Draft Thoughts
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......Here's what Lindy's Draft Guide says about him as their Prototype for Initial Quickness: "Centers with truly elite quickness aren't all that common, but Jurgens has it. He has special burst out of his stance, and it allows him to hit angles that most blockers can't attempt." And then they went on to leave him out of their top 6 Centers. They did put him in the next tier of "Worth Watching."
I think it was you that previously mentioned Luke Fortner from Kentucky as another good prospect. If we don't go Center as early as round 2, he'd be really good pick for us a little later. In 2021, he earned All SEC First Team honors on a very good line that competed in a great conference.
By the end of the draft, it would be nice if we landed a WR, Center, Tackle, DT, Edge Rusher, LB and DB. Anything else we can look to sign Undrafted Free Agents. We shall see...
Pretty much a standard wish list for the BROWNS.
And no quarterback as part of their development plan ? No first round pick on a WR ? How many people thought this after the Watson deal ? More than a few I'd guess.
I wonder how much the term character comes up during the three draft days.
Pretty much a standard wish list for the BROWNS.
And no quarterback as part of their development plan ? No first round pick on a WR ? How many people thought this after the Watson deal ? More than a few I'd guess.
I wonder how much the term character comes up during the three draft days.
One thing is for certain MJ. It's gonna be interesting. Stay tuned? You bet!
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......Here's what Lindy's Draft Guide says about him as their Prototype for Initial Quickness: "Centers with truly elite quickness aren't all that common, but Jurgens has it. He has special burst out of his stance, and it allows him to hit angles that most blockers can't attempt." And then they went on to leave him out of their top 6 Centers. They did put him in the next tier of "Worth Watching."
I think it was you that previously mentioned Luke Fortner from Kentucky as another good prospect. If we don't go Center as early as round 2, he'd be really good pick for us a little later. In 2021, he earned All SEC First Team honors on a very good line that competed in a great conference.
By the end of the draft, it would be nice if we landed a WR, Center, Tackle, DT, Edge Rusher, LB and DB. Anything else we can look to sign Undrafted Free Agents. We shall see...
Pretty much a standard wish list for the BROWNS.
And no quarterback as part of their development plan ? No first round pick on a WR ? How many people thought this after the Watson deal ? More than a few I'd guess.
I wonder how much the term character comes up during the three draft days.
Pretty much a standard wish list for the BROWNS.
And no quarterback as part of their development plan ? No first round pick on a WR ? How many people thought this after the Watson deal ? More than a few I'd guess.
I wonder how much the term character comes up during the three draft days.
We just traded for a QB we plan on being here for 5 or more years, so the rush for developmental QB isn't a big priority. Plus, most teams don't draft that guy in round 1. I'd say there is a chance we draft a QB this year or next.
I actually think Dobbs might be a guy we extend for 2-3 years after this season. Brissett not so much IMO, but what do i know.
I think both are here on a 1 year try-out to see which we elect to keep for 3 more.
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Pretty much a standard wish list for the BROWNS.
And no quarterback as part of their development plan ? No first round pick on a WR ? How many people thought this after the Watson deal ? More than a few I'd guess.
I wonder how much the term character comes up during the three draft days.
We just traded for a QB we plan on being here for 5 or more years, so the rush for developmental QB isn't a big priority. Plus, most teams don't draft that guy in round 1. I'd say there is a chance we draft a QB this year or next.
I actually think Dobbs might be a guy we extend for 2-3 years after this season. Brissett not so much IMO, but what do i know.
I think both are here on a 1 year try-out to see which we elect to keep for 3 more.
We just traded for a QB we plan on being here for 5 or more years, so the rush for developmental QB isn't a big priority. Plus, most teams don't draft that guy in round 1. I'd say there is a chance we draft a QB this year or next.
We had 3 coaches/coaching at the shrine bowl this season. Berry had a zoom meeting with the Brown QB EJ Perry...
my thinking was Berry might be looking for a UDFA QB camp arm with size & some upside..some team may draft Perry late?..heck, It might be us
Could we chance putting one of Dobbs or Brissett on the PS without getting plucked by another team? All these jealous owners & GM's seem to have a ? pointed at AB...
Man! It's like Thursday will never get here ! ?
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Just speaking for myself, I would always keep 3 QBs on the active roster. The position is important enough. I also feel that there is much to be gained by those guys by being on the sidelines, at the coaches hip.
I don't know what the plan is. I have read we may have interest in Perry. Maybe the plan is to draft or sign him as a UDFA and let Dobbs and Brissett battle it out for the back-up position and cutting the loser. Again, just me but I think I would rather have Dobbs though the preseason will tell that tale. In the end, with a question mark over the Watson status we will probably keep both of Brissett and Dobbs on the active and any QB brought in will be the practice guy.
Maybe not for this year, but I liked the Patriots strategy of drafting a QB fairly high, then using them for trade bait 2-3 years later. At worst you gain value in the way of a pick. At best you really do get a QB you can go with.
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Just speaking for myself, I would always keep 3 QBs on the active roster. The position is important enough. I also feel that there is much to be gained by those guys by being on the sidelines, at the coaches hip.
I don't know what the plan is. I have read we may have interest in Perry. Maybe the plan is to draft or sign him as a UDFA and let Dobbs and Brissett battle it out for the back-up position and cutting the loser. Again, just me but I think I would rather have Dobbs though the preseason will tell that tale. In the end, with a question mark over the Watson status we will probably keep both of Brissett and Dobbs on the active and any QB brought in will be the practice guy.
Maybe not for this year, but I liked the Patriots strategy of drafting a QB fairly high, then using them for trade bait 2-3 years later. At worst you gain value in the way of a pick. At best you really do get a QB you can go with.
Just speaking for myself, I would always keep 3 QBs on the active roster. The position is important enough. I also feel that there is much to be gained by those guys by being on the sidelines, at the coaches hip.
I don't know what the plan is. I have read we may have interest in Perry. Maybe the plan is to draft or sign him as a UDFA and let Dobbs and Brissett battle it out for the back-up position and cutting the loser. Again, just me but I think I would rather have Dobbs though the preseason will tell that tale. In the end, with a question mark over the Watson status we will probably keep both of Brissett and Dobbs on the active and any QB brought in will be the practice guy.
Maybe not for this year, but I liked the Patriots strategy of drafting a QB fairly high, then using them for trade bait 2-3 years later. At worst you gain value in the way of a pick. At best you really do get a QB you can go with.
I would think strategy would be to get a day 4 QB in the 5-7 rounds. They can showcase enough talent in preseason to make someone give up a 2nd round pick (compensation the pats got for Jimmy G) I don’t see enough playing time with a developmental QB in the next four years to show off enough to get better picks. In a couple years let’s revisit this
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Malik Willis, QB - Liberty.
He doesn't run like Vick, Lamar or even Jake Locker. His mobility reminds me of a little quicker version of Donovan Mcnabb. But for all the rage of him being a "mobile" QB, he appears (by my 1 whole game watched) to be just that. He's a QB first who looks perfectly content not leaving the pocket until he has to/ is forced to.
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On tonights NFL Nation Mock Draft on ESPN, where a local media member drafts for every respective team, Chris Olave was taken by the Houston Texans with the #13 overall pick, formerly owned by the Browns.
Ohio State WR Garrett Wilson was already off the clock, taken by the NY Jets at #10 overall.
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Here's Doug Lesmerises' of the Cleveland Plain Dealer's final mock.
Rd 2: #44 WR George Pickens, Georgia
Rd 3: #78 DE Josh Paschel, Kentucky
Rd 3: #99 CB Coby Bryant, Cincinnati
Rd 4: #118 TE Charlie Kolar, Iowa
Rd 5: #150 K Cade York, LSU
Rd 7: #223 S Bubba Bolden, Miami
Rd 7: #246 DT Haskell Garrett, Ohio State -
Was Bill Belichick's dog drafting every other pick in that guy's mock? If Coby Bryant is available at the end of the 3rd color me shocked.. same with most of those guys
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Was Bill Belichick's dog drafting every other pick in that guy's mock? If Coby Bryant is available at the end of the 3rd color me shocked.. same with most of those guys
Was Bill Belichick's dog drafting every other pick in that guy's mock? If Coby Bryant is available at the end of the 3rd color me shocked.. same with most of those guys
The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Was Bill Belichick's dog drafting every other pick in that guy's mock? If Coby Bryant is available at the end of the 3rd color me shocked.. same with most of those guys
The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
Yeah, I never understood why some people get so bent over mock drafts... THERE'S NO WAY THAT TEAM WOULD TAKE THAT PLAYER IN THAT SPOT! Then we watch the draft, and crazy shit happens all over the place. A guy every draft publication says is a 6th or 7th rounder gets taken halfway through the 2nd... (Chaun Thompson ring a bell for anyone?)
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I still don't want to believe the Chump pick.
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Was Bill Belichick's dog drafting every other pick in that guy's mock? If Coby Bryant is available at the end of the 3rd color me shocked.. same with most of those guys
The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
That's why I've never really got overly serious about mock drafts even though they can be fun to do.
It's going to be for real in about 33 hours from now.... OMG it doesn't seem like it really is happening after the long wait.
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The thing with mocks is they are easy to mock so to speak. Some site could mock the 1st round exactly how it plays out on Thursday and it would seem unbelievable and flawed.
That's why I've never really got overly serious about mock drafts even though they can be fun to do.
It's going to be for real in about 33 hours from now.... OMG it doesn't seem like it really is happening after the long wait.
That's why I've never really got overly serious about mock drafts even though they can be fun to do.
It's going to be for real in about 33 hours from now.... OMG it doesn't seem like it really is happening after the long wait.
I don't know what it i.. But I'm not one bit excited for this draft.... I guess it really does not matter what the Clowns do anymore after selling out...
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Any word on that kid from Nebraska? Center, Cam Jurgens.
Opinions vary... mostly mine vs. talking heads. I see nothing remarkable, Zuerlein sees a quickness that I do not, so ZBS fit?. All of us do seem to agree that anchoring vs a bull rush could be problematic. And I think we have that area covered.
I actually like Taven. Good resign IMO. Flashed a few times last season, which for a part timer is fine... But still need another part timer and that could be Butler. Also sets up competition for whomever develops to stick beyond 2022.
RB that just caught my eye is Central Michigan's Lew Nichols. Not the fastest (by a fair margin), but shifty and pretty strong on a compact frame.
Opinions vary... mostly mine vs. talking heads. I see nothing remarkable, Zuerlein sees a quickness that I do not, so ZBS fit?. All of us do seem to agree that anchoring vs a bull rush could be problematic. And I think we have that area covered.
Got around to watching Jurgens. Not taking this kid before the 5th, and even then? 6th-7th.
He's a decently big, fast, farm boy looking for a street fight and little else. Has no technique, no polish, no pacing on his snaps, questionable play strength and loses his base far too often when engaged. His game against OU was just... I watched the cutup twice because the first I was shaking my head half the snaps. Had to be sure of what I was looking at.
However he does have fast eyes when making choices in protection and quickly finds his work with how lightning his feet are. He just plays really wound tight though. Almost like he's so jacked up to just hit someone that he forgets it's football. There's far more to this game than just slugging the other lineman in front of you.
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I'll miss the 1st round (band rehearsal) but I'll be tuned in on Friday night.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I'll miss the 1st round (band rehearsal) but I'll be tuned in on Friday night.
FREE BIRD!
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FREE BIRD!
I brought Ride The River - JJ Cale, to rehearsal a couple of weeks ago. They loved it, we now do it, I sing it (with one of the real singers
), and play the solo. A cool song about that time that we're all striving towards. It's on Road To Escondido with his buddy Clapton. Just a great, great album IMO.
....and now back to draft thoughts and bickering.
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Every year our division rivals draft players we like.
I hope the Steelers don’t draft Linderbaum. I think he’s good this year and very good the next decade. It fixes one of the weakest spots on the Steelers roster Interior Oline. Here’s to the Steelers thinking Malik Willis is a franchise QB.
I hope the Ravens don’t draft another Buckeye like Olave. A guy that can get behind a defense and track an errant throw from Jackson.
Bengals I hope their defense doesn’t become elite.
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I'll miss the 1st round (band rehearsal) but I'll be tuned in on Friday night.
Is that why you traded away all our R1 picks?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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