2022 Draft Prospects and off-season addition breakdowns.

Dutch Oven

@tiamat63 said:

13.33% drop rate? To quote the immortal Randy Jackson - that's a no from me dawg.

That's some Quincy Morgan shit right there.

tiamat63

@dutch-oven said:

That's some Quincy Morgan shit right there.

Corey Coleman was a 13% rate, If I recall.

Dotson's size doesn't concern me when he has a QB like Deshaun throwing to him. There are more than enough ways to get him favorable matchups. From what I've seen, he's quick, strong, has great feet and solid hands. We know Cooper has taken over as the downfield threat, Dotson can pepper everywhere else on the field provided we get him the opportunities.

Dutch Oven

@tiamat63 said:

Corey Coleman was a 13% rate, If I recall.

Dotson's size doesn't concern me when he has a QB like Deshaun throwing to him. There are more than enough ways to get him favorable matchups. From what I've seen, he's quick, strong, has great feet and solid hands. We know Cooper has taken over as the downfield threat, Dotson can pepper everywhere else on the field provided we get him the opportunities.

Color me intrigued on Dotson.

SdBacker80

Dotson made Shaun Wade look like a fool at Happy Valley in 2020…but Wade struggled that whole year.

Beating press on the college level and doing it at the pro level are two different animals.

I still think Drake London is the special one here. Dotson (Wilson too) does well in the contested catch area but London is the freak here…and that’s going to be 90% of the pro game.

tiamat63

@texasag1969 LSU vs his Aggies

@ 1:15 - there's one thing the teams I've watched so far have had almost zero success with. Blocking NFJ on an inside zone, at the 1tech, using just the center. Because this is fucking textbook control. The RG immediately moves to the 2nd level on his zone step, NFJ fires off with good pad level and arm extension. He controls the outside shoulder of the center, keeps his eyes up for more work, then rips back inside going arm over shoulder. For a guy who doesn't have elite arm length, that type of 'active' is exactly how you win on the interior like that.

@ 1:21 - The very next play is outstanding work against the downblock by the RG, and the help from the center on the seal. Neil fights through the contact, staying square with his eyes up, finishes beating the RG to his (inside) shoulder, then gets first contact on that ball carrier from what would have been the A (either side of the center) gap. So far, A&M has had limited success running the ball inside on early downs. Probably why they aired it out so early and often at the start of the game. His continued fight through the double, and not allowing the RG to 'turn' him back inside, absolutely made this play. NFJ shut that hole down almost himself.

**** Stopping for a moment to gush over another player I don't know who this #99 is on the IDL for LSU?!?! He's their 3 tech in rotation and I've seen him in on sub packages and pass rush situations. But watch this kid for next year, he's jumped off the screen a few times when I wasn't even watching him. Remember me posting about him mid-way through this upcoming 2022 season **** Back to Neil.

@ 3:05 - Again stands up the center, wins the LOS, uses enough arm extension to attack and close the L-A Gap. Nothing flashy, just the necessary dirty work. But these linebackers have a lot of room on the interior to move without constant 2nd level contact.

@ 5:34 - Center gets handled so bad he loses his footing and is desperate to keep Neil from walking up the middle. Almost could have drawn a tripping call here. But there's no interior pocket integrity for the QB to step up in. The strength of the LSU defense is past season is very obvious - their IDL rotation was outstanding. No wonder they gave teams fits.

@ 5:42 - With Neil drawing the RG and Center, this WILL backer (23) gets to absolutely fly into the G gap reading clear. Fortunately for the backer and his timing, he also gets ahead of the pull by the RT and completely destroys the mesh point of this handoff.

@ 6:01 - Neil gets matched up 1 on 1 in pass pro against the center. Works from the centers left shoulder, uses an arm over move and gets by him to his right shoulder. At this point, LSU is winning all across the Dline. There's no pocket integrity for their QB and that makes play calling a bitch. Because you have no setup point, you can't run the ball inside, and it limits your concept calls because you have no time to throw downfield.

@ 6:25. Neil isn't in this play, but I wanted to show the effects on what a good Dline can have on a QB when they've been consistently effective edge to edge all night. That boy has more happy feet than both of those stupid penguin movies combined. ZERO confidence stepping up and delivering that ball, dropping further ball and outside from pressure that wasn't even present that play because he's been feeling it all night, so now he's just expecting it to be there. Having to setup on the run or from further back behind the line. When A&M's QB finally starts his throwing motion, he's 13.5 yards behind the original LOS. HOLY. FUCK.'

@ 7:22 - Center and the LG on the double. Neil causes what amounts to a crash crash in that A gap, and the RG hasn't moved his man on his downblock. This RB has no where to go by primary design. Like I said, LSU's IDL is/was the real deal.

@ 8:45 - NFJ's control on the center, despite being the R-A gap, plus the LG losing his assignment, allows the WILL backer to get over top without worrying about some cutback with this inside zone and he limits the RB to 3 yards.

Wasn't until well into the 3rd QTR that A&M dialed up more pin and pull and off tackle looks and stopped going at LSU's interior. Then they started finding a bit of success. I can't speak to the quality of the Aggies Oline, so if TexAgs wants to chime in, that would be hot. That will about wrap it up for me on Neil, I have some other players I need to work on. I can't only get 3-4 games in for each one. I feel comfortable enough with 3 games giving a solid assessment on Farrell and feeling firm with where I stand on him. He would still be my preferred pick starting in the 5th round. My initial look hasn't changed and neither has what Neil does best. He's that early down plugger any team could use for cheap on their Dline rotation with the potential that he blossoms into a bit more with coaching, reps and conditioning.

Going to move onto a name I was given by a friend - Logan Hall, IDL from Houston.

TexasAg1969

The A&M OL was full of freshmen all rebuilt save Kenyon Green. A lot of talent, but a lot of inexperience too. They will get better over time playing together. They were also hampered by an inexperienced QB who was not even good enough to be retained now that King is back, Johnson transferred in from LSU and a supertalented freshman has joined the team. The 2022 team should look like a yo yo with so many new soph & freshman players in both lines. Tons of talent but it takes time to become a real coordinated team. I think their top 10 rating should be saved for 2023 & 24, not this year.

gumby73

@AdamSchefter

Free-agent safety Ronnie Harrison is signing back with the Browns on a one-year deal, per his agents @DrewJRosenhaus and @RyanMatha.

@AdamSchefter

Former Steelers’ QB Josh Dobbs agreed to a 1-year deal with the Cleveland Browns, per his agent @MikeMcCartney7.

gumby73

nothing yet on contract deals yet ^^^^ // but this looks odd

Cap Spending: Full Roster

POSITION	PLAYERS	CAP DOLLARS	% OF CAP	NFL RANK
Offense	31	$120,840,397	55.51%	3*
Defense	22	$62,245,798	28.59%	31*
Special Teams	5	$5,315,000	2.44%	20

gumby73

Did a little age scouting this Sunday morning

Covid & draftable ages ...

1.) Only Willis will be age 23 before week 1. Pickett thru Crumm will be ages 24..Skylar Thompson will be age 25..

2.) Oldest draftable? WR Tenn. Velus Jones will be 25.5 years old.

3.) Wyatt Davis/B. Ralmann/ P.Mathis/ Josh Jobe/ JoJo Domann/ Haskell Garrett/ K.Diesch/ Chase Allen/ M.Cunningham/ D.Drummond will be closing in on the age of 25

4.) Class of age 24? Jermaine Johnson/ T.Penning/ Boye Mafe/ Christian Watson/ Troy Anderson/ C.Austin/ Coby Bryant/ Cole Strange/ John Pashal/ Sam Williams/ TE J.Woods & C.Kolar/ OL J.Shaffer/ A.Lindstrom & A.Stuber and DT Neil Farrell Jr.

Interested to see how Berry plays this ? after those rookie deals? they can't wait much longer to get paid

Dutch Oven

Can't believe the Draft is less than three weeks away.

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

Can't believe the Draft is less than three weeks away.

3 weeks prior to every nfl draft, my boss knows my leave slip will arrive to take off..

59th birthday falls on night 1 and I refuse to go back to work until a Tuesday Approved since 1980 (after post I was ranked to a Apprentice ?)

mjp28

@gumby73 said:

3 weeks prior to every nfl draft, my boss knows my leave slip will arrive to take off..

59th birthday falls on night 1 and I refuse to go back to work until a Tuesday Approved since 1980 (after post I was ranked to a Apprentice ?)

Yeah apprentice kind of sounds strange after all these years and posts.

I haven't been an apprentice for a long, long time like 50+ years.

And the Draft is a NFL junkies national holiday.

Dutch Oven

@gumby73 said:

3 weeks prior to every nfl draft, my boss knows my leave slip will arrive to take off..

59th birthday falls on night 1 and I refuse to go back to work until a Tuesday Approved since 1980 (after post I was ranked to a Apprentice ?)

You still stoked for the upcoming Draft gumby?

I think my excitement kind of fell off after the Browns traded away their first rounder, and my hope the Browns could get Garrett Wilson ended, but I'm sure in the week leading up I'll get in the mood again.

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

You still stoked for the upcoming Draft gumby?

I think my excitement kind of fell off after the Browns traded away their first rounder, and my hope the Browns could get Garrett Wilson ended, but I'm sure in the week leading up I'll get in the mood again. (feel better draft night..I don't think GW gets to pick #13)

I get stoked for the nfl draft every year Dutch'ster..memories of JT fishing while Brady Quinn, sweated it out in the green room..

Remember when Shashi took this team to the dirt? Well me & Bronco fan stepson took a Amtrak to the Philly draft... Myles Garrett was drafted(and my pick over Trib/or anyone) & my only favorite drafted players left on the team? were Joe Thomas & Joel Bitonio...

We also went to the Tennessee draft-day in 2019. With OBJ as our 17th pick traded to the NYG's in our pockets 🥷.. Yeah, It was a long wait to Greedy Williams at pick #46.. but night one? there's nothing like partying with 500k draft geeks wearing mask.. ?

Watson becomes a huge traded piece at #13(plus)...and we again wait to pick #44 (from #46).. or do we?

Since the 2017 Philly draft this team has been building on winning.. Oddly, we passed on Watson in the same Philly Draft at pick #12, where my journeys all started in 2017... Now, If somehow they get this Watson trade right?

Yeah! I'm really Excited !

Unsympathetic

I just don't see Kyle Hamilton as very good at much of anything. Hamilton isn't a good hitter and makes up for that by not being good at changing direction. He can cover most tight ends.. but you don't take a guy in the first 2 days for that.

Kyle Hamilton RAS -- he's the height/weight/explosion guy which is the classic bust profile if taken high.

ballpeen

Our 1st pick is still our 1st pick. Trading three 1st rounders isn't going to be a problem this year or next year. I am not sure about the 3rd year. Still a ways off.

This year is deep in good players. Maybe not as many of the stud types, but a lot of guys who are going to be solid starters and depth in the NFL. Lucky for us a lot of the draft depth is at positions we have listed as a need. If we take a DT at 44, we will still find very good receivers in to the 4th round.

Next year is looking like the best QB class in the last 15 years. Lot's of QB's are going fly off the board, sending players with 1st round grades in to round 2. Even if we win the SB, our pick should get a solid starter type player. That will follow for at least another round where in round 3 there will probably be guys with high 3rd round grades sitting there when we pick. Maybe even some 2nd round grades.

Like I said, 3 years off is 3 years off. We might start to be able to form some opinions on that next year at this time. Overall we are in a good spot.

tiamat63 · Mar 7, 2022 32 1View on X

@unsympathetic said:

I just don't see Kyle Hamilton as very good at much of anything. Hamilton isn't a good hitter and makes up for that by not being good at changing direction. He can cover most tight ends.. but you don't take a guy in the first 2 days for that.

Kyle Hamilton RAS -- he's the height/weight/explosion guy which is the classic bust profile if taken high.

I've been underwhelmed by two people so far.

- Hamilton and Chud Muma from Wyoming.

Johnson from FSU might fall into that category at some point.

Still trying to formulate best how I feel about Logan Hall from HOU. I think it was Athlons draft guide that had him listed as their pick for CLE in the 2nd. So far I'm "meh" on that.

tiamat63

@nickers said:

Snowflake much? Who died and left you boss?

There are people, including myself, who take their time to invest in good football talk here. Time that many of us don't have a hell of a lot to spare. That's why I generally tend to check the thread(s) I start and focus on those only.

I prefer to keep it that way. You are more than welcomed to rant in any of the other ones that aren't this. In fact, I'd encourage it. Keep this one on target though.

Thank you.

mjp28

@nickers said:

Snowflake much? Who died and left you boss?

Bad choice of words there.....just think about it for a minute or two or three.

Unsympathetic

@nickers said:

you want to go ALL COMMUNIST and surpress that

The correct analogy would be to "go all capitalist" - and fire you from the thread for slowing down the production line.

If you want to make an economic comment, please learn at least a hint of objective reality about the words you're throwing around.

I do realize you're trying to use "communist" to mean "something I don't personally like" -- but it's a pretty old exclamation, like "Go cut me a switch!" China today is no less capitalist than the US. It's just run by a different group of 100 oligarch capitalists extracting the wealth. Russia isn't communist any more either -- it's also oligarch capitalism as a result of the 1991 revolution. Feelings may come if you actually allow these facts to challenge the propaganda you're being bombarded with elsewhere. "Going all end-stage capitalism and analyzing my posts like I'm a gig worker and each post is a new deliverable" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue..

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming:

Mid-round S in the rotation could be Cine and JT Woods. Not for man coverage but if they're still on the board in rd4, you make those picks.

Mid-round DL -- [Edge] Josh Paschal, Eseze Otemewo, Arnold Ebiketie [DI] Eric Johnson, Matt Henningsen. Massive athletes, the question is the technique and consistency.. you know, professional sports.