Why you NEED an AR-15
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Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.
Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
★ ★ Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it. - and don't think about touching my guns, especially the ones that nobody knows about.
Society in general has turned to crap since the days we had that and starting the day with the Lord's Prayer and The Pledge of Allegiance every day.
And I went to a public school and got a very good education.
I still don't want an 18 year old snot nosed bad attitude kid walking into a gun store and getting an AR style semiautomatic rifle.
Magazines, 30 probably NO, but in a pistol 10, 12, maybe 15 is OK with me but not this 5-6 stuff.
Addressing the many other problems in the USA cannot start soon enough. It's a madhouse out there every night, the cops know most of the bad apples but the how is the problem.
Oh well, I have a loaded weapon 5' from me right now.......I'm fine with that.
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Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.
Right?
WSS
I have both.
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Same as a Browning 9 mm high power.
Right?
WSS
Wrong... 9mm muzzle velocity around 1,100fps.. That's the same as Cal's treasured- and total bullshit- comparison of .22LR (1070 fps) to .233 (3,100 fps). The scientists among us- as well as anyone who doesn't have their head up the NRA's ass... Knows this little formula. F= M X A Force equals mass times acceleration. So allow me to educate you, as well as Cal- who thinks me and Tex are some rubes who are clueless over the matter... .22LR bullets weigh about 40 grams. .223 can go up to 85 grams. So not only are .223 bullets 2X heavier, they're travelling 3X faster when they hit something. F= M X A... Ergo they have SIX times of the killing power when they hit something.
BTW, Unless I'm wrong- Browning high powers aren't in production anymore... I can only hope AR-15s have the same fate. Shit, you want the ultimate close range weapon handgun? US officers in WWII got equipped with .45 Colt ACP's. You DON'T want to get hit by one of those hollow point slugs at close range.
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Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.
Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.
Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there. Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it.. And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.
Columbine
Sandy Hook
Orlando
Las Vegas
Virginia Tech
Parkland
El Paso
Buffalo
Ulvalde
Did I miss a few? Go hug your AR-15s.... BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age. Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it. But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though.
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that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...
is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.
To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.
The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.
Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.
64 <> 18.
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that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...
is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.
To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.
The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.
Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.
64 <> 18.
that is so stupid. I never once compared velocities - the POINT to anyone who isn't stoned or drunk...
is that the semi-automatic functionality is the same as the semi-auto functionality of an AR-15.
To complain about caliber.... is stupid. Not the point at all. Millions of 18 yr olds are perfectly safe to own an AR-15.
The percentage of them who are violent and emotionally misfired etc, are a tiny percentage.
Las Vegas was NOT an 18 yr old. That murderer was 64.
64 <> 18.
Oh you want to bring up I'm drunk again? Bite me. Guess what Cal... a .357 revolver is a "semi automatic"- shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger... 64 or 18.. tell that to the relatives of the folks who got killed. Mike drop... Bottom line- high capacity semi auto weapons... and in the Vegas shooting, a weapon for all intents and purposes- was full auto.
What YOU are missing... Is the outliers are going to cost you gun nuts severely. I already listed the mass shooting over the past 20 years or so.... Go hug your guns Cal...
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I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:
Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom
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I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:
Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom
I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:
Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom
FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.
But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify.... I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"... In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's currently 231 years old. It may come as quite a shock to you Cal... But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives) came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye.
However... those stone tablets did say.. "Thou shalt not kill"... (with semi automatic weapons) and just to piss you off "Thou shalt not commit adultery"... Know anyone who fits that description?
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I'll hug our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
defund the police? Yeah, this is what you all voted for:
Report: Over 12 Students in Uvalde Were Alive During the Hour Before Police Entered Classroom
FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.
But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify.... I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"... In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's currently 231 years old. It may come as quite a shock to you Cal... But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives) came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye.
However... those stone tablets did say.. "Thou shalt not kill"... (with semi automatic weapons) and just to piss you off "Thou shalt not commit adultery"... Know anyone who fits that description?
FWIW, I NEVER supported "defund the police" or the George Floyd riots so STFU about that.
But since you brought up our Bill of Rights", let me clarify.... I hate to break it to you, but when Moses came down from Mount Horeb with those stone tablets, they didn't include a codicil of the United States "Bill of Rights"... In fact- they only exist on a sheet of paper that's currently 231 years old. It may come as quite a shock to you Cal... But if enough of Americans (and their elected representatives) came to the opinion your "sacred" LOL 2nd amendment is outdated, it could in fact go bye-bye.
However... those stone tablets did say.. "Thou shalt not kill"... (with semi automatic weapons) and just to piss you off "Thou shalt not commit adultery"... Know anyone who fits that description?
1 correct. You never openly supported the BLM riots. The party you ushered into office however has been a lot softer and forgiving.
2 as for the Bill of Rights let's just say that horse has left the barn long long ago. Decline of society or glorious shining path; you decide.
3 I'm certainly not a Biblical scholar but I have heard that the original translation is Thou shalt not murder. And there's something in there about the person without sin casting the first stone. I would be surprised if any member of this board has only ever had sex with one woman and then only for reasons of procreation.
WSS
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By the way yes Browning discontinued the high power, no idea why, but the most popular handguns in the world are 9mm, or similar caliber, semi-automatic. I think the number one manufacturer is Glock.
I just mentioned the high power because that's the pistol I own.
WSS
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Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.
Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there. Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it.. And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.
Columbine
Sandy Hook
Orlando
Las Vegas
Virginia Tech
Parkland
El Paso
Buffalo
Ulvalde
Did I miss a few? Go hug your AR-15s.... BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age. Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it. But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though.
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Good morning everyone, it's beautiful outside, we're having our coffee and Cleveland plays at 4 pm today.
OK niceties aside this AR 15 thread is a good one as long as it doesn't quickly turn into a pissing contest.....OK we know who can piss highest, I think.
Quickly without looking it up one thing hit me on this list, 18-21 year olds and well armed, in some cases body armor and loaded with tons of ammo.
Columbine....young, well armed the model for all pissed off teenagers everywhere.
Sandy Hook....Young, definitely mentally ill, stole mommy's AK and butchered mommy and some children.....also a model for pissed off teenagers.
Orlando
Las Vegas....an old fart, well armed, even had hotel staff help carry his heavy loads of guns and ammunition to his room. Warning ! That will never happen again!!
Virginia Tech
Parkland....young, knows that the AK style is the most effective way to kill in big numbers, see above.
El Paso
Buffalo....young, see above
Ulvalde....young, see above
OK I just cheated and had to look up some facts the median age (½ more ½ less) of school shootings since Columbine is 16 ! This is through 2021 and 2022 has been a brutal year. Now include other shootings like the recent ones, soft targets like churches, stores and others and the numbers are off the charts.
One undeniable fact upset or mental teenagers with access to AK style firearms is a BAD idea. That is a good and easy place to start NO purchases below 21. Agreed ? The facts are undeniable. Read on :
The Washington Post has spent years tracking how many children have been exposed to gun violence during school hours since the Columbine High massacre in 1999.
Beyond the dead and wounded, children who witness the violence or cower behind locked doors to hide from it can be profoundly traumatized.
★ WHAT ! ---> The federal government does not track school shootings, so The Post pieced together its numbers from news articles, open-source databases, law enforcement reports and calls to schools and police departments.
While school shootings remain rare, there were more in 2021 — 42 — than in any year since at least 1999. So far this year, there have been at least 24 acts of gun violence on K-12 campuses during the school day.
The count now stands at more than 311,000 children at 331 schools.
★ The Post has found that at least 185 children, educators and other people have been killed in assaults, and another 369 have been injured.
The most recent school shooting was 18 days ago.
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Good morning everyone, it's beautiful outside, we're having our coffee and Cleveland plays at 4 pm today.
OK niceties aside this AR 15 thread is a good one as long as it doesn't quickly turn into a pissing contest.....OK we know who can piss highest, I think.
Quickly without looking it up one thing hit me on this list, 18-21 year olds and well armed, in some cases body armor and loaded with tons of ammo.
Columbine....young, well armed the model for all pissed off teenagers everywhere.
Sandy Hook....Young, definitely mentally ill, stole mommy's AK and butchered mommy and some children.....also a model for pissed off teenagers.
Orlando
Las Vegas....an old fart, well armed, even had hotel staff help carry his heavy loads of guns and ammunition to his room. Warning ! That will never happen again!!
Virginia Tech
Parkland....young, knows that the AK style is the most effective way to kill in big numbers, see above.
El Paso
Buffalo....young, see above
Ulvalde....young, see above
OK I just cheated and had to look up some facts the median age (½ more ½ less) of school shootings since Columbine is 16 ! This is through 2021 and 2022 has been a brutal year. Now include other shootings like the recent ones, soft targets like churches, stores and others and the numbers are off the charts.
One undeniable fact upset or mental teenagers with access to AK style firearms is a BAD idea. That is a good and easy place to start NO purchases below 21. Agreed ? The facts are undeniable. Read on :
The Washington Post has spent years tracking how many children have been exposed to gun violence during school hours since the Columbine High massacre in 1999.
Beyond the dead and wounded, children who witness the violence or cower behind locked doors to hide from it can be profoundly traumatized.
★ WHAT ! ---> The federal government does not track school shootings, so The Post pieced together its numbers from news articles, open-source databases, law enforcement reports and calls to schools and police departments.
While school shootings remain rare, there were more in 2021 — 42 — than in any year since at least 1999. So far this year, there have been at least 24 acts of gun violence on K-12 campuses during the school day.
The count now stands at more than 311,000 children at 331 schools.
★ The Post has found that at least 185 children, educators and other people have been killed in assaults, and another 369 have been injured.
The most recent school shooting was 18 days ago.
Good morning everyone, it's beautiful outside, we're having our coffee and Cleveland plays at 4 pm today.
OK niceties aside this AR 15 thread is a good one as long as it doesn't quickly turn into a pissing contest.....OK we know who can piss highest, I think.
Quickly without looking it up one thing hit me on this list, 18-21 year olds and well armed, in some cases body armor and loaded with tons of ammo.
Columbine....young, well armed the model for all pissed off teenagers everywhere.
Sandy Hook....Young, definitely mentally ill, stole mommy's AK and butchered children.....also a model for pissed off teenagers.
Orlando
Las Vegas....an old fart, well armed, even had hotel staff help carry his heavy loads of guns and ammunition to his room. Warning ! That will never happen again!!
Virginia Tech
Parkland....young, knows that the AK style is the most effective way to kill in big numbers, see above.
El Paso
Buffalo....young, see above
Ulvalde....young, see above
OK I just cheated and had to look up some facts the median age (½ more ½ less) of school shootings since Columbine is 16 ! This is through 2021 and 2022 has been a brutal year. Now include other shootings like the recent ones, soft targets like churches, stores and others and the numbers are off the charts.
One undeniable fact upset or mental teenagers with access to AK style firearms is a BAD idea. That is a good and easy place to start NO purchases below 21. Agreed ? The facts are undeniable. Read on :
The Washington Post has spent years tracking how many children have been exposed to gun violence during school hours since the Columbine High massacre in 1999.
Beyond the dead and wounded, children who witness the violence or cower behind locked doors to hide from it can be profoundly traumatized.
★ WHAT ! ---> The federal government does not track school shootings, so The Post pieced together its numbers from news articles, open-source databases, law enforcement reports and calls to schools and police departments.
While school shootings remain rare, there were more in 2021 — 42 — than in any year since at least 1999. So far this year, there have been at least 24 acts of gun violence on K-12 campuses during the school day.
The count now stands at more than 311,000 children at 331 schools.
★ The Post has found that at least 185 children, educators and other people have been killed in assaults, and another 369 have been injured.
The most recent school shooting was 18 days ago.
I know there's a point hidden in there somewhere.
One that comes to mind is that young people are f***** up.
WSS
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Good morning everyone, it's beautiful outside, we're having our coffee and Cleveland plays at 4 pm today.
OK niceties aside this AR 15 thread is a good one as long as it doesn't quickly turn into a pissing contest.....OK we know who can piss highest, I think.
Quickly without looking it up one thing hit me on this list, 18-21 year olds and well armed, in some cases body armor and loaded with tons of ammo.
Columbine....young, well armed the model for all pissed off teenagers everywhere.
Sandy Hook....Young, definitely mentally ill, stole mommy's AK and butchered children.....also a model for pissed off teenagers.
Orlando
Las Vegas....an old fart, well armed, even had hotel staff help carry his heavy loads of guns and ammunition to his room. Warning ! That will never happen again!!
Virginia Tech
Parkland....young, knows that the AK style is the most effective way to kill in big numbers, see above.
El Paso
Buffalo....young, see above
Ulvalde....young, see above
OK I just cheated and had to look up some facts the median age (½ more ½ less) of school shootings since Columbine is 16 ! This is through 2021 and 2022 has been a brutal year. Now include other shootings like the recent ones, soft targets like churches, stores and others and the numbers are off the charts.
One undeniable fact upset or mental teenagers with access to AK style firearms is a BAD idea. That is a good and easy place to start NO purchases below 21. Agreed ? The facts are undeniable. Read on :
The Washington Post has spent years tracking how many children have been exposed to gun violence during school hours since the Columbine High massacre in 1999.
Beyond the dead and wounded, children who witness the violence or cower behind locked doors to hide from it can be profoundly traumatized.
★ WHAT ! ---> The federal government does not track school shootings, so The Post pieced together its numbers from news articles, open-source databases, law enforcement reports and calls to schools and police departments.
While school shootings remain rare, there were more in 2021 — 42 — than in any year since at least 1999. So far this year, there have been at least 24 acts of gun violence on K-12 campuses during the school day.
The count now stands at more than 311,000 children at 331 schools.
★ The Post has found that at least 185 children, educators and other people have been killed in assaults, and another 369 have been injured.
The most recent school shooting was 18 days ago.
I know there's a point hidden in there somewhere.
One that comes to mind is that young people are f***** up.
WSS
I know there's a point hidden in there somewhere.
One that comes to mind is that young people are f***** up.
WSS
Well sorta, some, a very, very few number of young people are f******ed up. In fact most are like we were at that age....if that helps.
BUT the very, very few that are "challenged mentally " can walk into a gun store or gun show or something and plop down a few hundred bucks for an AK style amazing semiautomatic rifle some 30 round magazines and some great man killing ammunition and walk right out of the door.
Get online and say " watch me I'm gonna kill a bunch of kids or adults or Jews or whatever AND you can watch in real time."
NOTHING hidden just the facts, it's that easy to become the next mass killer. It's on the 6 pm news every night.
Oh what can we do ? Hide and cry ? No.
Step 1. Raise the minimum age to well you know, at least 21 for an AK style. It's that easy, period.
Step 2. Up for discussion.
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The thing about young people is that what's the age group that does the craziest s***. Hell I think of myself. When we reminisce about crazy stuff we did it was always in our teens or very early twenties. I think that's a great part of this problem.
WSS
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The thing about young people is that what's the age group that does the craziest s***. Hell I think of myself. When we reminisce about crazy stuff we did it was always in our teens or very early twenties. I think that's a great part of this problem.
WSS
The thing about young people is that what's the age group that does the craziest s***. Hell I think of myself. When we reminisce about crazy stuff we did it was always in our teens or very early twenties. I think that's a great part of this problem.
WSS
Oh yeah the 60s and even 70s were great ! (Oh I graduated high school and started college in 1968, MLK and Bobby K. assassinated, Vietnam was really getting ready to blow up. Wild times.)
BUT when we were 13-19 we weren't online every waking minute and brag or idolize people who wanted to go and shoot up their school or a church or anything.
We are in a violent world, why, well that is up for a lot of endless discussion but this toxic political climate is #1 on my list.
SO what can we do about it ? Start with small goals or objectives first.
Remember goals have to have 3 things to start they must be :
1. Measurable 2. Achievable 3. Realistic. (my years of management classes and experience here)
If they don't have all 3 you migh never complete them. The hardest thing today is just to get people to the table to discuss anything. Without that nothing will be done, in this case people will continue to be killed weekly, daily. Not a good thing for anyone.
Oh the above 3 things are a start, you still have to work on the details that requires cooperation and if necessary compromise. And everything requires leadership not the I'm right and you're wrong childish behavior.
And the 3 basics just sit and think about it, they do work.
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I still think 18 y.o. kids have no business with any guns at all. Can't drink a beer, but you can buy a rife (but not a handgun)? Something wrong there altogether.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/26/gun-buying-age-texas-handguns-rifles-uvalde/
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Fix the family.
Stop killing babies.
Prayer in school.
Let parents parent.
Taking away AR-15 style weapons doesn’t do crap and everyone knows it.
Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there. Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it.. And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.
Columbine
Sandy Hook
Orlando
Las Vegas
Virginia Tech
Parkland
El Paso
Buffalo
Ulvalde
Did I miss a few? Go hug your AR-15s.... BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age. Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it. But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though.
Just keep on praying harder hammer while absolutely nothing of significance gets done... because there's already too many guns out there. Defeatist attitude, or do you want to send sympathy cards to the surviving relatives instead? I doubt it.. And for the 10th time I'm anti abortion.
Columbine
Sandy Hook
Orlando
Las Vegas
Virginia Tech
Parkland
El Paso
Buffalo
Ulvalde
Did I miss a few? Go hug your AR-15s.... BTW, MHO is the Second amendment has been perverted beyond belief by the gun lobby... An 18 year old kid (who's not part of a "well regulated militia") with an agenda shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy a paramilitary rifle a few days after he turns that age. Don't give me any crap or whataboutism either.. We both know- Canada has FAR stricter gun laws, and our neighbors to the North aren't going to hell because of it. But they DO have far fewer gun homicides and mass shootings though.
You can mock me all you want.
I’m surprised your anti abortion but you should step back and look at the whole gun landscape. Taking weapons away from responsible people is not going to save kids.
The media has made a spectacle of these shootings for political reasons. You can’t save the whole world.guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do. -
I still think 18 y.o. kids have no business with any guns at all. Can't drink a beer, but you can buy a rife (but not a handgun)? Something wrong there altogether.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/26/gun-buying-age-texas-handguns-rifles-uvalde/
I still think 18 y.o. kids have no business with any guns at all. Can't drink a beer, but you can buy a rife (but not a handgun)? Something wrong there altogether.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/26/gun-buying-age-texas-handguns-rifles-uvalde/
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