Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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Actually the earliest ever SB was January 9 in Pasadena, Rose Bowl..... nice cold weather site.

Now they are all in February and it's not just the game it's the overall logistics of SB Week, travel, hotels, and everything else.
Even a SB in a northern dome is a big gamble if there's a midwinter blizzard. Oh well probably will not be in.....
Exactly. Even if the game is out of bad weather, everything else might no be. One also have to consider that the SB isn't as much for the fans as it is the major sponsors. More than half the tickets are given to companies like Coca Cola and whoever to use as they please.
Face it, I love going to Cleveland. I live in Tennesse a stones throw away from the Ga border. I use my season tickets, but if and when I go to a Superbowl, for what it is going to cost, I don't want a Cleveland or Chicago in Feb. Nor do many others. Give me New Orleans or Tampa or Socal.
Exactly. Even if the game is out of bad weather, everything else might no be. One also have to consider that the SB isn't as much for the fans as it is the major sponsors. More than half the tickets are given to companies like Coca Cola and whoever to use as they please.
Face it, I love going to Cleveland. I live in Tennessee a stones throw away from the Ga border. I use my season tickets, but if and when I go to a Super Bowl, for what it is going to cost, I don't want a Cleveland or Chicago in Feb. Nor do many others. Give me New Orleans or Tampa or Socal.
Besides the major sponsors 'Peen.. Add in the respective team's corporate sponsors. Also the celebs who can afford the secondary market going price for the week long "Experience". Regular fans have been priced out. My hat's off to you for being correct about us season ticket holders not having a chance at face value Super Bowl Tickets.
If you missed it... The owner of our local wine store has been a Bengals season ticket holder from Day One. 50 yard line, row 2 behind the Bengals bench. Get asked if he would be interested in Super Bowl tickets? Um, nope.
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I donno, pine needle tea can be pretty intoxicating, especially if you add a sprig of mushroom.??
bs. A morel mushroom added to pine needle tea is not intoxicating at all. The mix would have vitamin C, a good bit of vitamin d, etc etc.
https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/morel-mushroom.html
Right now, I have a cold, so I'm making some common mallow tea for that. Then I read more of sleazy's legal issues.
3 first round draft picks. and more. and .....guaranteed contract for....
dammit.
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I donno, pine needle tea can be pretty intoxicating, especially if you add a sprig of mushroom.??
bs. A morel mushroom added to pine needle tea is not intoxicating at all. The mix would have vitamin C, a good bit of vitamin d, etc etc.
https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/morel-mushroom.html
Right now, I have a cold, so I'm making some common mallow tea for that. Then I read more of sleazy's legal issues.
3 first round draft picks. and more. and .....guaranteed contract for....
dammit.
bs. A morel mushroom added to pine needle tea is not intoxicating at all. The mix would have vitamin C, a good bit of vitamin d, etc etc.
https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/morel-mushroom.html
Right now, I have a cold, so I'm making some common mallow tea for that. Then I read more of sleazy's legal issues.
3 first round draft picks. and more. and .....guaranteed contract for....
dammit.
You are using the wrong mushroom!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom
And I thought we were discussing sleazy orange man's legal issues over there now.?
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bs. A morel mushroom added to pine needle tea is not intoxicating at all. The mix would have vitamin C, a good bit of vitamin d, etc etc.
https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/morel-mushroom.html
Right now, I have a cold, so I'm making some common mallow tea for that. Then I read more of sleazy's legal issues.
3 first round draft picks. and more. and .....guaranteed contract for....
dammit.
You are using the wrong mushroom!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom
And I thought we were discussing sleazy orange man's legal issues over there now.?
️?
You are using the wrong mushroom!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom
And I thought we were discussing sleazy orange man's legal issues over there now.?
️?
Careful now.. You'll become a "Calfoholic"
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Actually the earliest ever SB was January 9 in Pasadena, Rose Bowl..... nice cold weather site.

Now they are all in February and it's not just the game it's the overall logistics of SB Week, travel, hotels, and everything else.
Even a SB in a northern dome is a big gamble if there's a midwinter blizzard. Oh well probably will not be in.....
Exactly. Even if the game is out of bad weather, everything else might no be. One also have to consider that the SB isn't as much for the fans as it is the major sponsors. More than half the tickets are given to companies like Coca Cola and whoever to use as they please.
Face it, I love going to Cleveland. I live in Tennesse a stones throw away from the Ga border. I use my season tickets, but if and when I go to a Superbowl, for what it is going to cost, I don't want a Cleveland or Chicago in Feb. Nor do many others. Give me New Orleans or Tampa or Socal.
Even if the game is out of bad weather, everything else might no be
Yeah, northern non-NY cities aren't as desirable as warm weather sites. But with a dome you probably would get one.
The actual SB game is the last thing on corporate minds. It's the days leading up to it where everyone wants to make their money. Shops, clubs, restaurants, hotels, etc. see the game as, The few hours before everyone packs up and goes home.
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meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
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meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
Look up the word perseveration.
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meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
Look up the word perseveration.
Look up the word perseveration.
But first, have cal tell us more stories of him hitting on older men at grocery stores and doctor offices by using the Browns as a conversation starter.
Those stories are gold!
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Exactly. Even if the game is out of bad weather, everything else might no be. One also have to consider that the SB isn't as much for the fans as it is the major sponsors. More than half the tickets are given to companies like Coca Cola and whoever to use as they please.
Face it, I love going to Cleveland. I live in Tennessee a stones throw away from the Ga border. I use my season tickets, but if and when I go to a Super Bowl, for what it is going to cost, I don't want a Cleveland or Chicago in Feb. Nor do many others. Give me New Orleans or Tampa or Socal.
Besides the major sponsors 'Peen.. Add in the respective team's corporate sponsors. Also the celebs who can afford the secondary market going price for the week long "Experience". Regular fans have been priced out. My hat's off to you for being correct about us season ticket holders not having a chance at face value Super Bowl Tickets.
If you missed it... The owner of our local wine store has been a Bengals season ticket holder from Day One. 50 yard line, row 2 behind the Bengals bench. Get asked if he would be interested in Super Bowl tickets? Um, nope.
Besides the major sponsors 'Peen.. Add in the respective team's corporate sponsors. Also the celebs who can afford the secondary market going price for the week long "Experience". Regular fans have been priced out. My hat's off to you for being correct about us season ticket holders not having a chance at face value Super Bowl Tickets.
If you missed it... The owner of our local wine store has been a Bengals season ticket holder from Day One. 50 yard line, row 2 behind the Bengals bench. Get asked if he would be interested in Super Bowl tickets? Um, nope.
I considered the others. I just didn't feel the need to extend the list. It goes on and on. Teams get so many tickets. It can't be that many. Maybe 100? 200? You have to give some of the employees a ticket. As you said, people who make the decisions at First Energy probably get a few. As for season ticket holder, they usually have some sort of lottery and maybe 10 fans get a couple of tickets.
Again, the SB really isn't for the fans. It's a party for the NFL to celebrate. I don't get all worked up over it because I get it....it is what it is.
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People on this thread acting as if the Browns had been going to Superbowls recently and the Watson drama has derailed the franchise. Truths
We weren't doing crap before Watson
Watson is our best chance at getting to a Superbowl
Watson seems creepy
Grand jury(who will indict anything) went through 22 separate charges and did not indict. Go ahead and find a case where someone was facing more than 10 and not 1 charge stuck. Says something negative about the plaintiffs no matter how you want to spin it.
The plaintiffs (women) situation seems weird they all represented by the McNair's (Texans owners) good friend and neighbor
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Zombo said:
The Cleveland Browns are choosing their QBs "to be popular with the big cities for bigger betwork contracts".
What?
There is so much wrong with that, that I don't know where to begin.
Z
Start over on the other board. Then you'll understand.?
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Besides the major sponsors 'Peen.. Add in the respective team's corporate sponsors. Also the celebs who can afford the secondary market going price for the week long "Experience". Regular fans have been priced out. My hat's off to you for being correct about us season ticket holders not having a chance at face value Super Bowl Tickets.
If you missed it... The owner of our local wine store has been a Bengals season ticket holder from Day One. 50 yard line, row 2 behind the Bengals bench. Get asked if he would be interested in Super Bowl tickets? Um, nope.
I considered the others. I just didn't feel the need to extend the list. It goes on and on. Teams get so many tickets. It can't be that many. Maybe 100? 200? You have to give some of the employees a ticket. As you said, people who make the decisions at First Energy probably get a few. As for season ticket holder, they usually have some sort of lottery and maybe 10 fans get a couple of tickets.
Again, the SB really isn't for the fans. It's a party for the NFL to celebrate. I don't get all worked up over it because I get it....it is what it is.
I considered the others. I just didn't feel the need to extend the list. It goes on and on. Teams get so many tickets. It can't be that many. Maybe 100? 200? You have to give some of the employees a ticket. As you said, people who make the decisions at First Energy probably get a few. As for season ticket holder, they usually have some sort of lottery and maybe 10 fans get a couple of tickets.
Again, the SB really isn't for the fans. It's a party for the NFL to celebrate. I don't get all worked up over it because I get it....it is what it is.
Oh, I'm not worked up about it at all... Except 'Peen... The two teams that actually make it to the Super Bowl get 18.5% of the available tickets. If you want to assume SoFi seats 80,000. That means the Bengals got nearly 15,000 tickets.... AND long time season ticket holders still got shut out. Yes, the Browns only got 700 tickets or so this past February, those probably went to players & their wives, coaches, and a few big buck corporate sponsors.
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Zombo said:
Ya, no thanks, but the only big city the Browns want to be popular in is in Cleveland, and they only way to do that is winning. I think that is what drives the roster, lol.
Z
Winning cures a lot of ills....it always has regardless of the city or sport. The tricky part how do you go about accomplishing that.
It always starts with the upper ownership and management and works it way down and that's true in almost every organization business, sports, whatever.
If you're lacking (or rotten) at the top you've got big problems. You can't expect the janitor to lead the way.
Right now despite some good parts the Cleveland BROWNS have some issues to work through. You want to b
e mentioned favorably on the sports page not the butt of jokes on the front page.
★ Remember too loyal fans will remain loyal fans they just don't need this extra BS that's going around now. Your starting quarterback is supposed to lead the team not come off as some stupid sleazy dude.
Any helpful suggestions ?
GO BROWNS, we love ya'.
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meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
meanwhile, back to the subject - the preview - on Fox 8 tomorrow at six, a bombastic statement by one of the women who are suing sleazy watson.
so, I saw on the sports news that the browns released Felix Harper, qb.
who is black.
Now, the question I bring up is, with not THAT many black qb's in the NFL, how is it that the browns traded for, signed FOUR black qbs this year? without doing it UNintentionally? It seems to show their desire to be popular with the big cities for bigger network contracts. The giant hideous price they paid for sleazy is the first of four indications that they had some kind of intent to do what they did.
I wouldn't think to ask the question, except for the 3 first round draft picks and guaranteed con......
dammit.
this makes the top 10 list
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People on this thread acting as if the Browns had been going to Superbowls recently and the Watson drama has derailed the franchise. Truths
We weren't doing crap before Watson
Watson is our best chance at getting to a Superbowl
Watson seems creepy
Grand jury(who will indict anything) went through 22 separate charges and did not indict. Go ahead and find a case where someone was facing more than 10 and not 1 charge stuck. Says something negative about the plaintiffs no matter how you want to spin it.
The plaintiffs (women) situation seems weird they all represented by the McNair's (Texans owners) good friend and neighbor
People on this thread acting as if the Browns had been going to Superbowls recently and the Watson drama has derailed the franchise. Truths
We weren't doing crap before Watson
Watson is our best chance at getting to a Superbowl
Watson seems creepy
Grand jury(who will indict anything) went through 22 separate charges and did not indict. Go ahead and find a case where someone was facing more than 10 and not 1 charge stuck. Says something negative about the plaintiffs no matter how you want to spin it.
The plaintiffs (women) situation seems weird they all represented by the McNair's (Texans owners) good friend and neighbor
You don't seem to understand the situation. The reason the grand jury didn't indict is because they found no criminality in being a scumbag.
Watson is being charged with sexual misconduct which although not a crime, can be subject to a civil suit. Inappropriate touching for example is sexual misconduct or harassment. Not being indicted for a crime doesn't absolve him from being punished for behavior unbecoming an NFL player. I believe the 22 women.
And no one is acting as if the Browns had been going to Super Bowls. Don't know how the fuck you derived at that.
Yeah Watson seems creepy. At least you got that right.
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I considered the others. I just didn't feel the need to extend the list. It goes on and on. Teams get so many tickets. It can't be that many. Maybe 100? 200? You have to give some of the employees a ticket. As you said, people who make the decisions at First Energy probably get a few. As for season ticket holder, they usually have some sort of lottery and maybe 10 fans get a couple of tickets.
Again, the SB really isn't for the fans. It's a party for the NFL to celebrate. I don't get all worked up over it because I get it....it is what it is.
Oh, I'm not worked up about it at all... Except 'Peen... The two teams that actually make it to the Super Bowl get 18.5% of the available tickets. If you want to assume SoFi seats 80,000. That means the Bengals got nearly 15,000 tickets.... AND long time season ticket holders still got shut out. Yes, the Browns only got 700 tickets or so this past February, those probably went to players & their wives, coaches, and a few big buck corporate sponsors.
Oh, I'm not worked up about it at all... Except 'Peen... The two teams that actually make it to the Super Bowl get 18.5% of the available tickets. If you want to assume SoFi seats 80,000. That means the Bengals got nearly 15,000 tickets.... AND long time season ticket holders still got shut out. Yes, the Browns only got 700 tickets or so this past February, those probably went to players & their wives, coaches, and a few big buck corporate sponsors.
Thanks for reminding me on the 18% figure. I somehow knew that and didn't remember.
It still sounds like you are worked up over season ticket holders being shut out.
As I have come to understand, the conference championships are for the fans. Season ticket holders are first in line to be able to buy those. I don't have to buy the tickets to my seats if I don't want to buy them. Those aren't included in your season ticket package. The Superbowl is for the league and sponsors. It's probably been that way for the last 30 or more years.
Your season tickets are good for home games, not games outside of the teams stadium. I do get that it would be nice if us fans had a shot at some tickets, and I am sure some do. If I had to guess it starts with suite holders. PB stadium probably has 100 suites. Each person or company that owns one probably gets a shot at tickets and it is probably more like 10-20 tickets available for each, not 2.
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Not that it really proves anything one way or the other. WTF is going on just after 11 minutes?
Hard to imagine all 22 are lying or that all 22 are telling the whole truth.
WSS
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This... who's the hole thing may never end
I've read/seen all I'm gonna see..
Your NFL Conduct Policy can talk big talk about players not hurting your NFL brand..
So, at this time, the only thing Watson may have done was use his NFL money/nfl fame to outsource to many massage's..
Amend your conduct policy books & move along to waiting the outcome of the civil cases next season..
I'm going with D. Wat get's 2 suspended games.. Panthers/Jets..
Back for the Steelers on TNF sounds NFL'ish
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