Baker to Carolina
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I was surprised that a majority of Steelers fans actually wanted him; not that he's bad; I like him but I never thought that he was a fit for PIT. Now that the draft is over and we got 4 QB's he is the furthest thing from our minds.
I'm really disappointed in how things played out with CLE picking up his 5th year option, then paying too much for a serial sex offender QB. Yes, Jimmy said that he wants CLE to be just like PIT but having a serial sex offender QB is not the best way to copy the Steelers. See, we didn't know that Ben was a rapist before we got him, and if we had known that, then we wouldn't have gotten him.
I was surprised that a majority of Steelers fans actually wanted him; not that he's bad; I like him but I never thought that he was a fit for PIT. Now that the draft is over and we got 4 QB's he is the furthest thing from our minds.
I'm really disappointed in how things played out with CLE picking up his 5th year option, then paying too much for a serial sex offender QB. Yes, Jimmy said that he wants CLE to be just like PIT but having a serial sex offender QB is not the best way to copy the Steelers. See, we didn't know that Ben was a rapist before we got him, and if we had known that, then we wouldn't have gotten him.
And we would be where we at now while Ben is moonwalking into the HOF. People are just gonna have to eat a reality bullet....you're gonna have a player(s) with horrible issues on every winning squad. They maynot come to light but it is what it is. ex. You really think Belicheck and NE didn't know Hernandez was a murdering psychopath? As detailed oriented that organization is?? But you always hear the "Patriot Way"....right? I'm at a point...if the court of law clears you...that's it..game on.
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Because Mayfield is on his rookie deal, likely no contract implications for sitting out minicamp
One detail that hasn't been mentioned: If Mayfield reports and walks out, Browns could place him on the "reserve/left squad" list which freezes his contract for the year and prevents Baker Mayfield from playing NFL football anywhere in 2022 -- no cash goes to him, next season would be considered the 5th of his rookie deal, we repeat the same showdown next offseason
In a perfect world for the Browns, if they kept him, he'd refuse to report, the Browns would then not have to pay him, freeing up $19 mill, and he'd still become a free agent after the season ended, giving the Browns a comp pick for him leaving. I'm guessing that can't happen, though?
In a perfect world for the Browns, if they kept him, he'd refuse to report, the Browns would then not have to pay him, freeing up $19 mill, and he'd still become a free agent after the season ended, giving the Browns a comp pick for him leaving. I'm guessing that can't happen, though?
I think you guess right. Baker might or might not be stupid but I am pretty sure his agent isn't. No way he doesn't report if required.
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Posted on youtube this afternoon.
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For those of you who won't watch it.. Manziel was a one-and-run even in his Heisman year, and he left points on the board multiple times with poor accuracy to wide-open WR's who had to dive/stop to make the catch. Even his "highlight" sandlot plays contained problems of his own making -- he butt-fumbled to himself because he ran into his own OL while leaving the pocket too early.
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For those of you who won't watch it.. Manziel was a one-and-run even in his Heisman year, and he left points on the board multiple times with poor accuracy to wide-open WR's who had to dive/stop to make the catch. Even his "highlight" sandlot plays contained problems of his own making -- he butt-fumbled to himself because he ran into his own OL while leaving the pocket too early.
For those of you who won't watch it.. Manziel was a one-and-run even in his Heisman year, and he left points on the board multiple times with poor accuracy to wide-open WR's who had to dive/stop to make the catch. Even his "highlight" sandlot plays contained problems of his own making -- he butt-fumbled to himself because he ran into his own OL while leaving the pocket too early.
I had never watched him in depth until that 2013 bowl season. But I remember him struggling to process even the most vanilla cover 3 looks from Uconn. His ability to read then anticipate zone coverage windows was Brady Quinn-esque. Top off the fact he was a marginal athlete and below average size for the QB position...
I think my first post on this board was declaring how much of a fraud that pick was. Hurts because that 2014 class was loaded with talent. Imagine that team having spent picks on Mike Evans and depth at center instead of trotting out Miles Austin?
Or even better - not hiring Jim O'Neill.
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Per Ian Rapoport. . .
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I wonder if now Berea is going to keep Baker for the initial games this season while Watson is suspended.. if we're going to pay him, might as well play him.
But perhaps NFL is going to "Hold" the decision on Watson, not that there's anything more to learn of course. And why? Look no further than the NFL's Categorical Imperative - had Kant placed "Suck it, Cleveland" as the highest moral precept.
I wonder if now Berea is going to keep Baker for the initial games this season while Watson is suspended.. if we're going to pay him, might as well play him.
But perhaps NFL is going to "Hold" the decision on Watson, not that there's anything more to learn of course. And why? Look no further than the NFL's Categorical Imperative - had Kant placed "Suck it, Cleveland" as the highest moral precept.
Yeah, from a month ago... BUT with Baker now excused from mandatory mini camp, it's obvious should Watson get suspended, we're rolling with Brissett. Baker can sit at home and collect his paychecks.
I had never watched him in depth until that 2013 bowl season. But I remember him struggling to process even the most vanilla cover 3 looks from Uconn. His ability to read then anticipate zone coverage windows was Brady Quinn-esque. Top off the fact he was a marginal athlete and below average size for the QB position...
I think my first post on this board was declaring how much of a fraud that pick was. Hurts because that 2014 class was loaded with talent. Imagine that team having spent picks on Mike Evans and depth at center instead of trotting out Miles Austin?
Or even better - not hiring Jim O'Neill.
Arrrgghhh!!! You would have to make me look up the Browns disaster of the 2014 NFL draft. OK, we did draft Bitonio in the second. However, Evans went off the board one pick before the Browns decided to take megabust Justin Gilbert. ? Wanna barf? If instead of Gilbert and Manziel, had the Browns drafted Aaron Donald and Derek Carr instead (both available when Cleveland drafted), I'd hazard a wild guess the Browns wouldn't have gone 0-16 a few years down the road...
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I was surprised that a majority of Steelers fans actually wanted him; not that he's bad; I like him but I never thought that he was a fit for PIT. Now that the draft is over and we got 4 QB's he is the furthest thing from our minds.
I'm really disappointed in how things played out with CLE picking up his 5th year option, then paying too much for a serial sex offender QB. Yes, Jimmy said that he wants CLE to be just like PIT but having a serial sex offender QB is not the best way to copy the Steelers. See, we didn't know that Ben was a rapist before we got him, and if we had known that, then we wouldn't have gotten him.
I was surprised that a majority of Steelers fans actually wanted him; not that he's bad; I like him but I never thought that he was a fit for PIT. Now that the draft is over and we got 4 QB's he is the furthest thing from our minds.
I'm really disappointed in how things played out with CLE picking up his 5th year option, then paying too much for a serial sex offender QB. Yes, Jimmy said that he wants CLE to be just like PIT but having a serial sex offender QB is not the best way to copy the Steelers. See, we didn't know that Ben was a rapist before we got him, and if we had known that, then we wouldn't have gotten him.
Hey 'SE Asia' go back to your pedo ring.
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I wonder if now Berea is going to keep Baker for the initial games this season while Watson is suspended.. if we're going to pay him, might as well play him.
But perhaps NFL is going to "Hold" the decision on Watson, not that there's anything more to learn of course. And why? Look no further than the NFL's Categorical Imperative - had Kant placed "Suck it, Cleveland" as the highest moral precept.
Yeah, from a month ago... BUT with Baker now excused from mandatory mini camp, it's obvious should Watson get suspended, we're rolling with Brissett. Baker can sit at home and collect his paychecks.
I had never watched him in depth until that 2013 bowl season. But I remember him struggling to process even the most vanilla cover 3 looks from Uconn. His ability to read then anticipate zone coverage windows was Brady Quinn-esque. Top off the fact he was a marginal athlete and below average size for the QB position...
I think my first post on this board was declaring how much of a fraud that pick was. Hurts because that 2014 class was loaded with talent. Imagine that team having spent picks on Mike Evans and depth at center instead of trotting out Miles Austin?
Or even better - not hiring Jim O'Neill.
Arrrgghhh!!! You would have to make me look up the Browns disaster of the 2014 NFL draft. OK, we did draft Bitonio in the second. However, Evans went off the board one pick before the Browns decided to take megabust Justin Gilbert. ? Wanna barf? If instead of Gilbert and Manziel, had the Browns drafted Aaron Donald and Derek Carr instead (both available when Cleveland drafted), I'd hazard a wild guess the Browns wouldn't have gone 0-16 a few years down the road...
Yeah, from a month ago... BUT with Baker now excused from mandatory mini camp, it's obvious should Watson get suspended, we're rolling with Brissett. Baker can sit at home and collect his paychecks.
Arrrgghhh!!! You would have to make me look up the Browns disaster of the 2014 NFL draft. OK, we did draft Bitonio in the second. However, Evans went off the board one pick before the Browns decided to take megabust Justin Gilbert. ? Wanna barf? If instead of Gilbert and Manziel, had the Browns drafted Aaron Donald and Derek Carr instead (both available when Cleveland drafted), I'd hazard a wild guess the Browns wouldn't have gone 0-16 a few years down the road...
Bito was like a redemption shot in beer pong - sure you get to keep playing, but that aim damn well better improve fast or you're still going to lose.
Don't forget we did move down from 4, which is what put us out of reach for Mike Evans ( IIRC? Honestly, I was hammered drunk that night)
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Yeah, from a month ago... BUT with Baker now excused from mandatory mini camp, it's obvious should Watson get suspended, we're rolling with Brissett. Baker can sit at home and collect his paychecks.
Arrrgghhh!!! You would have to make me look up the Browns disaster of the 2014 NFL draft. OK, we did draft Bitonio in the second. However, Evans went off the board one pick before the Browns decided to take megabust Justin Gilbert. ? Wanna barf? If instead of Gilbert and Manziel, had the Browns drafted Aaron Donald and Derek Carr instead (both available when Cleveland drafted), I'd hazard a wild guess the Browns wouldn't have gone 0-16 a few years down the road...
Bito was like a redemption shot in beer pong - sure you get to keep playing, but that aim damn well better improve fast or you're still going to lose.
Don't forget we did move down from 4, which is what put us out of reach for Mike Evans ( IIRC? Honestly, I was hammered drunk that night)
Bito was like a redemption shot in beer pong - sure you get to keep playing, but that aim damn well better improve fast or you're still going to lose.
Don't forget we did move down from 4, which is what put us out of reach for Mike Evans ( IIRC? Honestly, I was hammered drunk that night)
and I did forget that we moved down from #4 that evening.
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We've had a lot of messes since 1999.
yep, but this one takes the all time worst award/
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Baker Mayfield trade talk thread...... CLE and SF ? Who wins here ?
Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield are both stuck in limbo as their teams look to move them via trade, but an interesting solution could kill two birds with one stone for the San Francisco 49ers and Cleveland Browns.
Both teams are expected to be contenders next season but face a unique situation at quarterback. The Browns have been unable to move Mayfield after trading for Deshaun Watson, mostly due to his near $19 million salary for next season. The 49ers are also looking to move on from their former starter in Garoppolo, opting to start 2021 No. 3 overall pick Trey Lance. Garoppolo is due $24 million and is coming off surgery on his throwing shoulder.
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Baker Mayfield trade talk thread...... CLE and SF ? Who wins here ?
Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield are both stuck in limbo as their teams look to move them via trade, but an interesting solution could kill two birds with one stone for the San Francisco 49ers and Cleveland Browns.
Both teams are expected to be contenders next season but face a unique situation at quarterback. The Browns have been unable to move Mayfield after trading for Deshaun Watson, mostly due to his near $19 million salary for next season. The 49ers are also looking to move on from their former starter in Garoppolo, opting to start 2021 No. 3 overall pick Trey Lance. Garoppolo is due $24 million and is coming off surgery on his throwing shoulder.
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
Baker Mayfield trade talk thread...... CLE and SF ? Who wins here ?
Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield are both stuck in limbo as their teams look to move them via trade, but an interesting solution could kill two birds with one stone for the San Francisco 49ers and Cleveland Browns.
Both teams are expected to be contenders next season but face a unique situation at quarterback. The Browns have been unable to move Mayfield after trading for Deshaun Watson, mostly due to his near $19 million salary for next season. The 49ers are also looking to move on from their former starter in Garoppolo, opting to start 2021 No. 3 overall pick Trey Lance. Garoppolo is due $24 million and is coming off surgery on his throwing shoulder.
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
I like it!! Let's swap QBs!! Ding ding change QBs when the bell rings! ??
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Baker Mayfield trade talk thread...... CLE and SF ? Who wins here ?
Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield are both stuck in limbo as their teams look to move them via trade, but an interesting solution could kill two birds with one stone for the San Francisco 49ers and Cleveland Browns.
Both teams are expected to be contenders next season but face a unique situation at quarterback. The Browns have been unable to move Mayfield after trading for Deshaun Watson, mostly due to his near $19 million salary for next season. The 49ers are also looking to move on from their former starter in Garoppolo, opting to start 2021 No. 3 overall pick Trey Lance. Garoppolo is due $24 million and is coming off surgery on his throwing shoulder.
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.
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Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.
So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.
So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.
Might need some negotiating by both parties to pull that off -but- it could be done.
I think Mayfield as a 49er would be a great fit for him and SF, and having an experienced quarterback not named DW or BM might come in very handy for Cleveland.
Who knows what other deals are out there ????
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
The only thing going for Baker… he is the better arm talent.
Jimmy G is an improvement.
considering the media is going to suspend Watson for a year…brace yourself…I’d like a starting caliber QB with the talent we have
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So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.
Might need some negotiating by both parties to pull that off -but- it could be done.
I think Mayfield as a 49er would be a great fit for him and SF, and having an experienced quarterback not named DW or BM might come in very handy for Cleveland.
Who knows what other deals are out there ????
and having an experienced quarterback not named DW or BM might come in very handy for Cleveland.
The only way I see Garoppolo coming here is if we find out that Watson is suspended for the season, or at least most of the season. They didn't even want to pay Keenum's 6 mil for the backup QB spot. Remember, they've reworked the whole QB room to be Watson clones. JG doesn't seem to match their new tact. Having said that, if there's no Watson, then JG would be a better QB than our backups. He's a Baker level QB.
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