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  • Well.....

    not exactly Cliff Lee.

  • Well.....

    not exactly Cliff Lee.

    @cimo. said:

    Well.....

    not exactly Cliff Lee.

    Yeah, quite a bit not exactly that. Still fun to watch and dream and all that sort of thing. But so far, so not all that awesome.

    Beanpot

  • Kind of ridiculous how hard the whole "get the ball down" thing can be.

    Actually looks a lot like Cliff in his first couple starts this year. (How's that for glass half full?)

    How much worse would this be without Valbuena?

  • You know, I was sitting there watching that game last night and looking at both Jackson and Carrasco, it was weird.

    I remember two years ago the Indians going down to TB and Jackson starting. Indians hammered him, and the whole night they talked about how many starts Edwin Jackson had made, w/o recording a W. In watching the Indians knock him around the park though, it was like they hit the ball hard or struck out.

    That's what I saw in Carrasco last night. You can see that the talent is there and that he just needs to mature as a pitcher. The talk about him is that he's emotional, gets upset or excited easily, etc. A lot of young pitchers are this way. Nothing I saw last night concerns me long term.

    CC and Carmona most recently had the same problem. Couldn't keep the ball down in the zone, because they were getting too amped up, trying to throw the ball too hard. Remember Carmona's stint at Closer in the post Bob Wickman era? 0-11 record or something, and a ridiculous stretch at Fenway where he couldn't keep the ball in the park. He took 3-4mph off his fastball, and Torii Hunter said it was like being at the plate while drunk.

  • The good thing I saw was that it didn't actually seem like Carrasco got rattled at all last night.

    As someone said earlier, he couldn't keep the ball down. Additionally, I think he relied a bit to much on his fastball. Guys were just waiting for it and reacting to the off speed pitches. Once the catching staff gets used to him, I think we'll see better pitch selection. I do think the kid showed he has some talent.

  • I'm not really sure what I think. His fastball looked really straight and never really got up to the 95mph range. His changeup is supposed to be his money pitch, but like you said, people would just sit on the fastball...so we didn't actually get a good look at what he's capable of.

    Maybe I've just been watching too much Neftali Feliz lately. My expectations were pretty high.

  • My hopes were high, but my expectations were low for his first start.

  • 09/06/09 3:48 PM ET

    Carrasco hopes for strong second start

    Cleveland (60-76) vs. Texas (76-60), 6:05 p.m. ET

    By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com

    CLEVELAND -- Those first moments on a big league mound made for a nervous time for Carlos Carrasco.

    "When I feel the mound and see all the people, I was almost scared a little bit," he said. "I had been to the Futures Game and seen all the people, but it's not like that."

    Carrasco is referring to his Major League debut against the Tigers on Tuesday, when he was battered for six runs on nine hits with three walks, three strikeouts and three homers allowed in just three innings of work.

    It was not the most auspicious of debuts for the guy who is considered a key acquisition from the trade that sent reigning American League Cy Young Award-winner Cliff Lee to the Phillies, but it was merely that -- a debut. The Indians don't expect it to be a precursor of things to come for the 22-year-old Carrasco, who is a highly regarded power arm.

    Carrasco admitted he fell victim to the temptation to overthrow against the Tigers, and that flattened out his fastball. He hopes to correct the issue on Labor Day, when he gets the starting nod for the Tribe's series opener against the Rangers.

    "I threw in the bullpen [Friday]," Carrasco said, "and just worked on thinking about the game and telling myself to take it easy."

    One thing the Indians' coaching staff liked about Carrasco's first outing is that he didn't let the onslaught of hits he suffered force him to lose his cool or composure. That level-headed approach, they feel, should suit him well at this level.

    Before the Tigers' outing, Carrasco's initial experiences in the Indians' organization had largely been positive. He was excited to join this team in the July 29 trade, because he knew it represented an opportunity to pitch in the big leagues in the near future.

    But he also knew he'd have high expectations heaped upon him because of the pitcher the Indians gave up to get him.

    "In my mind, I knew they traded a great pitcher, a Cy Young winner," Carrasco said, "so I knew I had to do the job. I became more focused."

    Carrasco was 6-9 with a 5.18 ERA with Lehigh Valley in the Phillies' organization. But with Triple-A Columbus, he was 5-1 with a 3.19 ERA. He said he benefited from working with Columbus pitching coach Scott Radinsky.

    "He told me I have to trust my fastball," Carrasco said of Radinsky. "That's what I had to do."

    And that's what he'll have to do against the Rangers and beyond. Trust the fastball, and don't overthrow it.

    http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/arti...sp&c_id=cle

    Beanpot

  • Outing #2's results are not much better than outing #1 🙁

  • Outing #2's results are not much better than outing #1 🙁

    Masters said:

    Outing #2's results are not much better than outing #1 🙁

    rondon anyone?

  • Just have to let him work it out. Leaving Carrasco in Columbus, based on the numbers he put up there, is not going to help him much at all. Patience...it's not as if we're trying to do anything but get a jump on next season.