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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    I don't have one   -but-   I would like one I guess.

    However I don't want another 18, 19 year old psyco who's having a bad day or hates his school or family to just get (or steal?) some cash and legally go into gun shop and buy an AR and a few boxes of ammo and go shoot up a school or grocery store or whatever.

    18-20  no AR style purchases or ammo at all. Period. NO.  

    Red flag laws YES.

    Background checks have become necessary whether we like ir or not.  YES.

    The bare minimum right now.

    I just hope that you have the guns and ammo you might need already in your gun safe.   😉

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      @calfoxwc said:

      Nice article. History says so.

      https://redstate.com/redstate-guest-editorial/2022/06/09/barsh-why-you-actually-do-need-an-ar-15-n575385

      You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

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      @texasag1969 said:

      You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

      I agree.  That's why I only shoot 5.56 NATO.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

        I agree.  That's why I only shoot 5.56 NATO.

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        @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

        I agree.  That's why I only shoot 5.56 NATO.

        So you were a scrounger, huh??

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          @calfoxwc said:

          Nice article. History says so.

          https://redstate.com/redstate-guest-editorial/2022/06/09/barsh-why-you-actually-do-need-an-ar-15-n575385

          You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

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          @texasag1969 said:

          You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

          I won't bother reading stuff Red State dredges up.  However, this deflection is similar to the video in the other thread... Yeah it (an AR-15)  just a "gun"...   That is, until it kills someone... Then it's a "murder weapon"...  🙁   

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            @texasag1969 said:

            You only "need" an AR-15 with .223 ammo if you can't shoot worth a shit. Another in a long line of articles that have to stretch to make a case. Doesn't work.

            I won't bother reading stuff Red State dredges up.  However, this deflection is similar to the video in the other thread... Yeah it (an AR-15)  just a "gun"...   That is, until it kills someone... Then it's a "murder weapon"...  🙁   

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            @hoorta said:

            I won't bother reading stuff Red State dredges up.  However, this deflection is similar to the video in the other thread... Yeah it (an AR-15)  just a "gun"...   That is, until it kills someone... Then it's a "murder weapon"...  🙁   

            Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

            Right?

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              I don't have one   -but-   I would like one I guess.

              However I don't want another 18, 19 year old psyco who's having a bad day or hates his school or family to just get (or steal?) some cash and legally go into gun shop and buy an AR and a few boxes of ammo and go shoot up a school or grocery store or whatever.

              18-20  no AR style purchases or ammo at all. Period. NO.  

              Red flag laws YES.

              Background checks have become necessary whether we like ir or not.  YES.

              The bare minimum right now.

              I just hope that you have the guns and ammo you might need already in your gun safe.   😉

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              @mjp28 said:

              I don't have one   -but-   I would like one I guess.

              However I don't want another 18, 19 year old psyco who's having a bad day or hates his school or family to just get (or steal?) some cash and legally go into gun shop and buy an AR and a few boxes of ammo and go shoot up a school or grocery store or whatever.

              18-20  no AR style purchases or ammo at all. Period. NO.  

              Red flag laws YES.

              Background checks have become necessary whether we like ir or not.  YES.

              The bare minimum right now.

              I just hope that you have the guns and ammo you might need already in your gun safe.   😉

              The AR-15 is just a rifle that is customizable. That is very cool. As far as 18 yr old not being allowed to buy one - I don't know what difference that would make - a violent kid can steal one, just buy one and go violent murder with it when he's 21....  It isn't the age. It doesn't address the cause of these sickening murders. Raise the age - ok, but it doesn't address what is going on with a few miswired kids.

              Red flag laws are an obvious choice - what the problem is - can the write the law, with the caveat that false claims will be seriously prosecuted. That should also be obvious. The left seems to want red flag laws to intimidate gun owners, like suing gun manufactureres for violent outbursts by murdered - it's bs, but intended to intimidate the gun industry. Red flag laws - with NO legal prosecution for frivolous lies - NO.

              Red flag laws - WITH serious legal consequences for anyone who tries to red flag someone for fraudulent ends? YES. The left though, has made laws a weapon - a camel nose under the tent. They hide the fact that they want the whole camel in the tent. Divorce? a fake red flag will probably happen. Religious disagreement in church ? possible. Resentment by siblings who get made about who is named exec of the estate? "red flag".... it will be a controversial farce.

              Red flag a kid in hs who wears an American Flag on it? It will surely happen. That is how dangerously corrupt the left is now.

              Which, the left will delight in.

              Another problem with Red Flag laws - because of the left - is an obamao/biden gov could "red flag" GROUPS of people.

              Like, all parents who protest cra at meetings. all veterans. all *conservative only* protesters. All those who believe the truth about there being only TWO GENDERS. All those who disagree with anything the left dishes out as a false narrative. etc.

              The trouble is, like with Obamao's directions to schools to protect kids in trouble - it has encouraged troubled kids to act out.

              We already HAVE background checks - anger issues, etc etc of kids in hs - need to be noted and communicated to authorities. No more coddling of violent kids, - but a school psychologist will surely be sued for any red flag notes eventually - by parents or the kids. It's a sue happy, "win lottery" subculture that is out there.

              Frivolous litigation MUST be stopped - but right now, it is sanctioned by the left in our gov.

              The ramos kid - they say he went very dark about two years ago. But it was never reported.

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                hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                Fix the family.

                Stop killing babies.

                Prayer in school.

                Let parents parent.

                Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.

                guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                  @hoorta said:

                  I won't bother reading stuff Red State dredges up.  However, this deflection is similar to the video in the other thread... Yeah it (an AR-15)  just a "gun"...   That is, until it kills someone... Then it's a "murder weapon"...  🙁   

                  Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

                  Right?

                  WSS 

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

                  Right?

                  WSS 

                  I have both. 

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                    Fix the family.

                    Stop killing babies.

                    Prayer in school.

                    Let parents parent.

                    Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.

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                    @hammertime said:

                    Fix the family.

                    Stop killing babies.

                    Prayer in school.

                    Let parents parent.

                    ★ ★ Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it. - and don't think about touching my guns, especially the ones that nobody  knows about. 

                    Society in general has turned to crap since the days we had that and starting the day with the Lord's Prayer and The Pledge of Allegiance every day.

                    And I went to a public school and got a very good education.

                    I still don't want an 18 year old snot nosed bad attitude kid walking into a gun store and getting an AR style semiautomatic rifle.

                    Magazines,  30 probably NO,  but in a pistol 10, 12, maybe 15 is OK with me but not this 5-6 stuff.

                    Addressing the many other problems in the USA cannot start soon enough.   It's a madhouse out there every night, the cops know most of  the bad apples but the how is the problem. 

                    Oh well, I have a loaded weapon 5' from me right now.......I'm fine with that. 

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

                      Right?

                      WSS 

                      I have both. 

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                      @browns149 said:

                      I have both. 

                      I've only got the Browning

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                        May be an image of 2 people and text that says '"Crazy thought, but those 20 million AR-15s now in this country could sure arm a lot of Ukrainians." -actor George Takei "Thanks for acknowledging the entire reason the 2nd amendment is so important, genius." -Sara Gonzales FOR BIECTIVE AND UNCENSORED ANALYSIS: PATRIOTPOST.US'

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                          @hoorta said:

                          I won't bother reading stuff Red State dredges up.  However, this deflection is similar to the video in the other thread... Yeah it (an AR-15)  just a "gun"...   That is, until it kills someone... Then it's a "murder weapon"...  🙁   

                          Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

                          Right?

                          WSS 

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.

                          Right?

                          WSS 

                          Wrong... 9mm muzzle velocity around 1,100fps.. That's the same as Cal's treasured- and total bullshit- comparison of .22LR (1070 fps) to .233 (3,100 fps). The scientists among us- as well as anyone who doesn't have their head up the NRA's ass... Knows this little formula.  F= M X A   Force equals mass times acceleration.    So allow me to educate you, as well as Cal- who thinks me and Tex are some rubes who are clueless over the matter...  .22LR bullets weigh about 40 grams.  .223 can go up to 85 grams.  So not only are .223 bullets 2X heavier, they're travelling 3X faster when they hit something.   F= M X A...  Ergo they have SIX times of the killing power when they hit something.  

                          BTW, Unless I'm wrong- Browning high powers aren't in production anymore...  I can only hope AR-15s have the same fate.  Shit, you want the ultimate close range weapon handgun?   US officers in WWII got equipped with .45 Colt ACP's.   You DON'T want to get hit by one of those hollow point slugs at close range.   

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                            Fix the family.

                            Stop killing babies.

                            Prayer in school.

                            Let parents parent.

                            Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.

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                            @hammertime said:

                            Fix the family.

                            Stop killing babies.

                            Prayer in school.

                            Let parents parent.

                            Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.

                            Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there.  Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it..  And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.    

                            Columbine

                            Sandy Hook 

                            Orlando

                            Las Vegas

                            Virginia Tech

                            Parkland

                            El Paso

                            Buffalo

                            Ulvalde

                            Did I miss a few?   Go hug your AR-15s....  BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age.  Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it.  But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though. 

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                              that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...

                              is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.

                              To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.

                              The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.

                              Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.

                              64 <> 18.

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                                that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...

                                is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.

                                To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.

                                The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.

                                Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.

                                64 <> 18.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...

                                is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.

                                To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.

                                The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.

                                Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.

                                64 <> 18.

                                Oh you want to bring up I'm drunk again? Bite me.  Guess what Cal... a .357 revolver is a "semi automatic"- shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger...  64 or 18.. tell that to the relatives of the folks who got killed.  Mike drop...   Bottom line- high capacity semi auto weapons... and in the Vegas shooting, a weapon for all intents and purposes- was full auto.  

                                What YOU are missing... Is the outliers are going to cost you gun nuts severely.  I already listed the mass shooting over the past 20 years or so....  Go hug your guns Cal...   

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                                  I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

                                  defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:

                                  https://redstate.com/carcand/2022/06/10/report-over-12-students-in-uvalde-were-alive-during-the-hour-before-police-entered-classroom-n577137

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                                    I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

                                    defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:

                                    https://redstate.com/carcand/2022/06/10/report-over-12-students-in-uvalde-were-alive-during-the-hour-before-police-entered-classroom-n577137

                                    Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

                                    defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:

                                    https://redstate.com/carcand/2022/06/10/report-over-12-students-in-uvalde-were-alive-during-the-hour-before-police-entered-classroom-n577137

                                    Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom

                                    FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.   

                                    But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify....  I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"...  In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's  currently 231 years old.  It may come as quite a shock to you Cal...  But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives)  came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye. 

                                    However... those stone tablets did say..  "Thou shalt not kill"...   (with semi automatic weapons)  and just to piss you off  "Thou shalt not commit adultery"...  Know anyone who fits that description?  😁    

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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

                                      defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:

                                      https://redstate.com/carcand/2022/06/10/report-over-12-students-in-uvalde-were-alive-during-the-hour-before-police-entered-classroom-n577137

                                      Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom

                                      FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.   

                                      But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify....  I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"...  In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's  currently 231 years old.  It may come as quite a shock to you Cal...  But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives)  came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye. 

                                      However... those stone tablets did say..  "Thou shalt not kill"...   (with semi automatic weapons)  and just to piss you off  "Thou shalt not commit adultery"...  Know anyone who fits that description?  😁    

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                      FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.   

                                      But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify....  I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"...  In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's  currently 231 years old.  It may come as quite a shock to you Cal...  But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives)  came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye. 

                                      However... those stone tablets did say..  "Thou shalt not kill"...   (with semi automatic weapons)  and just to piss you off  "Thou shalt not commit adultery"...  Know anyone who fits that description?  😁    

                                      1 correct. You never openly supported the BLM riots. The party you ushered into office however has been a lot softer and forgiving.

                                      2 as for the Bill of Rights let's just say that horse has left the barn long long ago. Decline of society or glorious shining path; you decide.

                                      3 I'm certainly not a Biblical scholar but I have heard that the original translation is Thou shalt not murder. And there's something in there about the person without sin casting the first stone. I would be surprised if any member of this board has only ever had sex with one woman and then only for reasons of procreation.

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                                        By the way yes Browning discontinued the high power, no idea why, but the most popular handguns in the world are 9mm, or similar caliber, semi-automatic. I think the number one manufacturer is Glock.

                                        I just mentioned the high power because that's the pistol I own.

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                                          @hammertime said:

                                          Fix the family.

                                          Stop killing babies.

                                          Prayer in school.

                                          Let parents parent.

                                          Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.

                                          Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there.  Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it..  And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.    

                                          Columbine

                                          Sandy Hook 

                                          Orlando

                                          Las Vegas

                                          Virginia Tech

                                          Parkland

                                          El Paso

                                          Buffalo

                                          Ulvalde

                                          Did I miss a few?   Go hug your AR-15s....  BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age.  Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it.  But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though. 

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                                          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          Did I miss a few?

                                          Now do Chicago, and while you’re at it tell me how many AR-15’s were used.

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