative is true..

    Where's the morality in destroying someone's life for something he didn't do?

    @unsympathetic said:

    Wake me up when those bad decisions result in actual charges. We all went to college, some of us even to a state school.  To date, all that's happened consists of one word : Gossip. And it's weak gossip at that.

    I recognize the gossip exists - but as to the truth of the matter asserted.. Put up or shut up. Everyone blathering on about morality is not updating that hypothesis to include the reality that the prosecution can't even find enough hearsay to convince people that there's a 51% chance the narrative is true..

    Where's the morality in destroying someone's life for something he didn't do?

    I agree with that 100%. If it's proved that anybody lied that would be worthy of jail time much worse than just being rude. As a matter of fact I don't think rudeness should be actionable by law. On the other hand if he got rough or physical with anybody in his insistence? That's a different story.

    WSS

  • is it a coincidence that they do that the day after Baker's podcast drops?

  • He's like a bad penny.  Baker's better...but he costs a pretty penny.

  • Rumored Teams with draft picks to acquire one.... Baker Reagan Mayfield ?

    • Carolina
    • No. 6 (first round)
    • No. 137 (fourth round) 
    • No. 144 (fifth round)
    • No. 149 (fifth round)
    • No. 199 (sixth round) 
    • No. 242 (seventh round)
    •  
    • Seattle
    • Round 1: No. 9 overall 
      Round 2: Nos. 40* & 41* overall (* rumored Jimmy G trade value)
      Round 3: No. 72
      Round 4: No. 109 
      Round 5: Nos. 152 & 153
      Round 7: No. 229

    • Detroit
    • Round 1: Nos. 2 & 32 *
      Round 2: No. 34 *
      Round 3: Nos. 66 & 97
      Round 5: No. 177
      Round 6: Nos. 181 & 217
      Round 7: No. 234 (from Browns)

    • Atlanta

    • Round 1: No. 8 overall
      Round 2: Nos. 43* & 58 *
      Round 3: Nos. 74 & 82 
      Round 4: No. 114
      Round 5: No. 151
      Round 6: Nos. 190 & 213

    • Washington
    • 1st round: 11th overall
    • 2nd round: 47th overall
    • 4th round: 113th overall
    • 6th round: 189th overall
    • 7th round: 231st overall
    • 7th round: 241st overall
    •  
    •  
    • Saints
    • Round 1: Nos. 16 and 19 
      Round 2: No. 49
      Round 3: No. 98
      Round 4: No. 120
      Round 5: No. 161
      Round 6: No. 194

    Pittsburgh

    • First round, 20th pick
    • Second round, 52nd pick
    • Third round, 84th pick
    • Fourth round, 138th overall
    • Sixth round, 208th pick
    • Seventh round, 225th pick
    • Seventh round, 241st pick

    Tampon Bay ?

    • 1st round: 27th overall
    • 2nd round: 60th overall
    • 3rd round: 91st overall
    • 4th round: 133rd overall
    • 7th round: 248th overall
    • 7th round: 261st overall

    Sleeper ?.. Arizona

    1st round: 23rd overall
    2nd round: 55th overall
    3rd round: 87th overall
    6th round: 201th and 215th overall
    7th round: 242nd, 256th, and 257th overall

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  • Great podcast, Baker. Bravo.

  • Great podcast, Baker. Bravo.

    @vaportrail said:

    Great podcast, Baker. Bravo.

    Unless you are being facetious I liked it just fine.

    No idea how much Smith is being guaranteed and at what point during negotiations they could shitcan him if need be. If it were me, I'd prefer to go there than Carolina.

    WSS

  • Baker is better than Jimmy G. and more established than Trey Lance.  Deebo opens up the field.

  • Baker is better than Jimmy G. and more established than Trey Lance.  Deebo opens up the field.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Baker is better than Jimmy G. and more established than Trey Lance.  Deebo opens up the field.

    you celebrating 4/20 ?

  • sydS syd

    @skippinturtles said:

    Baker is better than Jimmy G. and more established than Trey Lance.  Deebo opens up the field.

    you celebrating 4/20 ?

    @syd said:

    you celebrating 4/20 ?

    Hell yeah!

  • Deebo is an ideal Watson weapon and addition to this offense. Think of the motion jet sweeps with the threat of Chubb or a Watson keeper. 
     

    Do they want Cooper and the rights to every pick we have left this year and next?