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  • Who in their right mind goes out and overpays for controversy and trouble.

    Haslam is an idiot and Dee is pegging Jimmah every night.

  • So, three days ago, we were at the supermarket, a couple was talking behind us. I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying, til the woman said "all these seasons....", and he says "I couldn't sell my hats for a nickle at our garage sale...".

    I turned and said "Browns?"

    they both nodded.

    She said "it's a disgrace. Never thought we would give up, but this is just...."...and he said "yep. just a disgrace."

    I nodded and said "yep, a lot of folks like us are disgusted....", paid for my stuff and said to them " Take care."

      It's bad, it's ....... the browns disgrace. They were taken for complete fools, and they jumped at the chance to be fools. Next year would have been a great time to draft a qb.

  • So, three days ago, we were at the supermarket, a couple was talking behind us. I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying, til the woman said "all these seasons....", and he says "I couldn't sell my hats for a nickle at our garage sale...".

    I turned and said "Browns?"

    they both nodded.

    She said "it's a disgrace. Never thought we would give up, but this is just...."...and he said "yep. just a disgrace."

    I nodded and said "yep, a lot of folks like us are disgusted....", paid for my stuff and said to them " Take care."

      It's bad, it's ....... the browns disgrace. They were taken for complete fools, and they jumped at the chance to be fools. Next year would have been a great time to draft a qb.

    @calfoxwc said:

    So, three days ago, we were at the supermarket, a couple was talking behind us. I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying, til the woman said "all these seasons....", and he says "I couldn't sell my hats for a nickle at our garage sale...".

    I turned and said "Browns?"

    they both nodded.

    She said "it's a disgrace. Never thought we would give up, but this is just...."...and he said "yep. just a disgrace."

    I nodded and said "yep, a lot of folks like us are disgusted....", paid for my stuff and said to them " Take care."

      It's bad, it's ....... the browns disgrace. They were taken for complete fools, and they jumped at the chance to be fools. Next year would have been a great time to draft a qb.

    Cal... I don't expect Athletes to be complete choir boys.. I mean hell.. I grew up in the street myself... I've done some stupid stuff in my youth... But this ass.. Has serious issues... He's a star athlete but he needs to set up broads for his massages and peepee tugs? ... It's ridiculous... This guy has born loser written all over him... Now the Browns due to their greed and stupidity will languish in the basement for another 20 plus years and who gets to suffer for it?.. You guessed it... Us fans... I have pretty much given up hope of ever seeing a championship in my lifetime with this stupid team... As far as I'm concerned... The Browns died when Modell moved the team.. This team is like a Woke ,Vegan facsimile of what it once was... A shitty knock off... I hope the Browns burn good for this... They deserve nothing less... or more for that matter...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Look up the word perseveration.

    But first, have cal tell us more stories of him hitting on older men at grocery stores and doctor offices by using the Browns as a conversation starter.

    Those stories are gold! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    But first, have cal tell us more stories of him hitting on older men at grocery stores and doctor offices by using the Browns as a conversation starter.

    Those stories are gold! 

    See cal's post above. You were right.?

  • the other one was in a parking lot, the guy was right next to my car when I parked, and he was wearing a Brownie hat.

    Sorry, I wish it had been at a hardware store, but I needed veggies for my vidalia onion relish. I made and canned 23 pints. It goes on hot dogs, subs, sandwiches.... it is superior to any I've ever bought in a store.

       I haven't met anyone talking about the browns while hiking in our woods or I would post that.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    So, three days ago, we were at the supermarket, a couple was talking behind us. I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying, til the woman said "all these seasons....", and he says "I couldn't sell my hats for a nickle at our garage sale...".

    I turned and said "Browns?"

    they both nodded.

    She said "it's a disgrace. Never thought we would give up, but this is just...."...and he said "yep. just a disgrace."

    I nodded and said "yep, a lot of folks like us are disgusted....", paid for my stuff and said to them " Take care."

      It's bad, it's ....... the browns disgrace. They were taken for complete fools, and they jumped at the chance to be fools. Next year would have been a great time to draft a qb.

    Cal... I don't expect Athletes to be complete choir boys.. I mean hell.. I grew up in the street myself... I've done some stupid stuff in my youth... But this ass.. Has serious issues... He's a star athlete but he needs to set up broads for his massages and peepee tugs? ... It's ridiculous... This guy has born loser written all over him... Now the Browns due to their greed and stupidity will languish in the basement for another 20 plus years and who gets to suffer for it?.. You guessed it... Us fans... I have pretty much given up hope of ever seeing a championship in my lifetime with this stupid team... As far as I'm concerned... The Browns died when Modell moved the team.. This team is like a Woke ,Vegan facsimile of what it once was... A shitty knock off... I hope the Browns burn good for this... They deserve nothing less... or more for that matter...

    @nickers said:

    . I grew up in the street myself... 

    So weird ,because that's EXACTLY what I thought to myself when I saw your Myspace profile pic there in the left corner.  From the mean streets.  The school of hard knocks, if you will. 

    Can't wait for Cals next story, when he overhears some village elder in a remote part of Siberia talking about the Browns after they're done with the tiger hunt and foraging. 

  • @nickers said:

    . I grew up in the street myself... 

    So weird ,because that's EXACTLY what I thought to myself when I saw your Myspace profile pic there in the left corner.  From the mean streets.  The school of hard knocks, if you will. 

    Can't wait for Cals next story, when he overhears some village elder in a remote part of Siberia talking about the Browns after they're done with the tiger hunt and foraging. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    So weird ,because that's EXACTLY what I thought to myself when I saw your Myspace profile pic there in the left corner.  From the mean streets.  The school of hard knocks, if you will. 

    Can't wait for Cals next story, when he overhears some village elder in a remote part of Siberia talking about the Browns after they're done with the tiger hunt and foraging. 

    That was not a "Myspace" pic... I havent used Myspace in almost 20 years... That was a cropped band photo I redid... Myspace fell by the wayside like Geoshitty did...

  • @nickers said:

    . I grew up in the street myself... 

    So weird ,because that's EXACTLY what I thought to myself when I saw your Myspace profile pic there in the left corner.  From the mean streets.  The school of hard knocks, if you will. 

    Can't wait for Cals next story, when he overhears some village elder in a remote part of Siberia talking about the Browns after they're done with the tiger hunt and foraging. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    So weird ,because that's EXACTLY what I thought to myself when I saw your Myspace profile pic there in the left corner.  From the mean streets.  The school of hard knocks, if you will. 

    Can't wait for Cals next story, when he overhears some village elder in a remote part of Siberia talking about the Browns after they're done with the tiger hunt and foraging. 

    no, that would be an invented story. i1.png

  • When I think of the Browns and Deshaun Watson.. I remember what my pop always said
    "Assholes will find each other"
  • And here's the ironic thing about all this:

    Andrew Berry had zero interest tying his future as the GM of the Browns to Baker Mayfield, and I totally understand this. Another mediocre season missing the playoffs with this loaded roster in 2022 could have resulted in Berry and Co. losing their jobs. It was obvious the Browns had no interest in signing Mayfield to an extenstion. 

    So he went out and upgraded the most important position, which is his job. The problem is, he upgraded the starting QB with a player so toxic, such a public relations nightmare that I think it could very well cost Andrew Berry his job. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So he went out and upgraded the most important position, which is his job. The problem is, he upgraded the starting QB with a player so toxic, such a public relations nightmare that I think it could very well cost Andrew Berry his job. 

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I don't think you need an Ivy League education to suspect something was up with Watson. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So he went out and upgraded the most important position, which is his job. The problem is, he upgraded the starting QB with a player so toxic, such a public relations nightmare that I think it could very well cost Andrew Berry his job. 

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I don't think you need an Ivy League education to suspect something was up with Watson. 

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I don't think you need an Ivy League education to suspect something was up with Watson. 

    I'm pretty sure Jimmy got it from his best advisor, the homeless guy that told him to draft JFF.?

  • the other one was in a parking lot, the guy was right next to my car when I parked, and he was wearing a Brownie hat.

    Sorry, I wish it had been at a hardware store, but I needed veggies for my vidalia onion relish. I made and canned 23 pints. It goes on hot dogs, subs, sandwiches.... it is superior to any I've ever bought in a store.

       I haven't met anyone talking about the browns while hiking in our woods or I would post that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    the other one was in a parking lot, the guy was right next to my car when I parked, and he was wearing a Brownie hat.

    Sorry, I wish it had been at a hardware store, but I needed veggies for my vidalia onion relish. I made and canned 23 pints. It goes on hot dogs, subs, sandwiches.... it is superior to any I've ever bought in a store.

       I haven't met anyone talking about the browns while hiking in our woods or I would post that.

    Wnen I go for fresh stuff at the Farmers Market every Tuesday morning, I'll look for Browns fans and get their opinions on the matter. More likely to just get their onions though. BTW one local farmer and his wife there have the best tomatoes we've gotten since living in N.C. 50+ years ago at a roadside stand. We've been eating 'em fresh every which way you can make 'em including just a plain old tomato sandwich with real thick slices. Yum!!

  • @orion said:

    In for a penny, in for a pound.  We have to play this out.  We cannot just throw in our cards and quit.  We are too heavily invested.  And I'm not talking about the money, I'm talking about all of the draft picks.  We aren't just gonna flush those down the toilet.  We have to play this out to a logical conclusion, whatever that may wind up being, and not knee jerk anything.  

    Look at it this way, It's just the 21st Century Browns being the 21st Century Browns.   

    (we were such a respected team in the 20th Century.  Thanks Art.  Thanks so much.  You peckahead!)

    Bullshit... This guy is a stupid asshole whose added another black eye to the franchise... This POS needs to be sent packing ... FAST!

    @nickers said:

    Bullshit...

    lol....but what do you 'really' think of my thoughts?  🙂

  • So get it over with…the media wants blood…suspend him for a year.

    some of you are ridiculous.…and way too self righteous. 
     

  • So get it over with…the media wants blood…suspend him for a year.

    some of you are ridiculous.…and way too self righteous. 
     

    @sdbacker80 said:

    So get it over with…the media wants blood…suspend him for a year.

    some of you are ridiculous.…and way too self righteous. 
     

    No one is being righteous about handies.  No one cares that athletes etc get those.  That's consenting adults.  It isn't pretentious to expect your personal space to respected and so on.  I have no doubt in my mind that if you took your care to a mechanic for repair, and you opened the hood to point out the problem, and then the mechanic, who gets off on dudes like you, bending over the engine of a car, rubs up against you with his full on chubb from behind.  Would anyone be too self righteous to claim that what the mechanic did was a violation of your rights/ your space....and then you find out he's been doing that to ever customer that shows up?  Now if you had called the mechanic up and said, lets do some gay role play...I'll drive my car up to your shop, and when I bend over and my ass is all up in the air, you walk up behind me and grind your bulge into my butt....thats consent between adults.  Do whatever you want.  That isn't what Watson did.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    So get it over with…the media wants blood…suspend him for a year.

    some of you are ridiculous.…and way too self righteous. 
     

    No one is being righteous about handies.  No one cares that athletes etc get those.  That's consenting adults.  It isn't pretentious to expect your personal space to respected and so on.  I have no doubt in my mind that if you took your care to a mechanic for repair, and you opened the hood to point out the problem, and then the mechanic, who gets off on dudes like you, bending over the engine of a car, rubs up against you with his full on chubb from behind.  Would anyone be too self righteous to claim that what the mechanic did was a violation of your rights/ your space....and then you find out he's been doing that to ever customer that shows up?  Now if you had called the mechanic up and said, lets do some gay role play...I'll drive my car up to your shop, and when I bend over and my ass is all up in the air, you walk up behind me and grind your bulge into my butt....thats consent between adults.  Do whatever you want.  That isn't what Watson did.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    The above was way too descriptive. Think you just re-earned your name here.?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So he went out and upgraded the most important position, which is his job. The problem is, he upgraded the starting QB with a player so toxic, such a public relations nightmare that I think it could very well cost Andrew Berry his job. 

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I don't think you need an Ivy League education to suspect something was up with Watson. 

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I'm certainly no expert of Watson's language in his contract... but He's hugely commitment'd come March of 2023

    "In this case, Next March 1st of 2023.. The Browns (Haslam) are going to have to deposit a number close to $170/$180M in what amounts to an escrow account, where the guaranteed money gets held that is owed to the player in the future," 

    “As it relates to Watson’s contract, it means that the Browns will be required, per a source with knowledge of the formula and policy, to place $169 million into escrow as of March 31, 2023. As the source explained it, the league takes a snapshot of all fully guaranteed salaries on January 31 of each year. Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract value. Also, each team has a $15 million annual allowance. Under the terms of Watson’s current deal, it works out to be a major chunk of cash that [Browns owner Jimmy Haslam] must set aside next year.

    The contract is fully guaranteed and includes a $44.965 million signing bonus, and includes a no-trade clause through the entire contract. 

    Is anybody certain of Watson's contract language up until March 1st of 2023? ?

    Happy FriDaY ! ? 

  • https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/mike-florio-jim-donovan-nfl-should-put-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-on-non-paid-leave/95-256e645f-8661-4bf1-af0b-f617fc880df8

    Interesting proposal straight-up trade for Sam Darnold. Everybody's off the hook. I would prefer a straight-up trade for Drew Locke but....

    Also how great would it be if the Houston Texans who facilitated this Behavior with the hotel room and the nondisclosure contracts were docked all of the first round draft picks they stole from us.

    WSS

  • @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in. 

    I'm certainly no expert of Watson's language in his contract... but He's hugely commitment'd come March of 2023

    "In this case, Next March 1st of 2023.. The Browns (Haslam) are going to have to deposit a number close to $170/$180M in what amounts to an escrow account, where the guaranteed money gets held that is owed to the player in the future," 

    “As it relates to Watson’s contract, it means that the Browns will be required, per a source with knowledge of the formula and policy, to place $169 million into escrow as of March 31, 2023. As the source explained it, the league takes a snapshot of all fully guaranteed salaries on January 31 of each year. Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract value. Also, each team has a $15 million annual allowance. Under the terms of Watson’s current deal, it works out to be a major chunk of cash that [Browns owner Jimmy Haslam] must set aside next year.

    The contract is fully guaranteed and includes a $44.965 million signing bonus, and includes a no-trade clause through the entire contract. 

    Is anybody certain of Watson's contract language up until March 1st of 2023? ?

    Happy FriDaY ! ? 

    @gumby73 said:

    I'm certainly no expert of Watson's language in his contract... but He's hugely commitment'd come March of 2023

    "In this case, Next March 1st of 2023.. The Browns (Haslam) are going to have to deposit a number close to $170/$180M in what amounts to an escrow account, where the guaranteed money gets held that is owed to the player in the future," 

    “As it relates to Watson’s contract, it means that the Browns will be required, per a source with knowledge of the formula and policy, to place $169 million into escrow as of March 31, 2023. As the source explained it, the league takes a snapshot of all fully guaranteed salaries on January 31 of each year. Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract value. Also, each team has a $15 million annual allowance. Under the terms of Watson’s current deal, it works out to be a major chunk of cash that [Browns owner Jimmy Haslam] must set aside next year.

    The contract is fully guaranteed and includes a $44.965 million signing bonus, and includes a no-trade clause through the entire contract. 

    Is anybody certain of Watson's contract language up until March 1st of 2023? ?

    Happy FriDaY ! ? 

    That may be where the BROWNS are right now having their lawyers trying to figure out if they can get out from under this dead elephant. 

    See:  Void or voidable contracts for a start.  And good luck with getting out of a contract it's not an easy thing to do.